Top 25 talk

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I was a bit surprised at the Augustana #1 vote.  Let me clarify - I had Augustana #2 and I think the Vikings are easily as good as Nebraska Wesleyan.  But just seems like when the defending national champion returns this much, they are #1 until game results show otherwise.

That said, I guess it's cool one of the voters didn't just automatically pencil in NWU.

I don't think it's "cool" when they deserve it. Yeah, when a defending National Champ loses a lot of their pieces and will most likely not be as good the upcoming year, yeah, vote someone else. But, when they basically return everyone and add to that, they probably deserve a unanimous vote. To simply vote for someone else because they want to be "that guy" isn't cool at all, IMO.

To be fair, we don't know why the person voted the way they did... so not sure if they are really "that guy" or not.

And no... I do not know who the person is nor am I asking around.

[Pat Coleman]

Just glad it didn't have to be me! I'm on the record as being someone who will cast a dissenting vote just to remind people that anything can happen and we shouldn't be too sure who the best team is.

[Titan Q]

I was a bit surprised at the Augustana #1 vote.  Let me clarify - I had Augustana #2 and I think the Vikings are easily as good as Nebraska Wesleyan.  But just seems like when the defending national champion returns this much, they are #1 until game results show otherwise.

That said, I guess it's cool one of the voters didn't just automatically pencil in NWU.

I don't think it's "cool" when they deserve it. Yeah, when a defending National Champ loses a lot of their pieces and will most likely not be as good the upcoming year, yeah, vote someone else. But, when they basically return everyone and add to that, they probably deserve a unanimous vote. To simply vote for someone else because they want to be "that guy" isn't cool at all, IMO.

What I'm saying is I think it's great a voter who truly feels Augustana is the best team had the conviction to rank them #1...instead of just picking NWU.

It's not like there is a ton of separation here between these top teams. 

[4samuy]

Seems pretty obvious. Giovanine hacked into the polls.

[WUPHF]

Or, Giovanine found one of the voters and camped out on the edge of his or her office and proceeded to scream and yell until the voter finally relented...

[4samuy]

I'm a big fan of Grey Giovanine.  I'm not going there.

[Mr. Ypsi]

He threatened to hit the voter with his jacket throw.

Actually, I'm a bit surprised Augie got only one #1 vote.  NebWes is the defending champ and has almost everyone back, but they seem like the 2010 IWU baseball team - a team that got hotter than hell at the right time, but probably not the BEST overall team for the season (neither was even in the Top 25 entering the tourney).  On the other hand, Augie brings almost everyone back AND returns Wofford.  If I had a vote, I would've gone like the 'unknown voter'.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Grey and I talked quite a bit the other day ... he never threatened me ... and you can see how I voted: http://bit.ly/2yf0J8C 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I was a bit surprised at the Augustana #1 vote.  Let me clarify - I had Augustana #2 and I think the Vikings are easily as good as Nebraska Wesleyan.  But just seems like when the defending national champion returns this much, they are #1 until game results show otherwise.

That said, I guess it's cool one of the voters didn't just automatically pencil in NWU.

I don't think it's "cool" when they deserve it. Yeah, when a defending National Champ loses a lot of their pieces and will most likely not be as good the upcoming year, yeah, vote someone else. But, when they basically return everyone and add to that, they probably deserve a unanimous vote. To simply vote for someone else because they want to be "that guy" isn't cool at all, IMO.

I was going to vote Whitman #1 until I saw the transfers coming in to NWU.  They'll more than replace what they lost, which, to me, earns them that top spot.  If they were only returning four starters and relying on bench guys for replacement, then Whitman would've been my #1.

[WUPHF]

I'm a big fan of Grey Giovanine.  I'm not going there.

If I were an Augustana fan, I would be a big fan too.

But, I am a grudge holder and I am still upset that he managed to convince the trailing official to call an over and back from 20 feet behind the ball.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I'm a big fan of Grey Giovanine.  I'm not going there.

If I were an Augustana fan, I would be a big fan too.

But, I am a grudge holder and I am still upset that he managed to convince the trailing official to call an over and back from 20 feet behind the ball.

I don't know many coaches who wouldn't have tried the same. Heck, I'm guilty of the same in a soccer game knowing the ref might by me knowing the rules, maybe, better than him. LOL

[4samuy]

I'm pretty sure I said That I'm a Grey Giovanine fan.  Did I mention Augustana?

[Gregory Sager]

He threatened to hit the voter with his jacket throw.

Actually, I'm a bit surprised Augie got only one #1 vote.  NebWes is the defending champ and has almost everyone back, but they seem like the 2010 IWU baseball team - a team that got hotter than hell at the right time, but probably not the BEST overall team for the season (neither was even in the Top 25 entering the tourney).

[WUPHF]

I don't know many coaches who wouldn't have tried the same. Heck, I'm guilty of the same in a soccer game knowing the ref might by me knowing the rules, maybe, better than him. LOL

In the don't know category, I don't know many coaches who can work the officials like Giovanine.

I am not upset that he tried, I am upset that it worked.

[y_jack_lok]

^^^ So your beef is really with the official???