Top 25 talk

[Mr. Ypsi]

While the official poll had UPS 11th (and the PP had them 12th), and although UPS is one of IWU's 'signature wins', I'm feeling a whole lot better that I already had them only 18th.  Depending upon what other teams do, of course, at this point I doubt that UPS will be on my ballot again at all this year.

[And I still have trouble with a school being UPS - aren't they the guys in the brown shorts?! ]

[Ralph Turner]

...I'm feeling a whole lot better that I already had them only 18th. 

And I had them 17th.  One skeptical voter did not rank them.

[wooscotsfan]

Final:  #1 Wooster 95  Wabash 71

Wooster had 6 players in double figures today led by Tom Port with 17 points, Devin Fulk with 14 points, Tim Vandervaart with 13 points, Kyle Witucky with 12 points, James Cooper with 10 points and Andy Van Horn with 10 points.  Scots made 13 three pointers today. 

This game was over at halftime as Wooster led 59-29 and the Scots bench played a big portion of the 2nd half.  Wabash was led by Andrew Zimmer with 15 points and Gary Simkus with 13 points.

Wooster is now 22-1, 14-0 NCAC. 

GO SCOTS!!

[Pat Coleman]

Amherst 52, Tufts 36 HALF

[Mr. Ypsi]

WPI fell twice this week - how far will they fall in the poll?

Although I seem to recall Pat saying a team losing twice typically falls about 8 places, I'll predict they drop out completely.  I suspect their support was kinda soft - 8 of 12 teams above them had worse records.  At 19-1, the feeling may have been that (despite a questionable schedule) they have to be somewhere pretty high.  With that schedule and three losses, I predict they are gone.

Comments?

[David Collinge]

As Pat and others have pointed out on numerous occasions, you can't look at a team in isolation; where they are ranked depends both on what they do and what others in (and out of) the poll do. 

With that caveat, I agree: WPI is gone.

[Mr. Ypsi]

David, that's absolutely true (and I included that caveat just 3 posts earlier when talking about UPS - didn't want to beat the poor dead horse)!

(Though for posters whining about their teams ranking, it apparantly cannot be repeated often enough!)

[augie_superfan]

Tough night in the CCIW:

#3 Augustana  71
Millikin             73

- Augie loses on a buzzer-beater

#7 Illinois Wesleyan  66
Wheaton                 69


Carthage                  85
#15 North Central      73

[smedindy]

So it's Millikin 73-71, not Augie??

[Greek Tragedy]

Point comes from 18 down with 13 minutes to go to shock #12 (?) Stout in Menomonie, 69-68, even without senior forward starter Brian Bauer.  That's gotta hurt Stout...more in the Pool C board.

[augie_superfan]

Yeah....sorry, Augustana LOST to Millikin...I've changed my previous post

[Ralph Turner]

Yeah....sorry, Augustana LOST to Millikin...I've changed my previous post

We understand.  Those tears can make your keyboard slippery!

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Lots of shakeups in the poll coming this week.  A lot of questions to be answered as well.  Like, will people actually stop voting for WPI and tell me I was right all along? (Same goes for UPS, by the way).

I'll try to run down the happening this week, if the individual team pages ever load (this always happens Monday morning.  I'm not sure if its me or the site, but hey, whatever.)

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

1.   Wooster (22-1, 14-0) wins over Hiram and Wabash
2.   Lawrence (20-0, 14-0) win over Beloit
3.   Augustana (20-3, 10-2) loss at Wheaton (IL), loss at Millikin
4.   Hope (21-2, 10-2) loss at #25 Calvin, win at Adrian
5.   Baldwin-Wallace (21-2, 15-1) wins over Mt Union and at Muskingum
6.   Wittenberg (21-2, 12-2) wins at Ohio Wesleyan and Hiram
7.   IWU (18-4, 8-4) win over Millikin, loss at Wheaton (IL)
8.   York (21-2, 10-2) wins at Hood, over Catholic and at Mt St Mary
9.   Amherst (22-2, 8-1) wins at Lasell and over Bates and Tufts
10. Albion (18-4, 9-3) wins over Alma and at Kalamazoo
11. Puget Sound (18-4, 12-2) loss at Whitworth, win at Whitman
12. Stout (18-5, 11-4) win over Superior, loss to Stevens Point
13. WPI (19-3, 8-3) loss at Wheaton (MA), home loss to Coast Guard
14. Mississippi College (21-1, 18-1) wins over Letourneau and East Texas Baptist
15. North Central (18-5, 7-5) wins over Wheaton (IL) and North Park, home loss to Carthage
16. Carnegie Mellon (18-4, 8-3) loss to NYU, win over Brandeis
17. Transylvania (19-4, 10-2) win over Hanover, loss at Manchester
18. Occidental (18-2, 9-1) wins at Cal Lutheran and over Whittier
19. VA Wesleyan (21-3, 16-1) wins over Lynchburg and at Bridgewater
20. St John Fisher (20-3, 11-1) wins at Alfred, and over Elmira and Ithaca
21. Lincoln (20-4) home win over Richard Stockton
22. Carroll (19-2, 13-1) win at Ripon
23. Wartburg (18-4, 11-3) win over Loras
24. Ohio Northern (17-5, 12-4) loss at Wilmington, win over Marrietta
25. Calvin (18-5, 11-1) wins over #4 Hope, and at Olivet

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I'm not sure what to make of the CCIW anymore, either the whole conference is that much better than everybody else or they've all been beaten and worn down by the competition so that our opinions of them are inflated.  I just don't know what to do with them right now.