Top 25 talk

[Pat Coleman]

I figured he was talking about the Top 25 voters as if they were a committee.

[CollegeGolf18]

I figured he was talking about the Top 25 voters as if they were a committee.

Now how does the committee treat Wooster? Just lost to a Mount Union coming off two losses to Adrian (picked at the bottom of the MIAA) and Trine.

Let's at least wait until the Stagg Bowl before we start in on basketball committees. The first regional rankings won't be for a couple months.

HAHAHA. Yeah, I'm not sure why I wrote committee. I meant voters...

[Mr. Ypsi]

Wooster has such good (historical) credentials that they may fall only into the 20's rather than totally out, but not a good loss (despite UMU's preseason accolades - their long-term credentials are not good enough to withstand the MIAA losses).

[Titan Q]

Now how does the committee treat Wooster? Just lost to a Mount Union coming off two losses to Adrian (picked at the bottom of the MIAA) and Trine.

Wooster will probably be out of my top 25.  I had them in based on preseason assumptions, but once we get some real results to analyze I try my best to lean on those more that what I thought at the preseason ballot.

If Mount Union came in undefeated, I'd look at that result differently.  But as you point out, Mount lost to Adrian and Trine.  And the game was played at Wooster. 

Massey has Mount Union #43, Wooster #44, North Central #45. Not that Massey has enough data to be great yet, but for now I generally agree these 3 teams are probably not top 25 right now.  I do expect all 3 to contend for their league titles and be back in my top 25 eventually.

I guess it will just depend on what happens in other games between now and the next vote.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I watched a lot of the Wooster-UMU game.  I didn't see two super good teams there.  Very good, for sure, but UMU was clearly better.  It'll be quite the decision down towards the bottom of the poll this week.  A lot of teams we just don't know much about yet - including those two!

[Titan Q]

Elmhurst 83
#23-Wabash 66

https://elmhurstbluejays.com/boxscore.aspx?path=mbball&id=4824

[Titan Q]

Big Central Region matchup today - #17-Augustana vs #15-Wash U.

A few thoughts on this one from the CCIW board - http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4592.msg1963635#msg1963635.

[Titan Q]

Still too early for Massey to have enough data, but 5 CCIW teams in the top 25 right now...

#2 Elmhurst
#4 Augustana
#18 Illinois Wesleyan
#20 Wheaton
#24 Carthage

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb2020/ncaa-d3/ratings

And this does not include preseason CCIW favorite North Central (Massey #33, D3hoops.com #9).

[Titan Q]

Per Massey, here are the two worst strength of schedules of the current D3hoops.com Top 25 teams:

* #3 Amherst (Massey SOS #341)
* #5 Middlebury (Massey SOS #299)

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Every off-season has it's headlines and surprising news. This past off-season seemed to have a few extra more surprising results. While we are nearly a month into the new season, decisions in the off-season are continuing to make waves throughout Division III.

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[sac]

Still too early for Massey to have enough data, but 5 CCIW teams in the top 25 right now...

#2 Elmhurst
#4 Augustana
#18 Illinois Wesleyan
#20 Wheaton
#24 Carthage

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb2020/ncaa-d3/ratings

And this does not include preseason CCIW favorite North Central (Massey #33, D3hoops.com #9).

What's the minimum games before massey is no longer too early.   Most D3's hit 6 games this weekend, or just under 25% of their season.

[Fifth and Putnam]

Still too early for Massey to have enough data, but 5 CCIW teams in the top 25 right now...

#2 Elmhurst
#4 Augustana
#18 Illinois Wesleyan
#20 Wheaton
#24 Carthage

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb2020/ncaa-d3/ratings

And this does not include preseason CCIW favorite North Central (Massey #33, D3hoops.com #9).

What's the minimum games before massey is no longer too early.   Most D3's hit 6 games this weekend, or just under 25% of their season.

I usually start looking at Massey once we get halfway through December. 10 games or so.

[Titan Q]

Big Central Region matchup today - #17-Augustana vs #15-Wash U.

A few thoughts on this one from the CCIW board - http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4592.msg1963635#msg1963635.

Wash U 73
Augustana 70

Based on my non-conference CCIW watching so far, I like Elmhurst and Carthage as the best two, followed very closely by a 3-way tie involving Illinois Wesleyan, North Central, and Augustana. 

Honestly, I am real close to saying all 5 of these teams are dead even.

And I'd put Wash U right in this tie as well.  It is a crazy season.

[Titan Q]

Final from Christopher Newport:

UW-Stevens Point 61
#11-Christopher Newport 58

[frodotwo]

Final from Christopher Newport:

UW-Stevens Point 61
#11-Christopher Newport 58

Pointers sweep in Virginia by beating CNU 61-58. Led wire to wire and move to 5-0 on the season. Ethan Bublitz was 22-22 from the line during the weekend, now at 96% for the year. They may earn a couple of votes in the poll this week