Top 25 talk

[Greek Tragedy]

Elmhurst is one spot ahead of Oswego St and they lost twice.

[deiscanton]

Seems like Emory, Nazareth and St. Thomas (TX) are a pretty natural swap for Oswego, Wash U. and Wabash in next week's top 25 ...

Emory has earned a Top 25 ranking this week, in my book.   The Eagles flew to Maine (or flew to Boston and bussed from Boston to Maine, most likely-- more flights from Atlanta to Boston per day than from Atlanta to Portland Jetport, ME) and took care of business against Bates and Colby-- Brandeis lost to Colby, and Wash U lost the Lopata Classic title game to Pomona-Pitzer.

I am still looking forward to see how Brandeis plays at #1 Christopher Newport in January, assuming the Judges can beat Babson and Westfield State beforehand.

[WUPHF]

Emory has earned a Top 25 ranking this week, in my book.   The Eagles flew to Maine (or flew to Boston and bussed from Boston to Maine, most likely-- more flights from Atlanta to Boston per day than from Atlanta to Portland Jetport, ME) and took care of business against Bates and Colby-- Brandeis lost to Colby, and Wash U lost the Lopata Classic title game to Pomona-Pitzer.

Emory does not have a great, prototypical Top 25 profile in my opinion, but in this crazy season, they are a Top 25 team.

[nescac1]

MHB and Oswego are definitely the "on paper" teams in the Top 25.  But for last year's performance, and the huge percentage of guys they brought back, they would not even be close to sniffing the top 25. 

MHB 2-2 without a signature win (5-4 Pomona doesn't count) and with a pretty bad loss, and Oswego 5-2 without a top 25 win (Hobart is pretty good, the rest unimpressive) and two losses to teams outside the top 25.  Nazareth CERTAINLY has a MUCH better resume than Oswego ... a win H-2-H and its only loss a very narrow road loss at a top ten team.

Those are the two who stand out to me ...

[Greek Tragedy]

Elmhurst is one spot ahead of Oswego St and they lost twice.

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2022-23/week2

Well, I was right about Elmhurst, at least. Oswego St barely stayed in.

[Greek Tragedy]

https://youtu.be/QgmyVLheqkQ

I was looking at the Top 25 and scrolled past Mary Washington and Mary Hardin Baylor, so I instinctively sang Run D.MC.'s Mary Mary. My wife asked me what I was saying, so I had to look up the video for her. Not impressed, but still one of my favorite bands growing up.

[PauldingLightUP]

2023 Pre Championship Manual is out!

Of note, combined championship coming back to Indy in 2026 based off future dates section.

Other stuff as you would expect, pretty much copy and paste from year to year except committees.

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/basketball/d3/men/2022-23D3MBB_PreChampManual.pdf

[Darryl Nester]

How They Fared (Complete)

Several games still in progress; I will update those scores this evening (probably sometime after 6:00).

Top 25

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#1	617	Christopher Newport	9-0	def. Marymount, 81-66
#2	588	St. Joseph (Conn.)	8-0	won at Elms, 86-51; def. Rivier, 94-52
#3	582	UW-La Crosse	9-1	won at Luther, 70-41; LOST to #33 Trine, 64-67
#4	538	Williams	10-0	won at SUNY Oneonta, 66-56; def. Springfield, 72-53
#5	460	Randolph-Macon	7-1	won at Eastern Mennonite, 75-48
#6	441	Mount Union	7-1	def. #9 John Carroll, 75-72; def. Ohio Northern, 89-71
#7	437	Rochester	9-1	def. Ithaca, 76-64; won at Wooster, 91-80
#8	435	Keene State	10-0	def. Plymouth State, 95-65; def. Rhode Island College, 98-60
#9	393	John Carroll	7-1	LOST at #6 Mount Union, 72-75; def. Capital, 77-59
#10	345	UW-Oshkosh	7-2	IDLE
#11	322	Wheaton (Ill.)	7-2	LOST to T#30 Elmhurst, 75-79 OT
#12	308	Middlebury	8-1	def. Plattsburgh State, 78-59; won at Skidmore, 73-53; def. Stevens, 76-53
#13	283	WPI	7-1	def. Husson, 76-49; won at Salem State, 77-62
#14	277	Case Western Reserve	7-0	won at Kalamazoo, 93-58
#15	257	Calvin	7-1	IDLE
#16	247	Johns Hopkins	6-2	IDLE
#17	203	Claremont-Mudd-Scripps	8-1	def. Bethesda, 96-54
#18	134	RPI	9-1	def. SUNYIT, 52-49; def. Bard, 82-44
#19	129	Heidelberg	7-1	won at Wilmington, 90-73
#20	121	Stockton	8-1	won at Rutgers-Newark, 75-62; def. William Paterson, 76-63
#21	114	Emory	7-1	won at LaGrange, 86-68
#22	97	Mary Washington	6-1	IDLE
#23	95	St. Thomas (Texas)	8-1	IDLE
#24	86	Mary Hardin-Baylor	3-3	won at LeTourneau, 86-73; LOST at East Texas Baptist, 64-72
#25	82	Oswego State	7-2	won at SUNY Potsdam, 79-60; won at Plattsburgh State, 86-74

