Top 25 talk

[Knightstalker]

I took a stab at the Atlantic Region.  I used the criteria Titan Q specified and listed what I feel were the three best wins for each team.  I added up the rankings and divided by three if listed in the D3 poll or 2 if only listed in Massey and KS polls.  I am not a numbers person and this was the best I could come up with.

1.   Gwynedd Mercy  (13-2, 8-1 CSAC)  vs Cabrini
2.   Ramapo              (14-4, 10-1 NJAC) vs NJCU
3.   Cabrini                (14-2, 8-1 CSAC)  vs Eastern CT
4.   NJCU                   (14-3, 8-2 NJAC)
5.   Nuemann            (12-4, 7-3 CSAC)
6.   TCNJ                   (14-3, 9-1 NJAC)    vs Ramapo
7.   DeSales              (13-4, 4-2 MACF)
8.   Montclair             (13-5, 9-4 NJAC)    at Eastern CT, at NJCU
9.   Lehman              (13-4, 8-1 CUNYAC)
10. Stockton             (11-7, 5-6 NJAC)

Edited the best wins as Titan Q requested and added in records.  I was originally going to only rank 8 teams as that is what the Atlantic gets in the regional rankings but decided to stretch it out to ten.

I believe hat Montclair lost to Eastern CT

You are correct, I got cross eyed on that one, I looked at Eastern CT and my eyes drifted to the Kean results right above it.

[Pat Coleman]

Thanks for all the -k's, easily offended people.

I've deleted most of my posts and am washing my hands of this pointless exercise. Do your worst.

Titan gives himself away when he said he's not interested in clusters. He's interested in an inaccurate, subjective heuristic that confirms human biases.

Whatever, I'm out.

Why do you keep coming back if you are only going to leave again?

[Greek Tragedy]

Shouldn't this be in the Pool C thread?

This is not about Pool C.  It's about how teams stack up for Top 25 rankings.

OK, just kind of looked like Regional Rankings to me! 

[Fifth and Putnam]

Taking a stab at the GL this morning...using resumes and what I've seen from these teams with my eyes.

Fifth and Putnam's Great Lakes Region
1. Wittenberg (17-0, 10-0 NCAC) - vs Marietta, vs Ohio Wesleyan, at Wooster
2. Baldwin Wallace (14-3, 8-2 OAC) - at UW-River Falls, at Marietta, vs. John Carroll
3. John Carroll (14-3, 8-2 OAC) - @ Marietta, vs. Marietta, vs. Ohio Northern
4. Marietta (13-4, 7-3 OAC) - vs. Ohio Northern, vs. Hanover
5. Ohio Northern (12-5, 7-3 OAC) - @ Baldwin Wallace, vs. Keene State
6. Wooster (13-4, 7-3 NCAC) vs. Emory and Henry, at Ohio Wesleyan, vs. Hanover
7. Ohio Wesleyan (12-5, 7-3 NCAC) vs. Ramapo
8. Mount St. Joseph (12-5, 9-1 HCAC) - vs Wash U.
9. Hope (10-7, 4-2 MIAA) - vs. John Carroll
10. Transylvania (13-4, 8-2 HCAC) - vs. Hanover

It's probably not perfect and I can see where people will probably say Team A should be here over Team B, or Team C should not be here at all. It is what it is.

[Onward on, John Carroll]

Taking a stab at the GL this morning...using resumes and what I've seen from these teams with my eyes.

