Top 25 talk

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (So Far)

Still a few games left in this three-week stretch (including some still going on this evening), but it felt like time for an update. The full report will be posted Sunday night, as usual.

Also, note that I can include in the report any additional teams who might be worthy of consideration. If you have suggestions, post them here, or send me a PM.

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	625	Augustana	11-0	def. MacMurray, 86-62; won at Puget Sound, 73-49; won at Lewis and Clark, 83-50; won at George Fox, 76-58; def. (n) UW-Oshkosh, 67-65; def. (n) Edgewood, 79-44; 01/02 vs. Wheaton (Ill.)
#2	589	Whitworth	11-0	def. Millsaps, 86-47; def. Calvin, 68-65; won at Mary Hardin-Baylor, 68-58
#3	574	Amherst	8-0	01/02 vs. Rust (n); 01/03 at Rhodes
#4	513	Hope	10-1	def. Hanover, 85-81; def. Grace Bible, 98-83; def. (n) Messiah, 80-58; def. (n) Beloit, 86-66
#5	497	St. Thomas	7-1	won at #19 UW-Stevens Point, 56-38; 01/02 vs. Hamline
#6	464	Elmhurst	10-1	won at Buena Vista, 125-115; won at Concordia-Chicago, 99-52; 01/02 vs. T#33 Illinois Wesleyan
#7	448	Benedictine	11-0	def. T#46 Aurora, 90-62; won at Marian, 83-61; won at T#52 North Central (Ill.), 75-73; def. Carthage, 82-78; 01/02 at Concordia (Wis.)
#8	438	Marietta	10-2	def. Baldwin Wallace, 93-78; LOST at #10 John Carroll, 78-82; def. (n) Mount St. Joseph, 83-80; won at #38 Wooster, 72-57
#9	432	Ohio Wesleyan	10-1	def. Kenyon, 96-62; won at Transylvania, 96-72
#10	396	John Carroll	11-0	def. #8 Marietta, 82-78; def. (n) Brockport State, 115-94; def. (n) Bridgewater State, 89-68
#11	388	Christopher Newport	9-1	won at Pitt-Greensburg, 93-74; def. Shenandoah, 80-69; LOST to T#49 Scranton, 58-65; 01/02 vs. Southern Virginia
#12	279	New York University	6-0	def. Yeshiva, 66-57; 01/02 vs. Salve Regina (n); 01/03 vs. Emmanuel
#13	267	Franklin and Marshall	7-2	LOST at Carnegie Mellon, 54-74; 01/02 vs. Misericordia
#14	205	WPI	9-1	won at Bates, 58-51; 01/02 at T#43 Eastern Nazarene
#15	195	East Texas Baptist	8-2	def. (n) Southwestern, 70-60; LOST to (n) #25 Texas Lutheran, 54-69; 01/02 vs. Concordia (Texas)
#16	176	Mount Union	8-3	def. (n) Hood, 65-63; LOST to (n) Colby, 81-87
#17	148	Susquehanna	11-0	def. (n) Johns Hopkins, 72-64; won at Albright, 62-60; 01/02 vs. Moravian
#18	145	Virginia Wesleyan	6-4	LOST at Mary Washington, 67-68; def. Southern Virginia, 71-44; 01/02 vs. Emory
#19	132	UW-Stevens Point	6-4	LOST to #5 St. Thomas, 38-56; won at Edgewood, 82-66; def. (n) T#52 Keene State, 65-56; 12/30 vs. Hamilton (n)
#20	127	UW-Whitewater	9-2	def. Concordia-Chicago, 107-84; def. (n) Concordia (Texas), 108-90; def. (n) FDU-Florham, 84-73; won at Colorado College, 81-58
#21	118	Washington U.	8-3	won at Fontbonne, 74-69; def. (n) #32 Centre, 75-67; LOST at Wittenberg, 61-72
#22	100	Chicago	8-2	def. T#33 Illinois Wesleyan, 74-57; won at Albion, 69-65; 01/02 at Illinois Tech
#23	80	St. Norbert	9-2	def. Cornell, 79-46; def. Illinois College, 76-67; def. Anderson, 94-66; LOST to Alma, 65-82
#24	78	Babson	6-3	12/31 at Bates
#25	74	Texas Lutheran	8-3	LOST to (n) T#33 Illinois Wesleyan, 86-92; def. (n) Alma, 82-81; LOST at Texas-Tyler, 84-87; def. (n) #15 East Texas Baptist, 69-54; 01/02 vs. Southwestern

