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sac

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 23, 2016, 12:39:55 PM
Quote from: Darryl Nester on December 23, 2016, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: sac on December 23, 2016, 09:44:01 AM
Quote from: ElRetornodelEspencio on December 23, 2016, 09:39:30 AM
Quote from: sac on December 23, 2016, 09:34:39 AM
    Babson is at .664  Marietta is at .602   still not trash.

Outside the top 100 is crap when you're talking about top 25 consideration. If you're not in the top 100 schedule wise it's because you don't care because it's not really that hard to get there because, well, most programs in D3 don't really care that much.

Again, Babson's next win over a top 50 team will be their first. Hopefully the NCAA will take that into consideration as well, but it probably won't matter because their league is also weak so they'll probably get an automatic. So just like last year they'll go in with an inflated record and get beat by the first good team they run into, and everyone will talk about how unlucky they are and what a great season they had.

They're a 1 man team and an overrated one at that.

Nice side step of facts that don't meet your narrative.
Let Spencer have his say. It is Festivus, after all.

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Pat Coleman

Quote from: sac on December 23, 2016, 12:48:13 PM

I'm sure this looks like I did it, but I didn't.  I love Festivus

I can't imagine you smiting Daryl! No, not what I was picturing.
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nescac1

I hope for only one thing: that Babson plays Marietta in the NCAA tourney, and that Flannery doesn't have to play through a severe injury like in last year'a tourney (which actually kept him out of the prior game entirely).  Then I guarantee we will hear about another dozen excuses (the lighting!  The refs!  Food poisoning!) for why Flannery was able to put up 40 on Marietta.  Has Marietta ever in its history lost a game in which they were simply the worse team?   It seems the answer is no.  How they don't have three titles by now I'll never understand.  Must be the lighting is off in Salem. 


nescac1

Wesleyan outscored Marietta 48 to 20 in the paint.  Joseph Kuo, probably only the fourth best center in NESCAC, owned the paint on both ends in that game. 

smedindy

Quote from: nescac1 on December 23, 2016, 01:05:35 PM
I hope for only one thing: that Babson plays Marietta in the NCAA tourney, and that Flannery doesn't have to play through a severe injury like in last year'a tourney (which actually kept him out of the prior game entirely).  Then I guarantee we will hear about another dozen excuses (the lighting!  The refs!  Food poisoning!) for why Flannery was able to put up 40 on Marietta.  Has Marietta ever in its history lost a game in which they were simply the worse team?   It seems the answer is no.  How they don't have three titles by now I'll never understand.  Must be the lighting is off in Salem.

Does anything before 2011 count? They were...not good.
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Pat Coleman

The thing about Babson being a one-man team -- whether you believe that's true or not -- is kind of irrelevant. You can win as a one-man team in basketball, so much more than in any other sport. We only play five-on-five. One great player is a huge deal.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

ElRetornodelEspencio

Quote from: smedindy on December 23, 2016, 01:14:31 PM
Quote from: nescac1 on December 23, 2016, 01:05:35 PM
I hope for only one thing: that Babson plays Marietta in the NCAA tourney, and that Flannery doesn't have to play through a severe injury like in last year'a tourney (which actually kept him out of the prior game entirely).  Then I guarantee we will hear about another dozen excuses (the lighting!  The refs!  Food poisoning!) for why Flannery was able to put up 40 on Marietta.  Has Marietta ever in its history lost a game in which they were simply the worse team?   It seems the answer is no.  How they don't have three titles by now I'll never understand.  Must be the lighting is off in Salem.

Does anything before 2011 count? They were...not good.

Couple years before that, but yeah no kidding.

Has MC ever lost a game where it was the worst team? Hundreds of times. They had one season where they ran probably the worst version of the Grinnell system that has ever been run. And because of that stupid season, the record books are completely whacked. Had a few pretty good teams in the 90s, and one great great player (I'm very confident he could have played overseas if he wanted) that didn't get his due because for some reason he played at Marietta during that time, but yeah, not a lot.

The combination of Vander Wal and the Ban Johnson Arena renovation has transformed the program into something I never thought possible, to be honest.

PeterEscobar

Quote from: nescac1 on December 23, 2016, 01:05:35 PM
I hope for only one thing: that Babson plays Marietta in the NCAA tourney, and that Flannery doesn't have to play through a severe injury like in last year'a tourney (which actually kept him out of the prior game entirely).  Then I guarantee we will hear about another dozen excuses (the lighting!  The refs!  Food poisoning!) for why Flannery was able to put up 40 on Marietta.  Has Marietta ever in its history lost a game in which they were simply the worse team?   It seems the answer is no.  How they don't have three titles by now I'll never understand.  Must be the lighting is off in Salem.
Don't mind the fact he didn't practice before the Tufts or the Amherst game because of a foot injury and then went out and dropped 40+ points on both or the fact that he was universally selected as national player of the year last year, he obviously stinks and is overrated  ::)