Fifth and Putnam's Great Lakes Region
1. Wittenberg (17-0, 10-0 NCAC) - vs Marietta, vs Ohio Wesleyan, at Wooster
2. Baldwin Wallace (14-3, 8-2 OAC) - at UW-River Falls, at Marietta, vs. John Carroll
3. John Carroll (14-3, 8-2 OAC) - @ Marietta, vs. Marietta, vs. Ohio Northern
4. Marietta (13-4, 7-3 OAC) - vs. Ohio Northern, vs. Hanover
5. Ohio Northern (12-5, 7-3 OAC) - @ Baldwin Wallace, vs. Keene State
6. Wooster (13-4, 7-3 NCAC) vs. Emory and Henry, at Ohio Wesleyan, vs. Hanover
7. Ohio Wesleyan (12-5, 7-3 NCAC) vs. Ramapo
8. Mount St. Joseph (12-5, 9-1 HCAC) - vs Wash U.
9. Hope (10-7, 4-2 MIAA) - vs. John Carroll
10. Transylvania (13-4, 8-2 HCAC) - vs. Hanover

It's probably not perfect and I can see where people will probably say Team A should be here over Team B, or Team C should not be here at all. It is what it is.

You are right, you could quibble about this team or that team being ranked a slot or two too high or too low but I think you have a solid  group of teams there, F&P.  I think the OAC could get 3 in again this year if things fall right and all of these teams -- BW, JCU, Etta and ONU -- avoid the upset bug to the other 6 teams in the league (JCU already dropped one to Mount) and keep each other in the regional rankings.  Of course, they could each get upset and, with losses to each other, lose 3 more games each and find themselves in a situation where it is an OAC Tourney Title-or-Die situation.

[Titan Q]

Smitty Oom's West Region
1. Whitman Blues (17-0, 8-0 NWC) - vs. Occidental, vs. UW-Stevens Point (Las Vegas), vs. Ohio Wesleyan (Las Vegas), vs. Whitworth
2. St. John's Johnnies (14-1, 10-0 MIAC) - vs. Bethel, at Augsburg
3. Whitworth Pirates (15-2, 7-1 NWC) - vs. North Central
4. Nebraska Wesleyan Prairie Wolves (16-2, 7-2 IIAC) - vs. Wartburg
5. Loras Duhawks (14-4, 7-2 IIAC) - vs. Nebraska Wesleyan, at Buena Vista
6. Augsburg Auggies (13-4, 8-4 MIAC) - vs. Loras, vs. Wartburg (Las vegas), at Bethel
7. Bethel Royals (12-4, 7-4 MIAC) - at Augsburg
8. Buena Vista Beavers (14-4, 7-2 IIAC) - at Nebraska Wesleyan
9. Wartburg Knights (12-5, 5-3 IIAC) - vs. Loras, vs. UW-Stevens Point (Las Vegas), vs. Buena Vista
10. Occidental Tigers (14-2, 7-0 SCIAC) -

Titan Q's Central Region
1. Wash U (14-2, 5-0 UAA) - vs Tufts, vs Ohio Northern, at Illinois Wesleyan
2. Illinois Wesleyan (14-3, 7-1 CCIW) - at North Central, at Wheaton, vs Augustana
3. Augustana (14-3, 6-2 CCIW) - vs North Central, vs UW-Stevens Point (neutral), at Wash U
4. UW-Stevens Point (12-5, 6-0 WIAC) - at Buena Vista, at UW-River Falls, at UW-Whitewater, vs UW-Platteville
5. Wheaton (13-4, 6-2 CCIW) - vs Baldwin Wallace, at Whitworth, at Augustana
6. UW-River Falls (12-4, 3-3 WIAC) - at UW-Whitewater, vs UW-Platteville
7. UW-Whitewater (14-3, 4-2 WIAC) at UW-Oshkosh
8. UW-Oshkosh (13-4, 3-3 WIAC) - vs Augustana, vs UW-River Falls
9. UW-Platteville (14-3, 4-2 WIAC) - vs UW-Oshkosh
10. North Central (12-5, 5-3 CCIW) - vs Wheaton

Ronk's Mid-Atlantic Region
1. York(PA) (16-1, 9-1 CAC)  Swarthmore, Middlebury(N), CNU, split with the holder of The Belt(UMW)
2. Swarthmore (15-2, 9-1  CC) @ Middlebury
3. F&M (14-3, 8-2 CC) Swarthmore
4. Lycoming (17-1, 8-1 MACC)
5. Johns Hopkins (13-4, 7-3 CC) New Jersey City(N)
6. Drew (13-4, 6-0 LAND) Juniata
7. Juniata (14-3, 3-3 LAND)
The current holder of The Belt
8. Mary Washington (12-5, 6-4 CAC) York(PA) 

