Top 25 talk

[Greek Tragedy]

FWIW Bob,

The top 3 ODAC teams...

1. Guilford 136 points (6 1st place votes)
2. VWU 131 (4)
3. RMC 131 (3)

[Titan Q]

FWIW Bob,

The top 3 ODAC teams...

1. Guilford 136 points (6 1st place votes)
2. VWU 131 (4)
3. RMC 131 (3)

I think that's what's I reflected above? Or am I missing something?

[Titan Q]

I see what you mean - it's a tie for 2nd.

Same result for me though - if RMC isn't a clear 2, I'm not sold enough to put them in the preseason poll.

[Greek Tragedy]

I see what you mean - it's a tie for 2nd.

Same result for me though - if RMC isn't a clear 2, I'm not sold enough to put them in the preseason poll.

Yeah, that's what I meant. It's was #2 and #3, but really a virtual tie.

[AndOne]

Agreed, #1 is #1 until they aren't  Potsdam grad, in 1984-85 they lost by a point in the Championship game, next year they were 32-0, then won their first 28 in the next year [and got sent on the road in the Elite 8] #1 should be #1 and host until someone beats them at home.

But again, Oshkosh lost two 1st Team All-WIAC players...including the WIAC Player of the Year.  And Boots was their PG.  Is there a bigger loss to a great team than an All-American PG?

It's not like the whole team is back.

Yeah, it's a solid argument.  Vlotho will slot right in and I hadn't heard many freshman talked about like Eric Peterson; I tend to believe those who think he'll move into the starting lineup without missing a beat.  Of course, I expect the big man to only keep getting better.
Really, to me, their biggest question is depth. Depth would be the argument to put Swarthmore #1 which, who knows, may be the most popular choice when all is said and done.

This is always a fun time of year.

If you want to talk depth, this is a good reason to rank NCC #1. Right now, the Cardinals have 2-3 possible starting lineups depending on how players perform in the remaining practices prior to the first game. In each possible lineup, the 6th-8th men could start or be first off the bench for either NCC or almost any other team. Additionally, don't forget that the Cardinals are led by a coach who has been at the helm for 30 years and has 536 wins.

[Greek Tragedy]

I honestly think depth is overrated, more so when it comes to postseason. I think really good teams can and have proven you can play 6 or maybe 7 guys for a tournament run.

The 25-game regular season is a little different, but it can be done with only the #6 and #7 guys barely breaking double digits in minutes.

[AndOne]

Have to differ with you on the depth issue Greek. You never know when things such as foul trouble, illness, or a bad night by a player will necessitate an effective substitute in any single game. Or, if something such as a major injury might result in needing effective relief on a long term basis. These problems are solved with depth.
Last season, NCC lost their starting senior guard for the season in their 9th game, and their senior center for the season in the 11th game. Their depth was what provided effective relief to the point they were able to finish 2nd in the conference, win the conference tournament, advance to the national tournament, and finish 17th in the final poll.

Thinking this was possible due only to the valuable asset of depth.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Bob and I have 20 of the same teams on our ballots.

[Titan Q]

Bob and I have 20 of the same teams on our ballots.

Did you vote for Yeshiva 5 times?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Bob and I have 20 of the same teams on our ballots.

Did you vote for Yeshiva 5 times?

I've been trying to subtly hint at this, but I did not vote for Yeshiva this year.  I happen to think they've got Top 25 talent, but they didn't finish last season strongly enough for me to justify a vote (especially with so many deserving squads out there).  I am excited they're coming to the Eastern Shore in a couple weeks, though.  I'll get to see them in person early.  Hopefully the votes will come soon.

[Greek Tragedy]

Yeshiva started out 1-5 last season. Two of those losses were to Williams and Ramapo, but they never recovered from that start.

[Smitty Oom]

Bob and I have 20 of the same teams on our ballots.

Did you vote for Yeshiva 5 times?

I've been trying to subtly hint at this, but I did not vote for Yeshiva this year.  I happen to think they've got Top 25 talent, but they didn't finish last season strongly enough for me to justify a vote (especially with so many deserving squads out there).  I am excited they're coming to the Eastern Shore in a couple weeks, though.  I'll get to see them in person early.  Hopefully the votes will come soon.

To me, it sounds like Ryan is trying his best to win the Top 25 Pool over in the pick 'em league thread! 

[Greek Tragedy]

That's probably true, but he isn't/can't play that pool.

[Greek Tragedy]

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2019-20/preseason

Yeah!

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I promise, that Yeshiva vote was NOT me.  I've converted someone!!




(pun intended)