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jmcozenlaw

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on June 06, 2020, 02:28:20 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on June 06, 2020, 10:54:14 AM

Macon and Yeshiva are in the same boat, from my perspective - most of the talent comes back, but I want to see what chemistry looks like without those seniors; both schools are losing two really important leaders, even if not always on the stat sheet.

I could be getting things wrong, but I thought we realize Yeshiva was only losing one key senior.

You might be talking about Leifer, who was a senior but has one more year of eligibility remaining. Alluf and Katz are definitely gone. I think Simcha Halpert is as well, but not 100% sure.

Titan Q

Quote from: jmcozenlaw on June 06, 2020, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on June 06, 2020, 02:28:20 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on June 06, 2020, 10:54:14 AM

Macon and Yeshiva are in the same boat, from my perspective - most of the talent comes back, but I want to see what chemistry looks like without those seniors; both schools are losing two really important leaders, even if not always on the stat sheet.

I could be getting things wrong, but I thought we realize Yeshiva was only losing one key senior.

You might be talking about Leifer, who was a senior but has one more year of eligibility remaining. Alluf and Katz are definitely gone. I think Simcha Halpert is as well, but not 100% sure.
Yes, Leifer was a senior academically last year but he returns for sure.

Simcha Halpert (16.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.1 apg) is a big loss.

SpringSt7

If I have the sense for Ryan's love of Yeshiva that I think I do, I'm going to step out and guess that the second senior he is referring to is starting center Dan Katz, who was a key cog in their motion offense as a screen setter and good passer out of the post, in particular skip passes to shooters on the weak side. He is definitely someone who will need to be replaced. However, I just don't think the departure of someone who averaged 5 points and 3 rebounds a game is something that warrants concern, especially if his backup was already outscoring and rebounding him in less minutes. Chemistry and leadership are important, but I don't know if, in this case, they're THAT important.

WUPHF

I think that makes sense, though in watching the Washington University archives, I am still marveling at the impact of a player who averaged 19 minutes, 2.7 points, 6.1 rebounds, and 2.7 assists per game.

jmcozenlaw

Quote from: WUPHF on June 07, 2020, 12:03:56 PM
I think that makes sense, though in watching the Washington University archives, I am still marveling at the impact of a player who averaged 19 minutes, 2.7 points, 6.1 rebounds, and 2.7 assists per game.

They have two players on the bench ready to step in and make a difference and word has it that they have a stud freshman (a not so mini-Turell type who will see major minutes) and are working on a major transfer, but it's no better than 50-50 at this point given all of the unknown about this upcoming school year and season. It might be shelved for a year. IF the transfer comes to fruition this year, the Top 5 Ranking will be more than justified. Katz's replacement is a better player and athlete than him, but just needs minutes.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

 I'm not doubting the production from either team, but chemistry matters, and both schools will have to replace very effective leaders. Totally possible, but you want to see it.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh



First, we apologize for the "June Podcast" showing up in early July. Computer problems caused havoc this month. Sadly, it delayed our production plans for several weeks, but we are calling this our June edition all the same.

When the season came to a sudden close, it left a lot of unfinished business on our end. We didn't have national champions to talk to, but we also had a lot of news to cover. This podcast we take some time to do some catching-up with the season's number one men's team and the Jostens Trophy winners - with Gordon Mann and Ryan Scott picking up the interviewing responsibilities.

And we all know the coronavirus has changed everything this year, but how close to home has it hit you? We talk to one coach who experienced it himself first hand while also having his wife be diagnosed with COVID-19 days after giving birth to their first child.

Guests include:
- Matt Airy, Aurora men's coach
- Sydney Kopp, No. 11 DePauw's Jostens Trophy winner (interviewed by Gordon Mann)
- Kena Gilmour, Hamilton's Jostens Trophy winner (interviewed by Ryan Scott)
- Landry Kosmolski, No. 1 Swarthmore men's coach

Oh, did we mention the Hoopsville Notebook? It is a jam-packed notebook this edition. Plenty of notes regarding coaching hires and changes, athletic decisions per COVID-19, Regional Ranking updates, and much more.

Dave also takes the time to say goodbye to Chris Wenzler, Sports Information Director at John Carroll University, who lost his 26-month battle with cancer. This month's show is dedicated in his honor.

You can listen to the podcast here: https://bit.ly/38i86Nc

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The off season has hit August and with it has come news of Division III Fall Championships being canceled for the same reason Winter Championships were derailed and Spring Championships pulled earlier this year: COVID 19 Pandemic.

The decision came on the heals of a vast majority of DIII institutions curtailing fall sports and many pushing winter sports starts on their campuses until January at the earliest.