Knightstalker's Atlantic Region
1.   Gwynedd Mercy  (13-2, 8-1 CSAC)  vs Cabrini
2.   Ramapo              (14-4, 10-1 NJAC) vs NJCU
3.   Cabrini                (14-2, 8-1 CSAC)  vs Eastern CT
4.   NJCU                   (14-3, 8-2 NJAC)
5.   Nuemann            (12-4, 7-3 CSAC)
6.   TCNJ                   (14-3, 9-1 NJAC)    vs Ramapo
7.   DeSales              (13-4, 4-2 MACF)
8.   Montclair             (13-5, 9-4 NJAC)   
9.   Lehman              (13-4, 8-1 CUNYAC)
10. Stockton             (11-7, 5-6 NJAC)

Fifth and Putnam's Great Lakes Region
1. Wittenberg (17-0, 10-0 NCAC) - vs Marietta, vs Ohio Wesleyan, at Wooster
2. Baldwin Wallace (14-3, 8-2 OAC) - at UW-River Falls, at Marietta, vs. John Carroll
3. John Carroll (14-3, 8-2 OAC) - @ Marietta, vs. Marietta, vs. Ohio Northern
4. Marietta (13-4, 7-3 OAC) - vs. Ohio Northern, vs. Hanover
5. Ohio Northern (12-5, 7-3 OAC) - @ Baldwin Wallace, vs. Keene State
6. Wooster (13-4, 7-3 NCAC) vs. Emory and Henry, at Ohio Wesleyan, vs. Hanover
7. Ohio Wesleyan (12-5, 7-3 NCAC) vs. Ramapo
8. Mount St. Joseph (12-5, 9-1 HCAC) - vs Wash U.
9. Hope (10-7, 4-2 MIAA) - vs. John Carroll
10. Transylvania (13-4, 8-2 HCAC) - vs. Hanover

[Fifth and Putnam]

Taking a stab at the GL this morning...using resumes and what I've seen from these teams with my eyes.

Fifth and Putnam's Great Lakes Region
1. Wittenberg (17-0, 10-0 NCAC) - vs Marietta, vs Ohio Wesleyan, at Wooster
2. Baldwin Wallace (14-3, 8-2 OAC) - at UW-River Falls, at Marietta, vs. John Carroll
3. John Carroll (14-3, 8-2 OAC) - @ Marietta, vs. Marietta, vs. Ohio Northern
4. Marietta (13-4, 7-3 OAC) - vs. Ohio Northern, vs. Hanover
5. Ohio Northern (12-5, 7-3 OAC) - @ Baldwin Wallace, vs. Keene State
6. Wooster (13-4, 7-3 NCAC) vs. Emory and Henry, at Ohio Wesleyan, vs. Hanover
7. Ohio Wesleyan (12-5, 7-3 NCAC) vs. Ramapo
8. Mount St. Joseph (12-5, 9-1 HCAC) - vs Wash U.
9. Hope (10-7, 4-2 MIAA) - vs. John Carroll
10. Transylvania (13-4, 8-2 HCAC) - vs. Hanover

It's probably not perfect and I can see where people will probably say Team A should be here over Team B, or Team C should not be here at all. It is what it is.

You are right, you could quibble about this team or that team being ranked a slot or two too high or too low but I think you have a solid  group of teams there, F&P.  I think the OAC could get 3 in again this year if things fall right and all of these teams -- BW, JCU, Etta and ONU -- avoid the upset bug to the other 6 teams in the league (JCU already dropped one to Mount) and keep each other in the regional rankings.  Of course, they could each get upset and, with losses to each other, lose 3 more games each and find themselves in a situation where it is an OAC Tourney Title-or-Die situation.