Others receiving votes

Rank	Pts	Team	W-L	Results
#26	68	Swarthmore	8-1	def. Susquehanna, 84-65
#27	64	Nazareth	6-1	IDLE
#28	59	Marietta	6-2	def. Penn State-Altoona, 82-67; def. Baldwin Wallace, 78-73
#29	36	Tufts	8-1	won at #50 Clark, 97-90 OT; def. Suffolk, 90-82
T#30	35	Guilford	8-2	def. Greensboro, 88-47
T#30	35	Elmhurst	7-2	won at Kalamazoo, 81-61; won at #11 Wheaton (Ill.), 79-75 OT
#32	27	Berry	8-0	IDLE
#33	26	Trine	7-1	LOST at UW-Stevens Point, 49-53; won at #3 UW-La Crosse, 67-64
#34	23	Montclair State	8-0	won at William Paterson, 71-61; def. TCNJ, 83-70
T#35	21	Catholic	9-0	def. Bridgewater (Va.), 65-62
T#35	21	NYU	9-0	won at York (N.Y.), 98-62; def. Hunter, 138-92
#37	18	Trinity (Conn.)	9-1	def. Anna Maria, 91-61; def. CCNY, 88-33; LOST at Western New England, 78-80
#38	15	Kean	10-0	won at TCNJ, 78-62; def. New Jersey City, 93-67
T#39	14	Colby	10-1	def. Maine-Farmington, 81-70; def. Bates, 78-61
T#39	14	Muhlenberg	6-1	def. Drew, 84-61
#41	13	Washington U.	7-2	won at Fontbonne, 81-46; def. Principia, 89-56
T#42	7	Redlands	5-1	IDLE
T#42	7	Wabash	7-2	def. Denison, 74-66
T#44	6	Roanoke	7-1	won at Washington and Lee, 79-73; won at Pratt, 84-42
T#44	6	Illinois Wesleyan	5-3	def. North Central (Ill.), 87-85
T#46	4	North Park	7-1	def. Augustana, 70-59
T#46	4	St. John's	7-2	won at Macalester, 75-50; won at Hamline, 75-46
T#46	4	Concordia-Chicago	7-0	LOST (exhibition) at UW-Parkside (D2), 68-76; def. Marian, 95-87
#49	3	Whitman	8-1	def. Northwest Indian, 113-56
#50	2	Clark	8-1	LOST to #29 Tufts, 90-97 OT; def. John Jay, 92-59
T#51	1	Pomona-Pitzer	6-4	def. La Verne, 79-51
T#51	1	Western Connecticut	7-0	def. Mass-Boston, 82-66; won at York (N.Y.), 63-58

[Gregory Sager]

T#46

4

Concordia-Chicago

7-1

LOST at Parkside, 68-76; def. Marian, 95-87

The loss to UW-Parkside, which is D2, was an exhibition for Concordia IL. Therefore, the Cougars are still undefeated at 7-0.

[Darryl Nester]

T#46

4

Concordia-Chicago

7-1

LOST at Parkside, 68-76; def. Marian, 95-87

The loss to UW-Parkside, which is D2, was an exhibition for Concordia IL. Therefore, the Cougars are still undefeated at 7-0.

Thanks for the heads up, Gregory; I edited the report to reflect this information.

[CNU85]

If you want to start with low confidence, you can cheer on my Pointers with me. They were 4-17 last year.

I was looking up something I heard the other day and wanted to verify. Since the start of the 2018-2019 season, CNU is 54-2 at home. The 2 losses came in the 2019-2020 season. The first loss that year was on December 1 -- against the Pointers!

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

If you want to start with low confidence, you can cheer on my Pointers with me. They were 4-17 last year.

I was looking up something I heard the other day and wanted to verify. Since the start of the 2018-2019 season, CNU is 54-2 at home. The 2 losses came in the 2019-2020 season. The first loss that year was on December 1 -- against the Pointers!

I was at that game.  On my birthday.

[ronk]

If you want to start with low confidence, you can cheer on my Pointers with me. They were 4-17 last year.

I was looking up something I heard the other day and wanted to verify. Since the start of the 2018-2019 season, CNU is 54-2 at home. The 2 losses came in the 2019-2020 season. The first loss that year was on December 1 -- against the Pointers!

Thought Scranton might have been the other loss but when I looked it up, it was 7 years ago in 2015. 
Time is fleeting.

[Greek Tragedy]

Point started off so well that year and then fell off dramatically. They were supposed to win the National Championship that season after winning in 2005, 2010 and 2015. They didn't even make the NCAAs, so I can't even blame Covid.

[CNU85]

If you want to start with low confidence, you can cheer on my Pointers with me. They were 4-17 last year.

I was looking up something I heard the other day and wanted to verify. Since the start of the 2018-2019 season, CNU is 54-2 at home. The 2 losses came in the 2019-2020 season. The first loss that year was on December 1 -- against the Pointers!

aahhhh. I remember that!

I was at that game.  On my birthday.

(modified by GS for formatting)