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	71	Brooklyn	9-2	01/03 vs. Staten Island
#27	62	Whitman	9-1	def. Millsaps, 95-52; def. Redlands, 118-72; LOST to (n) T#39 Tufts, 95-107; 12/30 vs. Geneva (n)
T#28	56	Salisbury	8-2	def. (n) Concordia (Wis.), 50-49; def. (n) #38 Wooster, 67-50; 01/02 vs. St. Mary's (Md.)
T#28	56	Oswego State	8-1	IDLE
#30	46	Trinity (Conn.)	6-3	def. Anna Maria, 87-58; 12/31 vs. Delaware Valley; 12/31 vs. Delaware Valley (n)
#31	43	Lancaster Bible	8-0	def. Mount Aloysius, 99-56
#32	32	Centre	8-3	won at Spalding, 46-43; LOST to (n) T#52 North Central (Ill.), 59-73; def. (n) Stevenson, 73-53; LOST to (n) #21 Washington U., 67-75; def. (n) Earlham, 55-54; 01/03 vs. Sewanee
T#33	29	Illinois Wesleyan	6-5	LOST at #22 Chicago, 57-74; def. (n) Southwestern, 85-77; def. (n) #25 Texas Lutheran, 92-86; LOST at Milwaukee Engineering, 69-89; 01/02 at #6 Elmhurst
T#33	29	Northwestern (Minn.)	10-1	won at UW-Stout, 66-63; 01/02 vs. North Central (Minn.)
T#33	29	Albertus Magnus	6-1	IDLE
#36	21	Pacific Lutheran	9-2	won at Mary Hardin-Baylor, 77-74; def. UW-Stout, 73-56
#37	16	Skidmore	5-3	LOST at Ramapo, 76-90; LOST to UW-Stout, 62-63; 01/02 vs. Bard; 01/03 vs. Hobart
#38	13	Wooster	6-4	def. (n) St. Mary's (Md.), 49-35; LOST to (n) T#28 Salisbury, 50-67; def. Pitt-Bradford, 79-59; LOST to #8 Marietta, 57-72; 01/03 vs. Denison
T#39	12	Tufts	7-2	def. (n) #27 Whitman, 107-95; 12/30 at Cal Lutheran
T#39	12	Bethel	7-1	01/02 vs. Macalester
T#39	12	Juniata	9-1	def. Pitt-Bradford, 63-51; 01/02 vs. Drew
#42	11	William Paterson	7-4	won at Rutgers-Camden, 73-57
T#43	10	St. John Fisher	6-3	def. Cazenovia, 94-63; def. RPI, 67-54
T#43	10	Stockton	8-2	def. (n) Gettysburg, 68-57; won at Hood, 73-64; 01/02 vs. Alvernia (n); 01/03 vs. TBA (n)
T#43	10	Eastern Nazarene	9-0	01/02 vs. #14 WPI
T#46	7	Roanoke	8-1	won at Frostburg State, 88-73; 01/02 vs. Kenyon
T#46	7	MIT	8-2	IDLE
T#46	7	Aurora	7-3	LOST at #7 Benedictine, 62-90; LOST to (n) Maryville (Tenn.), 94-103; won at Rhodes, 107-95; 01/02 at Wisconsin Lutheran
T#49	6	Scranton	8-2	def. (n) Stevenson, 81-67; won at #11 Christopher Newport, 65-58; 01/02 vs. Elizabethtown
T#49	6	St. Vincent	7-2	def. (n) Mary Hardin-Baylor, 91-85; def. Ramapo, 73-71; 12/30 at Calvin; 01/02 vs. Westminster (Pa.)
#51	5	New Jersey City	7-4	LOST to (n) Buffalo State, 116-119; LOST to (n) Western Connecticut, 65-84
T#52	4	Keene State	6-3	LOST to (n) #19 UW-Stevens Point, 56-65; LOST to (n) Loras, 102-112
T#52	4	North Central (Ill.)	7-4	def. Albion, 77-63; def. (n) Hartwick, 84-67; def. (n) #32 Centre, 73-59; LOST to #7 Benedictine, 73-75; won at Robert Morris-Chicago, 69-65; 01/02 vs. North Park
T#54	3	St. John's	8-1	01/02 vs. St. Mary's (Minn.)
T#54	3	Southern Vermont	8-2	won at Bates, 67-63
T#56	2	Catholic	8-3	def. Waynesburg, 71-42; def. Williams, 65-57; 01/02 at Merchant Marine
T#56	2	Eastern Connecticut	8-4	def. (n) Berry, 66-60; LOST to (n) LaGrange, 53-61
#58	1	Geneseo	6-1	IDLE