The OAC got three teams in a couple of years ago with the trio of Marietta, Mount Union, and John Carroll (both MAR and Mount got to the 2nd weekend). The one thing you worry about is somebody like a Heidelberg, a Mount Union, or even a Muskingum biting one of those top 4 teams (HEID got ONU this past week).

I think 3 OAC teams getting in is very possible again this year (Marietta needs to get healthy) and I think the Top 4 teams are all good enough to win NCAA Tournament games. Should be a fascinating final 4 weeks and conference tournament.

Looking back, I'd probably flip Wooster and Ohio Northern.

[Onward on, John Carroll]

Is KnightSlappy going to put together mock regional rankings this year in advance of February 7th's release? I look forward to his and fantastic50's analysis.

[sac]

Is KnightSlappy going to put together mock regional rankings this year in advance of February 7th's release? I look forward to his and fantastic50's analysis.

He's been updating them all year, I assume this is what you mean.
http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-regional-rankings.html

[Knightstalker]

Is KnightSlappy going to put together mock regional rankings this year in advance of February 7th's release? I look forward to his and fantastic50's analysis.

He's been updating them all year, I assume this is what you mean.
http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-regional-rankings.html

I like the way he breaks it down on that spreadsheet.  Wish I had this to look at when I was trying to determine the top 10 in the Atlantic region.

We need a sticky or child board for the links to KS rankings and some of the others or if we have on I missed it.

[Onward on, John Carroll]

Is KnightSlappy going to put together mock regional rankings this year in advance of February 7th's release? I look forward to his and fantastic50's analysis.

He's been updating them all year, I assume this is what you mean.
http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-regional-rankings.html

It is but on my computer it has not shown the data all season.  Maybe it is my browser.  I need to figure this out.  I was under the (mistaken) impression that he had not posted it yet.

[Pat Coleman]

Is KnightSlappy going to put together mock regional rankings this year in advance of February 7th's release? I look forward to his and fantastic50's analysis.

He's been updating them all year, I assume this is what you mean.
http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-regional-rankings.html

I like the way he breaks it down on that spreadsheet.  Wish I had this to look at when I was trying to determine the top 10 in the Atlantic region.

We need a sticky or child board for the links to KS rankings and some of the others or if we have on I missed it.

It's linked from the front page of D3hoops.com -- under News, as Strength of Schedule.

[Knightstalker]

Is KnightSlappy going to put together mock regional rankings this year in advance of February 7th's release? I look forward to his and fantastic50's analysis.

He's been updating them all year, I assume this is what you mean.
http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-regional-rankings.html

I like the way he breaks it down on that spreadsheet.  Wish I had this to look at when I was trying to determine the top 10 in the Atlantic region.

We need a sticky or child board for the links to KS rankings and some of the others or if we have on I missed it.

It's linked from the front page of D3hoops.com -- under News, as Strength of Schedule.

Thanks Pat, I did not realize that.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Is KnightSlappy going to put together mock regional rankings this year in advance of February 7th's release? I look forward to his and fantastic50's analysis.

He's been updating them all year, I assume this is what you mean.
http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-regional-rankings.html

It is but on my computer it has not shown the data all season.  Maybe it is my browser.  I need to figure this out.  I was under the (mistaken) impression that he had not posted it yet.

Browser - at least it was for me initially.  If you pull it up on Windows Exploder (or whatever they call the current versions) it's blank.  Works fine on Chrome and Firefox for me. 

[fantastic50]

Is KnightSlappy going to put together mock regional rankings this year in advance of February 7th's release? I look forward to his and fantastic50's analysis.

Just in the last couple of days, I have gotten my stuff up and running.  I have mock regional rankings and Pool C info posted.  The data collection & analysis are automated this year, so I will be able to update it more frequently.  Hopefully, this will be a useful supplement to what Matt Snyder compiles.
http://www.fantastic50.net/d3h_men.html