PeterEscobar

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 23, 2016, 01:16:51 PM
The thing about Babson being a one-man team -- whether you believe that's true or not -- is kind of irrelevant. You can win as a one-man team in basketball, so much more than in any other sport. We only play five-on-five. One great player is a huge deal.
Especially when you surround that one player with two guards who shoot over 50% from 3; a NE-10 transfer who has shot over 60% from the field since arriving at Babson; a forward who had eight Division II offers out of Gonzaga College HS (one of the best HS leagues in the nation) who wanted a chance at a national title...  ::)

ElRetornodelEspencio

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 23, 2016, 01:16:51 PM
The thing about Babson being a one-man team -- whether you believe that's true or not -- is kind of irrelevant. You can win as a one-man team in basketball, so much more than in any other sport. We only play five-on-five. One great player is a huge deal.

Well was more referencing the legend of Bill Brasky Flannery at that point, but really how many great teams in D3 have been one-man bands like that? Where even if your supposed best player is shooting blanks you just let him keep shooting because you really don't have other choices?

ElRetornodelEspencio

Quote from: PeterEscobar on December 23, 2016, 01:37:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 23, 2016, 01:16:51 PM
The thing about Babson being a one-man team -- whether you believe that's true or not -- is kind of irrelevant. You can win as a one-man team in basketball, so much more than in any other sport. We only play five-on-five. One great player is a huge deal.
Especially when you surround that one player with two guards who shoot over 50% from 3; a NE-10 transfer who has shot over 60% from the field since arriving at Babson; a forward who had eight Division II offers out of Gonzaga College HS (one of the best HS leagues in the nation) who wanted a chance at a national title...  ::)

Yet they need one guy to take a significant plurality if not majority of their shots in a game against a quality opponent.

PeterEscobar

Quote from: ElRetornodelEspencio on December 23, 2016, 01:32:01 PM
The combination of Vander Wal and the Ban Johnson Arena renovation has transformed the program into something I never thought possible, to be honest.
A team that lost in the first round on their home floor last year? Did they have a lighting issue that night too?

PeterEscobar

Quote from: ElRetornodelEspencio on December 23, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
Quote from: PeterEscobar on December 23, 2016, 01:37:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 23, 2016, 01:16:51 PM
The thing about Babson being a one-man team -- whether you believe that's true or not -- is kind of irrelevant. You can win as a one-man team in basketball, so much more than in any other sport. We only play five-on-five. One great player is a huge deal.
Especially when you surround that one player with two guards who shoot over 50% from 3; a NE-10 transfer who has shot over 60% from the field since arriving at Babson; a forward who had eight Division II offers out of Gonzaga College HS (one of the best HS leagues in the nation) who wanted a chance at a national title...  ::)

Yet they need one guy to take a significant plurality if not majority of their shots in a game against a quality opponent.
Ask VanderWal if he would want Flannery on his team and if he would let Flannery take big shots in big games  ::)

ElRetornodelEspencio

Quote from: PeterEscobar on December 23, 2016, 01:35:29 PM
Quote from: nescac1 on December 23, 2016, 01:05:35 PM
I hope for only one thing: that Babson plays Marietta in the NCAA tourney, and that Flannery doesn't have to play through a severe injury like in last year'a tourney (which actually kept him out of the prior game entirely).  Then I guarantee we will hear about another dozen excuses (the lighting!  The refs!  Food poisoning!) for why Flannery was able to put up 40 on Marietta.  Has Marietta ever in its history lost a game in which they were simply the worse team?   It seems the answer is no.  How they don't have three titles by now I'll never understand.  Must be the lighting is off in Salem.
Don't mind the fact he didn't practice before the Tufts or the Amherst game because of a foot injury and then went out and dropped 40+ points on both or the fact that he was universally selected as national player of the year last year, he obviously stinks and is overrated  ::)

If you don't mind a guy shooting 35% to get his points, he's your guy.

Let me know when they beat a Massey top 50 opponent.

ElRetornodelEspencio

Quote from: PeterEscobar on December 23, 2016, 01:41:52 PM
Quote from: ElRetornodelEspencio on December 23, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
Quote from: PeterEscobar on December 23, 2016, 01:37:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 23, 2016, 01:16:51 PM
The thing about Babson being a one-man team -- whether you believe that's true or not -- is kind of irrelevant. You can win as a one-man team in basketball, so much more than in any other sport. We only play five-on-five. One great player is a huge deal.
Especially when you surround that one player with two guards who shoot over 50% from 3; a NE-10 transfer who has shot over 60% from the field since arriving at Babson; a forward who had eight Division II offers out of Gonzaga College HS (one of the best HS leagues in the nation) who wanted a chance at a national title...  ::)

Yet they need one guy to take a significant plurality if not majority of their shots in a game against a quality opponent.
Ask VanderWal if he would want Flannery on his team and if he would let Flannery take big shots in big games  ::)

I'd just take Raneal Ewing back if we're making theoretical additions.