[David Collinge]

Wooster has two very long streaks active, 20-win seasons (19 years) and NCAA tournament appearances (13.) These streaks must be among the longest active streaks in D3, if not the longest, and may be among the longest all-time. (Might make for an interesting discussion.) At 6-4 with a conference season looming in a league that's not the pushover it once was, both of these streaks are in serious jeopardy.

[Bengalsrule]

From Darryl.....
How They Fared (So Far)

Still a few games left in this three-week stretch (including some still going on this evening), but it felt like time for an update. The full report will be posted Sunday night, as usual.

Also, note that I can include in the report any additional teams who might be worthy of consideration. If you have suggestions, post them here, or send me a PM.




Darryl,  I humbly offer The Buffalo State Bengals for consideration! Thier last 2 wins, this past week, were against......

1- Lehman College - 8-1 prior to meeting Buff State in the Championship game of the Coaches vs Cancer tourney, 12/30, at Lehman. (Lehman is the sole leader of CUNY @ 4-0). Lehman had previously defeated then #17 Brooklyn college on the same home court on 12/11. Bengals defeated Lehman 82-73, stopping Lehman's win streak at 8 games!!

2 -New Jersey City U - (Featured team in the 12/16 issue of D3hoops). Bengals defeated the Gothic Knights (sole leader of the NJAC @ 5-0)  in the 1st round of the Coaches Vs. Cancer tourney, on 12/29,  at Lehman college in double overtime (119-116). Bengals were down by 9 in the 1st overtime. Stopped NJCU win streak at 7!!

I should note that the Coaches vs. Cancer tourney had 4 teams with a combined 26-9 record (when the tourney began) . Lehman, NJCU and Western Conn are all currently in first  in their respective conferences, with both Lehman and NJCU being in sole possession of 1st place.

lastly...

The BENGALS sole loss, to a Div 3 team, was  to fellow SUNYAC foe Cortland (8-1), by 1 point ( a painful buzzer beating 3 ptr, in overtime  ). Buff State's only other loss was in their  season opener, vs NAIA-2 Point Park (8-5) by 2 points!

Go BENGALS!

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

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[sac]

Amherst lost to Rhodes 76-69

Rhodes lost to 5-6 MacMurray from the SLIAC.  Process that voters.

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Nearly Complete)

Three scores still pending -- I will edit in as they become available. All three of these games are (I believe) somewhere in the second half: Skidmore vs. Hobart, Wooster vs. Denison,  Stockton vs. Berkeley (N.Y.)

(In case I run late with the final updates, this at least gives Dave a nearly-complete set of results to report on Hoopsville.)

