Top 25 talk

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

You've convinced me.  I'll put Fisher in there to make it an even ten.

[hugenerd]

Carnegie Mellon did beat Princeton who now has 7 D1 wins. 

Another note on Princeton, they are now 5-2 and second place in the Ivy League.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

True, but they've been a little closer to the earth in recent weeks.  If they can win the UAA outright I'll put them at the top.

[smedindy]

It's time again for my power rating amalgamation, after Sunday's games.

Now before someone goes postal, yes Lawrence did slip to #4. But their SOS slipped while Wooster's and B-W's improved and only 3.5 rating points (in my system) separate 1st though 4th, while there is a 19.5 gap between 4th and 5th. So basically, take 1-4 as a group that could all really be #1.

Needless to say, Wooster's SOS will dip with their game against Kenyon last night.

1. Wooster
2. Baldwn - Wallace
3. Wittenberg
4. Lawrence
5. Hope
6. Amherst
7. Augustana
8. Illinois Weslyean
9. Carroll
10. Lincoln
11. Carnegie Mellon
12. York (PA)
13. Tufts
14. Transylvania
15. St. John Fisher
16. Calvin
17. Wisc - Stout
18. Va. Wesleyan
19. Albion
20. Wisc - LaCrosse
21. Puget Sound
22. NYU
23. North Central
24. Wisc - Whitewater
25. Cortland State

Mississippi College's SOS took a huge dive (229 to 266) - thanks to games against weak sisters. They're now #30 due to that.

The Bottom 10:

395. Daniel Webster
394. Green Mountain
393. Maranatha Baptist
392. Maine - Presque Isle
391. Principia
390. Centenary
389. Massachusetts College
388. Albertus Mangus
387. Bard
386. Anna Maria

Gotta love the NE region, eh?

[Grutte Dirk]

What league traditionly recieves the least respect in the ranks, then produces in the NCAA's?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I think the ranking does a fine job of giving recognition to the teams that ultimately prevail in the tourney.

[Pat Coleman]

I'm glad you said this, because I was looking at the message trying to figure out if there were any conferences that fit the premise of his question. I couldn't come up with any.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Now the regional rankings on the other hand...

[sac]

How about the MIAC?  Some of the schools have had good NCAA runs in recent years.......but they certainly aren't considered Final Four material every year coming out of the rugged West.  Those teams always seem to get the short end in the poll as they're almost always ranked behind UW schools.

[Pat Coleman]

They've only made the Final Four once. The MIAC is indeed 10-9 in the postseason since the pool system came into play, but take out Gustavus Adolphus' 5-1 sprint to Salem in 2003 and you're left with something far more mediocre.

[sac]

Rethinking the question.........its sort of loaded.

Most often individual teams seem to get respect in the poll despite their weak conferences.  It sure didn't hold back WPI this year.

I think Pats pollsters are pretty good at picking out the questionable schedules.  It would be interesting to see what teams with great records who were ranked relatively low in the D3hoops poll flopped out of the tournament early.

I bet the poll has nailed most of them.

[smedindy]

So much for #4.

Wabash 51, Wittenberg 46!          

[Mr. Ypsi]

Reportedly, B-W also went down, as did Albion.  Looks like probably ANOTHER big shake-up in the rankings.

[larry_u]

Lawrence 64 Carroll 63 on a Kevin Bradley Buzzer beater...

LU stays undefeated and will now host the MWC Tournament

3 peat!!!

[John Gleich]

Pat, do you have the stats for all the conferences somewhere, since the Pool System?  If you don't have it off hand (like is posted on the d3football page) then don't worry about it... I just wondered what it looked like.

UW Whitewater beats Oshkosh tonight by 10 and nails down at least a share of the WIAC title.  Point lost to Platteville, so Stout is now the only team that can catch the Warhawks (granted, with a Warhawk loss).

The WIAC finally appears to be shaking out:

1 Whitewater*  12-3
2 Stout               11-4
3 La Crosse        10-5
3 Stevens Pt       10-5

5 Oshkosh          9-6
6 Platteville        7-8
7 River Falls        5-11 
8 Eau Claire       4-11

9 Superior          0-15

If the season were to end today, I believe that Point would be the 3rd seed and La Crosse the 4th (because Point swept them).