What does this mean for the 2020-21 season of college basketball? Specifically what does it mean for Division III? Will there be a basketball season? Will it be a six-week-or-so-sprint? Or is there a way to adjust things?

On the Mid-Summer edition of the Hoopsville Podcast, we try and get some answers to those questions. We talk to one coach who actually has put together a proposal to start the season in January, with some changes to make it work including crowning a champion in April. And we talk to an administrator who also serves on the DIII Management Council to better under stand the decisions made to cancel championships and if shift a season like basketball is even possible.

Plus, we honor the best of the best in the last decade of Division III women's basketball. Gordon Mann joins us to discuss how the 2nd D3hoops.com Women's All-Decade came together (and hints of work on the men's list).

Guests include:
- Philip Ponder, Oglethorpe men's coach
- Jason Fein, Bates Athletics Director and DIII Management Council member
- Gordon Mann, D3hoops.com Senior Editor

And of course, there is always the Hoopsville Notebook. A few things we take note of that have made headlines since the beginning of July. We also tip our hat to a few of those who have always helped the show be it's best.

You can listen to the podcast here: https://bit.ly/3kGZ962

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Smitty Oom

Been off the boards since the dust settled on the cancelation of the NCAA tourney. Hope everyone is doing well.

Just listened to the podcast, I enjoyed it! Gordon you and the team did a great job with the All-Decade team. Always a sucker for pieces/teams like that. The profiles are an awesome touch. I am very excited to look at the Mens team!

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Will there be a 2020-21 NCAA Division III basketball season? If so what will it look like? What will the post-season look like?

It is on the mind of student-athletes, coaches, administrators, parents, and fans for several weeks, if not months, now. We are finally understanding what it may look like as a number of decisions or proposals are now making their way around Division III.

In this month's podcast, Dave McHugh not only downloads all the things being considered and the likely outcomes, but tries to give listeners an understanding of how much is still unknown despite some things becoming more clear.

McHugh also talks to Texas-Dallas women's basketball coach Polly Thomason for her take. Thomason has been in the Division III Women's Basketball National Committee for several years and is this season's chair of the committee. She also serves on the WBCA Board of Governors. Thomason not only provides her perspective on much of what is going on not only in Division III, but in women's basketball as well.

And of course, there is always the Hoopsville Notebook. Unfortunately, there is some sad news in the Notebook this month, but also news to celebrate especially when it comes to DIII alums making news in the NBA.

You can listen to the podcast here: https://bit.ly/3kMl0rZ

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Titan Q

#13075
Removing the teams that have opted out of the 2020-21 season for sure, here are my Top 10 candidates if I had to submit a Top 25 ballot today. 

Years listed below are as of last season's roster.

Spots #1-5 candidates (alphabetical order):

Elmhurst (25-5, 11-5 CCIW)
G - Jake Rhode, 5-11 Jr. 20.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 4.1 apg 1st Team All-CCIW
F - Derek Dotlich, 6-3 Sr. 15.8 ppg, 3.9 rpg 2nd Team All-CCIW
C - Lavon Thomas, 6-5 Jr. 13.5 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 2.0 apg 2nd Team All-CCIW
F - Jay Militello, 6-4 Jr. 8.9 ppg, 5.9 rpg
G - Dominic Genco, 6-3 Jr. 7.1 ppg, 2.8 rpg
G - Wesley Hooker, 6-2 Fr. 5.3 ppg, 2.9 rpg
G - Nick Perry, 5-11 Jr. 4.5 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 2.5 apg
C - Ebrahim Jobe, 6-9 Jr. 4.5 ppg, 5.1 rpg

Illinois Wesleyan (19-9, 11-5 CCIW)
G - Grant Wolfe, 5-11 Jr.  18.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 3.6 apg (only played 7 games due to injury; missed final 19 games)
G - Peter Lambesis, 6-4 So.  12.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.5 apg 2nd Team All-CCIW
G - Keondre Schumacher, 5-11 So.  12.0 ppg, 1.9 apg
F - Doug Wallen, 6-5 Jr.  11.2 ppg, 5.6 rpg
F - Matt Leritz, 6-7 So.  10.9 ppg, 5.5 rpg  1st Team All-CCIW
G - Luke Yoder, 6-0 Fr.  10.4 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.3 apg  CCIW Freshman of the Year
F - Charlie Bair, 6-7 Jr.  9.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg
G - Cory Noe, 6-2 So.  8.8 ppg, 2.3 rpg