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	625	Augustana	12-0	def. MacMurray, 86-62; won at Puget Sound, 73-49; won at Lewis and Clark, 83-50; won at George Fox, 76-58; def. (n) UW-Oshkosh, 67-65; def. (n) Edgewood, 79-44; def. Wheaton (Ill.), 72-68
#2	589	Whitworth	11-0	def. Millsaps, 86-47; def. (n) Calvin, 68-65; def. (n) Mary Hardin-Baylor, 68-58
#3	574	Amherst	9-1	def. (n) Rust, 97-93; LOST at Rhodes, 69-76
#4	513	Hope	10-1	def. Hanover, 85-81; def. Grace Bible, 98-83; def. (n) Messiah, 80-58; def. (n) Beloit, 86-66
#5	497	St. Thomas	8-1	won at #19 UW-Stevens Point, 56-38; def. Hamline, 89-70
#6	464	Elmhurst	11-1	won at Buena Vista, 125-115; won at Concordia-Chicago, 99-52; def. T#33 Illinois Wesleyan, 78-64
#7	448	Benedictine	12-0	def. T#46 Aurora, 90-62; won at Marian, 83-61; won at T#52 North Central (Ill.), 75-73; def. Carthage, 82-78; won at Concordia (Wis.), 83-70
#8	438	Marietta	10-2	def. Baldwin Wallace, 93-78; LOST at #10 John Carroll, 78-82; def. (n) Mount St. Joseph, 83-80; won at #38 Wooster, 72-57
#9	432	Ohio Wesleyan	10-1	def. Kenyon, 96-62; won at Transylvania, 96-72
#10	396	John Carroll	11-0	def. #8 Marietta, 82-78; def. (n) Brockport State, 115-94; def. (n) Bridgewater State, 89-68
#11	388	Christopher Newport	10-1	won at Pitt-Greensburg, 93-74; def. Shenandoah, 80-69; LOST to T#49 Scranton, 58-65; def. Southern Virginia, 75-40
#12	279	New York University	8-0	def. Yeshiva, 66-57; def. (n) Salve Regina, 77-62; def. Emmanuel, 79-61
#13	267	Franklin and Marshall	8-2	LOST at Carnegie Mellon, 54-74; def. Misericordia, 81-76
#14	205	WPI	10-1	won at Bates, 58-51; won at T#43 Eastern Nazarene, 67-65
#15	195	East Texas Baptist	8-3	def. (n) Southwestern, 70-60; LOST to (n) #25 Texas Lutheran, 54-69; LOST to Concordia (Texas), 90-101
#16	176	Mount Union	8-3	def. (n) Hood, 65-63; LOST to (n) Colby, 81-87
#17	148	Susquehanna	12-0	def. (n) Johns Hopkins, 72-64; won at Albright, 62-60; def. Moravian, 89-64
#18	145	Virginia Wesleyan	7-4	LOST at Mary Washington, 67-68; def. Southern Virginia, 71-44; def. Emory, 71-68
#19	132	UW-Stevens Point	7-4	LOST to #5 St. Thomas, 38-56; won at Edgewood, 82-66; def. (n) T#52 Keene State, 65-56; def. (n) Hamilton, 61-43
#20	127	UW-Whitewater	9-2	def. Concordia-Chicago, 107-84; def. (n) Concordia (Texas), 108-90; def. (n) FDU-Florham, 84-73; won at Colorado College, 81-58
#21	118	Washington U.	8-3	won at Fontbonne, 74-69; def. (n) #32 Centre, 75-67; LOST at Wittenberg, 61-72
#22	100	Chicago	9-2	def. T#33 Illinois Wesleyan, 74-57; won at Albion, 69-65; won at Illinois Tech, 85-65
#23	80	St. Norbert	9-2	def. Cornell, 79-46; def. Illinois College, 76-67; def. Anderson, 94-66; LOST to Alma, 65-82
#24	78	Babson	6-4	LOST at Bates, 78-83
#25	74	Texas Lutheran	9-3	LOST to (n) T#33 Illinois Wesleyan, 86-92; def. (n) Alma, 82-81; LOST at Texas-Tyler, 84-87; def. (n) #15 East Texas Baptist, 69-54; def. Southwestern, 91-87

