Top 25 talk

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Pat says Lincoln was snowed out.  I'll take his word for it.

[njlincolnlion]

Silly Me....Lincoln didn't play last night, I misread their schedule.  

[njlincolnlion]

Finally got it all sorted, Lincoln was scheduled to play Richard Stockton (Pat was right ), the game has been postphoned until 2/6/06.   

[Greek Tragedy]

Finally got it all sorted, Lincoln was scheduled to play Richard Stockton (Pat was right), the game has been postphoned until 2/6/06.   

You were questioning Pat? 

HOOPS FAN,

If you are going to post the Top 25, I'd appreciate it if you'd post it in TABLE format, it's easier to read! lol  just kidding. (major sarcasm there).  Does anyone realize how hard it is to format a table with this new program???  Wow.  With some help, I figured out how to do it...and needless to say, I don't even put the WIAC pick em league in table format.

[Mr. Ypsi]

The voters are in an even more volatile mood that I realized!  In only two weeks, Hope and Lawrence have gone from 59 and 24 votes, respectively, to the top ten!

I am curious about the LACK of movement for Potsdam, though - despite being undefeated (with a win over Rochester), they still have basically the same paltry vote total they had pre-season.  Any voters want to comment on what you DON'T like about them?

[Greek Tragedy]

I'm pretty surprised to see Lawrence jump up even more this week.  They did win two road games, but Knox and Ill. College are usually pretty horrible, so it's not  like they beat Ripon and Carroll on the road.  The teams that were around the 10-14 places basically stayed the same, while Larry U jumped from 15 to 9.  Interesting.  I think that the Vikings probably should've been ranked coming into the season, so I guess this is the voters making up for that. 

[bj5485]

The voters are in an even more volatile mood that I realized!  In only two weeks, Hope and Lawrence have gone from 59 and 24 votes, respectively, to the top ten!

I am curious about the LACK of movement for Potsdam, though - despite being undefeated (with a win over Rochester), they still have basically the same paltry vote total they had pre-season.  Any voters want to comment on what you DON'T like about them?

Potsdam has not played Rochester this year.

[bj5485]

It isn't really surprising that Potsdam hasn't moved much. When you consider what they lost via graduation and the fact that they have 10 new players including 8 freshman and that most voters haven't seen them play then they won't get much love without a long winning streak.

[Knightstalker]

Add to that the only decent team they have played so far is Wilkes.

[Mr. Ypsi]

My bad!   I somehow got it into my head that they beat UR - how, I have no clue!

[njlincolnlion]

Old School:

You are so right, I don't know I was thinking about questioning Pat  .

[ScotsFan]

Nice to see the Great Lakes Region strongly represented!  Four teams in the top 8, and BW cracks in at #21, and one could argue they have been under-rated so far this season.  They have a win over #18 SJF and their only loss was to #7 Albion by 3 points.   

[sac]

Hope #8

Yeah, I finally have something to talk about in here and not be clueless.   

Welcome back to the top 10 Hope.....first time since week 13 of 2004, which is much more recent than I thought.

yeah anyway.

[David Collinge]

I don't think anyone questions the top of the UAA year-in and year-out...I know I don't.  Afterall, between Rochester, Wash U, and Chicago, I believe the conference has had a team in the D3hoops.com Top 10 just about every week since Pat Coleman's crew started doing a poll. 

This post stuck in the back of my head since I first saw it, but I was on the road and not in a position to check out this assertion.  Now that I'm resettled, I've had a chance to look at my rankings database and, as I anticipated, this claim is a bit overstated. 

There was a time when the UAA was a top 10 regular.  In the '02-'03 season, WashU was in the top 10 each week, and Rochester was there in 13 of the 15 polls.  In fact, these two were ranked 1-2 for six straight weeks that season.  The following year, Rochester was in the top 10 in every poll.  WashU. was in the top 25 in two polls, but that was it. 

That glory faded, however, last season.  WashU wasn't ranked at all last year, and Rochester cracked the top 10 just three times (preseason, week 1, and final.)  In a nine-week stretch (weeks 3-11), there was no UAA team anywhere in the top 25, and in week 9 no UAA team even received a single vote.

Rochester has been ranked in each of the '05-'06 polls, but has not cracked the top 10.

No other UAA team (including Chicago) has been in the top 25 at any point in the past 3+ seasons.

In summary, in the 50 most recent D3Hoops.com polls, stretching back to the '02-'03 preseason poll, there has been at least one UAA team in the top 10 34 times (68%), which may be solid representation but hardly amounts to "just about every week."  Furthermore, in the past 17 polls (since '04-'05 week 2) the conference has been represented in the top 10 just once: Rochester at #4 in last year's final poll.

[Titan Q]

David, I should have worded that better, but I do feel comfortable with the intent of my statement/post. 

Chicago was a national power under Pat Cunningham in the late '90s (right about the time the D3hoops.com poll came out), making the 1998 Sweet 16 @ Platteville.  Then in the early years of Mike McGrath's tenure Chicago was great...hosted a Sectional, made Elite 8 in 2001.  In 2002 and 2005 Rochester was in Salem.  Wash U was very good in 2001 and 2002, then rated #1 at times during the 2002-03 season. 

The UAA has had at least one "national power" just about every year for the last few years.  Had I just said that, it would have saved you some time today!