Johns Hopkins (24-4, 16-2 Centennial)
G - Conner Delaney, 6-0 Jr. 17.5 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 4.9 apg 1st Team All-CC, CC POY
F - Tom Quarry, 6-6 So. 13.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg 2nd Team All-CC
G - Joey Kern, 6-1 Jr. 8.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 2.1 apg
G - Braeden Johnson, 6-6 So. 8.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg
F - Harry O'Neill, 6-6 Sr. 8.2 ppg, 4.7 rpg
G - Ethan Bartlett, 6-3 So. 8.0 ppg, 5.4 rpg
F - Chid Nnake, 6-6 So. 4.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg
G - Carson James, 6-2 Fr. 4.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg

Randolph-Macon (28-2, 15-1 ODAC)
G - Buzz Anthony, 5-11 Jr. 16.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 6.2 apg 1st Team All-ODAC, ODAC POY
F - Miles Mallory, 6-5 Fr. 12.3 ppg, 7.8 rpg ODAC Rookie of the Year
G - Josh Talbert, 6-2 Fr. 10.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 2.1 apg
F - Ian Robertson, 6-7 So. 8.5 ppg, 3.9 rpg
G - Corey Bays, 6-3 Sr. 7.7 ppg, 2.4 rpg
G - Terry Woods, 5-11 Jr. 7.3 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.6 apg
F - David Funderburg, 6-7 Jr. 5.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg
G - Korey Turner, 6-0 Sr. 4.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.7 apg

Yeshiva (29-1, 16-0 Skyline)
G - Ryan Turell, 6-7 So. 23.9 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.4 apg 1st Team All-Skyline, Skyline POY
G - Simcha Halpert, 6-3 Sr. 16.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.1 apg 2nd Team All-Skyline
F - Gabriel Leifer, 6-5 Sr. 16.0 ppg, 11.5 rpg, 6.6 apg 1st Team All-Skyline
G - Ofek Reef, 6-1 Fr. 10.7 ppg, 2.6 rpg Skyline Rookie of the Year
G - Eitan Halpert, 5-11 Jr. 6.2 ppg, 2.0 apg
G - Bar Alluf, 6-4 Sr. 5.4 ppg, 2.2 rpg
F - Caleb Milobsky, 6-6 Jr. 5.4 ppg, 3.6 rpg
F - Daniel Katz, 6-4 Sr. 4.8 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.2 apg
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Spots #6-10 candidates (alphabetical order):

Albion (21-5, 12-2 MIAA)
F - Caden Ebeling, 6-7 Jr. 17.7 ppg, 8.3 rpg 1st Team All-MIAA
G - Jamezell Davis, Jr., 5-9 Jr. 16.6 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.0 apg 1st Team All-MIAA
F - Quinton Armstrong, 6-5 Jr. 12.4 ppg, 8.0 rpg
G - Cortez Garland, 6-0 So. 10.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 2.5 apg MIAA Defensive Player of the Year
G - MJ Barnes, 6-0 So. 7.3 ppg, 1.8 rpg
G - Juwan Perry, 6-2 Jr. 4.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg

St. Joseph CT (26-3, 11-0 GNAC)
G - Delshawn Jackson Jr., 5-10 So. 21.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.7 apg 1st Team All-GNAC
F - Jordan Powell, 6-6 Jr. 15.3 ppg, 7.4 rpg 2nd Team All-GNAC
G - Jaecee Martin, 5-10 So. 14.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 7.5 apg 1st Team All-GNAC, Defensive POY
G - Taelon Martin, 6-5 Fr. 10.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg GNAC Rookie of the Year
G - Ryan O'Neill, 6-5 So. 10.0 ppg, 4.9 rpg
F - Tyree Mitchell, 6-4 So. 5.8 ppg, 1.9 rpg
F - Jake Sullivan, 6-5 So. 4.3 ppg, 3.9 rpg

St. Thomas (26-3, 19-1 MIAA)
G - Anders Nelson, 6-0 So. 15.9 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.4 apg 1st Team All-MIAC
F - Elijah Hannah, 6-3 Sr. 11.3 ppg, 3.8 rpg 3rd Team All-MIAC, Sixth Man of the Year
F - Tommy Anderson, 6-4 Sr. 10.7 ppg, 2.6 rpg 3rd Team All-MIAC

G - Riley Miller, 6-2 So. 8.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.7 apg 2nd Team All-MIAC
G - Burt Hedstrom, 6-4 Jr. 8.0 ppg, 4.7 rpg
G - Ryan Lindberg, 6-3 Jr. 6.8 ppg, 2.6 rpg HM All-MIAC, All Defensive Team
G - Zach Theisen, 6-0 So. 5.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg
G - Will Engels, 6-5 Fr. 4.6 ppg, 1.7 rpg
G - Kevin Cunningham, 6-0 So. 4.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg

UW-Platteville (23-5, 12-2 WIAC)
G - Carter Voelker, 6-3 Sr. 15.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 3.8 apg All-WIAC, Co-WIAC POY
G - Quentin Shields, 5-9 Jr. 14.9 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.8 apg All-WIAC, All Defensive Team
F - Kyle Tuma, 6-5 So. 10.8 ppg, 5.9 rpg HM All-WIAC
F - Justin Stovall, 6-7 Jr. 10.2 ppg, 6.2 rpg HM All-WIAC, All Defensive Team
G - Blake McCann, 6-3 So. 8.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg
G - Drew Gunnink, 6-0 Jr. 7.0 ppg, 2.3 rpg
F - Justin Fox, 6-4 Jr. 5.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg

Wash U (22-5, 11-3 UAA)
G - Jack Nolan, 6-1 Jr. 18.5 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 2.3 apg 1st Team All-UAA, Co-Player of the Year
F - Justin Hardy, 6-5 So. 14.3 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.6 apg 2nd Team All-UAA
F - DeVaughn Rucker, 6-5 Sr. 12.8 ppg, 6.7 rpg 1st Team All-UAA
C - Hank Hunter, 6-9 Sr. 8.0 ppg, 6.2 rpg

G - Payden Webb, 6-0 Jr. 7.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg
G - Matt Nester, 5-11 Sr. 6.7 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.3 apg
F - Kameron Mack, 6-6 So. 5.6 ppg, 2.2 rpg
F - Nate Bloedorn, 6-7 Fr. 4.1 ppg, 3.0 rpg
G - Charlie Jacob, 6-2 So. 4.1 ppg, 2.0 rpg
G - Jonathan Arenas, 6-3 Sr. 2.7 ppg, 6.1 rpg


Dave 'd-mac' McHugh



The Division III basketball season technically started nearly three months ago, but it has taken until the end of January for it to start feeling like the season is really underway. Even so, only about a quarter of the division has played just a single game. Another quarter of the division will never take to the court. And in between is wide gulf of different options.

On the first video-version of Hoopsville this season, Dave McHugh is joined by much of the D3hoops.com crew, Pat Coleman and Ryan Scott, to react to what has been one of the more unique seasons ... to say it lightly.

We react to the challenges schools are facing, what coaches are grappling with on a daily basis - especially beyond games and practices, and why schools are making so many different decisions.

We also discuss what is likely the future of this season's NCAA Championship Tournaments and, more importantly, when the decision on those tournaments will be made.

Plus, will there be a Top 25? No. Well, yes. Kind of. Tune in to learn more on what's coming. Plus a lot more including Dave spinning off Pat's thoughts on those wishing to attend games.

Hoopsville is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can watch the show by clicking on the video player above. Or you can listen to the podcast available on any of the service options in the right panel.

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You can WATCH the show or listen to the podcast here: https://bit.ly/3oASGKl or https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2020-21/january

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Titan Q

#13077
There will be a D3hoops.com poll coming out early this week.  Watch here for details:

https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2020-21/january

[48:15 start]

Most unique ballot ever.

Help me make sure I am considering the right teams (based on the criteria).  I'm kind of looking at it in these buckets...

Top 10 Expectations Coming Into 2020-21 (see above and going back on this thread)
- Randolph-Macon (3-0)
- Illinois Wesleyan (1-0)
- Albion (1-0)

[These teams are locks for me.]

Other Top 25 Candidates Coming Into 2020-21
- Marietta (1-0)
- St. John's (1-0)
- Mount Union (3-0)
- Wheaton (3-0)
- Whitworth (4-3; 2-0 vs D3; 2 wins over D2 SPU)

[I believe I will have all of these teams in.]

Making a case based on 2020-21 results
- Bluffton (9-0)
- Trine (7-0)
- Dubuque (6-0)
- DePauw (3-0)
- Lynchburg (3-0)
- Buena Visita (2-0)
- Condordia WI (2-0)
- Heidelberg (2-0)
- Pacific Lutheran (2-0; 2 wins over Whitman)
- Trinity TX (5-1)
- Mary Hardin-Baylor (9-3)
- Covenant (7-4; 6-1 D3)
- Rose-Hulman (5-1)
- North Central (3-1)

[I have room for 7 from this list...plus any I am missing.]


Who else?

augie77

That's 14 out of 19 from the geographic Midwest.  That seems unrealistic.

Titan Q

#13079
Quote from: augie77 on January 30, 2021, 07:09:08 PM
That's 14 out of 19 from the geographic Midwest.  That seems unrealistic.

You have to remember, certain parts of the country are not playing at all -- most of the teams from the E and NE part of the country have zero games.

Some of the top conferences have not played -- like the WIAC, NESCAC and UAA.

Some teams expected to be Top 10 teams coming in - like Yeshiva - have not played.

This is a weird ass ballot situation.