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	71	Brooklyn	10-2	def. Staten Island, 73-70
#27	62	Whitman	10-1	def. Millsaps, 95-52; def. Redlands, 118-72; LOST to (n) T#39 Tufts, 95-107; def. (n) Geneva, 103-81
T#28	56	Salisbury	8-3	def. (n) Concordia (Wis.), 50-49; def. (n) #38 Wooster, 67-50; LOST to St. Mary's (Md.), 67-70
T#28	56	Oswego State	8-1	IDLE
#30	46	Trinity (Conn.)	7-3	def. Anna Maria, 87-58; def. Delaware Valley, 78-64
#31	43	Lancaster Bible	8-0	def. Mount Aloysius, 99-56
#32	32	Centre	8-4	won at Spalding, 46-43; LOST to (n) T#52 North Central (Ill.), 59-73; def. (n) Stevenson, 73-53; LOST to (n) #21 Washington U., 67-75; def. (n) Earlham, 55-54; LOST to Sewanee, 54-58
T#33	29	Illinois Wesleyan	6-6	LOST at #22 Chicago, 57-74; def. (n) Southwestern, 85-77; def. (n) #25 Texas Lutheran, 92-86; LOST at Milwaukee Engineering, 69-89; LOST at #6 Elmhurst, 64-78
T#33	29	Northwestern (Minn.)	10-2	won at UW-Stout, 66-63; LOST to North Central (Minn.), 72-76
T#33	29	Albertus Magnus	6-1	IDLE
#36	21	Pacific Lutheran	9-2	won at Mary Hardin-Baylor, 77-74; def. UW-Stout, 73-56
#37	16	Skidmore	6-4	LOST at Ramapo, 76-90; LOST to UW-Stout, 62-63; LOST to Bard, 75-82; def. Hobart, 71-54
#38	13	Wooster	7-4	def. (n) St. Mary's (Md.), 49-35; LOST to (n) T#28 Salisbury, 50-67; def. Pitt-Bradford, 79-59; LOST to #8 Marietta, 57-72; def. Denison, 83-67
T#39	12	Tufts	8-2	def. (n) #27 Whitman, 107-95; won at Cal Lutheran, 85-78
T#39	12	Bethel	8-1	def. Macalester, 107-95
T#39	12	Juniata	9-2	def. Pitt-Bradford, 63-51; LOST to Drew, 71-78
#42	11	William Paterson	7-4	won at Rutgers-Camden, 73-57
T#43	10	St. John Fisher	6-3	def. Cazenovia, 94-63; def. RPI, 67-54
T#43	10	Stockton	9-3	def. (n) Gettysburg, 68-57; won at Hood, 73-64; def. (n) Alvernia, 62-56; LOST to (n) Berkeley (N.Y.), 76-83
T#43	10	Eastern Nazarene	9-1	LOST to #14 WPI, 65-67
T#46	7	Roanoke	10-1	won at Frostburg State, 88-73; def. Kenyon, 84-76; def. McDaniel, 90-84
T#46	7	MIT	8-2	IDLE
T#46	7	Aurora	8-3	LOST at #7 Benedictine, 62-90; LOST to (n) Maryville (Tenn.), 94-103; won at Rhodes, 107-95; won at Wisconsin Lutheran, 86-81
T#49	6	Scranton	9-2	def. (n) Stevenson, 81-67; won at #11 Christopher Newport, 65-58; def. Elizabethtown, 79-50
T#49	6	St. Vincent	8-3	def. (n) Mary Hardin-Baylor, 91-85; def. Ramapo, 73-71; LOST at Calvin, 66-77; def. Westminster (Pa.), 81-77
#51	5	New Jersey City	7-4	LOST to (n) Buffalo State, 116-119; LOST to (n) Western Connecticut, 65-84
T#52	4	Keene State	6-3	LOST to (n) #19 UW-Stevens Point, 56-65; LOST to (n) Loras, 102-112
T#52	4	North Central (Ill.)	8-4	def. Albion, 77-63; def. (n) Hartwick, 84-67; def. (n) #32 Centre, 73-59; LOST to #7 Benedictine, 73-75; won at Robert Morris-Chicago, 69-65; def. North Park, 76-64
T#54	3	St. John's	9-1	def. St. Mary's (Minn.), 81-68
T#54	3	Southern Vermont	8-2	won at Bates, 67-63
T#56	2	Catholic	8-4	def. Waynesburg, 71-42; def. Williams, 65-57; LOST at Merchant Marine, 84-87
T#56	2	Eastern Connecticut	8-4	def. (n) Berry, 66-60; LOST to (n) LaGrange, 53-61
#58	1	Geneseo	6-1	IDLE

Other teams to watch

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
---	---	Buffalo State	7-2	def. (n) #51 New Jersey City, 119-116; won at Lehman, 82-73

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Amherst lost to Rhodes 76-69

Rhodes lost to 5-6 MacMurray from the SLIAC.  Process that voters.

Please don't make me. LOL 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

New top 25 is out.

