Top 25 talk

[augie]

That is true what pat said a gym 45 minutes outside the city.I remember the first tournament I went to in Vegas it was held at UNLV practice facility which wasn't bad.But nothing beats Southpoint everything you need is there.20 minutes outside the strip so actually it is convenient for teams and family and fans.

[sac]

Williams 91 #15 Hope 85 OT

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Middlebury beat IWU by 2 in New York.

[Fifth and Putnam]

So, how about the NESCAC this year? 

[Mr. Ypsi]

So, how about the NESCAC this year? 

Not TOO shabby - 3 teams currently in the top 25 (none of whom lost since the last poll), Williams a near lock to make it into the next poll, and Middlebury a definite possibility (though they only had 9 points in the last one, and IWU was their first 'defining' win).  That's 4 (conceivably 5) teams in, and Conn Col. still only has one loss (though no signature wins).  I'd say they are definitely in the top half of conferences!

[sac]

So, how about the NESCAC this year? 

Geez I wish they played a round-robin

[Pat Coleman]

Good enough for the NCAA is sometimes not that high a bar.

But whatever. if the coaches are getting what they want then there's no reason to change. I guess ones that want that kind of experience can go there and the ones that want something else can go to Great Lakes or the Hoopville, or a traditional campus tournament like Mose Hole or something.

There's room for all sorts of these events. Orlando, Las Vegas, Owings Mills, etc.

[Pat Coleman]

So, how about the NESCAC this year? 

Geez I wish they played a round-robin

They do. You really want them to play two.

[Gregory Sager]

So, how about the NESCAC this year? 

Geez I wish they played a round-robin

I would like to see the NCAA institute a rule that would require leagues to hold double round-robins in basketball in order to receive an automatic bid. But that's wishful thinking, as the NCAA is typically pretty hands-off in terms of how leagues go about their business of scheduling.

Meanwhile, the NESCAC is the glaring exception in D3 by being the only league to have merely a single round-robin.

[nescac1]

NESCAC plays a single round robin?  Wow, I had no idea. 

[Gregory Sager]

LOL!

[Gregory Sager]

UWSP nips #20 North Central, 65-63, in central Wisconsin on a pair of Ethan Bublitz free throws with two seconds remaining.

[Mr. Ypsi]

NESCAC plays a single round robin?  Wow, I had no idea.

Everyone who follows the national D3 scene respects NESCAC.  Everyone who follows the national D3 scene is also pissed off that A) NESCAC is the only conference that doesn't cannibalize itself with a double round-robin and B) mostly mediocre (to flat-out bad) D3 conferences are so thick on the ground in New England that NESCAC can cherry-pick weak teams who will have good records to achieve phenomenal SOS without even touching their multi-billion$ endowments.   Oh, and C) they always seem to have the easiest road to Salem.

Did I forget any of the standard complaints?   But I would really love to see Amherst, Williams, or whomever, play a couple of conference seasons in the CCIW or WIAC!   They MIGHT show how good they are, or it might get brutal!

[Gregory Sager]

NESCAC plays a single round robin?  Wow, I had no idea.

Everyone who follows the national D3 scene respects NESCAC.  Everyone who follows the national D3 scene is also pissed off that A) NESCAC is the only conference that doesn't cannibalize itself with a double round-robin and B) mostly mediocre (to flat-out bad) D3 conferences are so thick on the ground in New England that NESCAC can cherry-pick weak teams who will have good records to achieve phenomenal SOS without even touching their multi-billion$ endowments.   Oh, and C) they always seem to have the easiest road to Salem.

Did I forget any of the standard complaints?   But I would really love to see Amherst, Williams, or whomever, play a couple of conference seasons in the CCIW or WIAC!   They MIGHT show how good they are, or it might get brutal!

There's no need to explain this to nescac1, Chuck. He's had this argument thrown his way eight thousand times over the years on d3boards.com. Let's face it -- we all have our opinions on this issue, but at this point it's about as tired a rehash as the ol' the-WIAC-should-leave-D3-and-join-D2 argument.

[nescac1]

Tell you what: considering that Williams has lost three titles games to WIAC teams, two on the final possession, I'll happily endorse a double round robin for NESCAC in exchange for WIAC's departure!