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week4

[sac]

Very Midwestern heavy at the top.  Are the top teams in the East just playing each other more and knocking each other off?  Or is it just very unsettled?

[Mr. Ypsi]

I didn't go thru every week's poll, but this may be the first week since D3hoops began their polls (1999-00) that IWU did not get a single vote in either the men's or women's poll.  This is the first year since the early 90s that BOTH teams are down the same season.  Pretty good run for the Titans.

We'll be back!!   (Though maybe not this season.)

[Mr. Ypsi]

I didn't go thru every week's poll, but this may be the first week since D3hoops began their polls (1999-00) that IWU did not get a single vote in either the men's or women's poll.  This is the first year since the early 90s that BOTH teams are down the same season.  Pretty good run for the Titans.

We'll be back!!   (Though maybe not this season.)

To correct myself: I'd forgotten 2001-02, when the men graduated most of a FF team, but the women had not yet begun their rise to national relevance.  I chose week 9 at random, and neither team had any votes (having already demolished my earlier post, I didn't check to see if either EVER got any votes that year ).

(I had previously only carefully checked 2006-07, when again the men had graduated most of a FF team, but the women HAD risen up by then.)

[ronk]

I didn't go thru every week's poll, but this may be the first week since D3hoops began their polls (1999-00) that IWU did not get a single vote in either the men's or women's poll.  This is the first year since the early 90s that BOTH teams are down the same season.  Pretty good run for the Titans.

We'll be back!!   (Though maybe not this season.)

To correct myself: I'd forgotten 2001-02, when the men graduated most of a FF team, but the women had not yet begun their rise to national relevance.  I chose week 9 at random, and neither team had any votes (having already demolished my earlier post, I didn't check to see if either EVER got any votes that year ).

(I had previously only carefully checked 2006-07, when again the men had graduated most of a FF team, but the women HAD risen up by then.)

What link did u use to check; I may do the same for Scranton.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Very Midwestern heavy at the top.  Are the top teams in the East just playing each other more and knocking each other off?  Or is it just very unsettled?

This year its a combination of unknown quantities and weak scheduling.  CNU and Susquehanna are playing well, but no one really trusts them yet.  WPI and Amherst maybe haven performed as well as expected against the schedule they've got.  F&M has essentially the same team from last year that people weren't too high on.  Just seems like luck of the draw so far.  I imagine Amherst losing the day before the poll didn't help them any.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I didn't go thru every week's poll, but this may be the first week since D3hoops began their polls (1999-00) that IWU did not get a single vote in either the men's or women's poll.  This is the first year since the early 90s that BOTH teams are down the same season.  Pretty good run for the Titans.

We'll be back!!   (Though maybe not this season.)

To correct myself: I'd forgotten 2001-02, when the men graduated most of a FF team, but the women had not yet begun their rise to national relevance.  I chose week 9 at random, and neither team had any votes (having already demolished my earlier post, I didn't check to see if either EVER got any votes that year ).

(I had previously only carefully checked 2006-07, when again the men had graduated most of a FF team, but the women HAD risen up by then.)

What link did u use to check; I may do the same for Scranton.

I just checked manually thru the 'previous years' on the Top 25 link from the front page.  Most years I was quite sure that one or the other (or both) would have gotten votes in every poll. 

[ronk]

I didn't go thru every week's poll, but this may be the first week since D3hoops began their polls (1999-00) that IWU did not get a single vote in either the men's or women's poll.  This is the first year since the early 90s that BOTH teams are down the same season.  Pretty good run for the Titans.

We'll be back!!   (Though maybe not this season.)

To correct myself: I'd forgotten 2001-02, when the men graduated most of a FF team, but the women had not yet begun their rise to national relevance.  I chose week 9 at random, and neither team had any votes (having already demolished my earlier post, I didn't check to see if either EVER got any votes that year ).

(I had previously only carefully checked 2006-07, when again the men had graduated most of a FF team, but the women HAD risen up by then.)

What link did u use to check; I may do the same for Scranton.

I just checked manually thru the 'previous years' on the Top 25 link from the front page.  Most years I was quite sure that one or the other (or both) would have gotten votes in every poll.

Thanks, I didn't know about those links. Only had to go back a few years to eliminate Scranton on the criteria.