Top 25 talk

[wooscotsfan]

Final:  #3 Wooster 84  Earlham 74

Wooster was led tonight by James Cooper with 19 points, Tim Vandervaart with 15 points and Tom Port with 11 points.  Brandon Miller had 22 points and LaRon Henry added 18 points for the Quakers.

Wooster and Wittenberg will now meet for the third time this season in the NCAC tournament final game tomorrow night....with the automatic NCAA bid at stake.

Wooster is now 25-2 

GO SCOTS!! 

[Gregory Sager]

Yipsi,

The discussion started before Oxy lost the third.  But the real arguement over bias was when Pat said that Wheaton had a bigger upside than Redlands at the time of their early season meeting.  His arguement for this was based on what they had done in privious years, so they obviously could improve more in the 6 weeks since this meeting.  I contended that what the school had done in privious years was irrelavant in terms of these two teams since we seemed to agree that both teams were young teams. 

I would've agreed with you, Digs, since I went 15 rounds with your adversaries on this exact same topic at the beginning of the season. I strongly dislike the fact that bias creeps into the polls in any way, shape, or form whatsoever, and I think that the first few polls of the season are to some degree tainted by it. Nevertheless, I didn't jump to your defense in this debate because, as Chuck pointed out, Oxy's bona-fides were pretty shaky. If I'm going to try everyone's patience by rehashing that endless argument from this fall  , I want to have a better case with which to argue it than the 2005-06 Occidental Tigers. They had a nice season, but not one that was properly suited to my rhetorical purposes. 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

If I'm not mistaken, there is one more vote today, right?

1.   Lawrence (24-0) wins MWC with wins over Knox and #15 Carroll
2.   Hope (26-2) wins MIAA with wins over Alma, #11 Albion and at #13 Calvin
3.   Wooster (25-3) wins over Kenyon and Earlham, lost to #6 Wittenberg in the NCAC final
4.   York (24-3) win over Goucher and a loss to Catholic in the CAC semis
5.   Amherst (25-2) wins the NESCAC with wins over Conn Coll, Bates and Tufts
6.   Wittenberg (25-3) wins NCAC with wins over Denison, OH Wesleyan and #3 Wooster
7.   Baldwin-Wallace (24-4) wins OAC with wins over Mt Union, Wilmington and #22 OH Northern
8.   VA Wesleyan (25-3) wins ODAC with a win over #25 Randolph-Macon
9.   Augustana (21-5) loss to #12 IWU in the CCIW semis
10. Mississippi College (27-1) won the ASC with wins over Sul Ros State, McMurry and Howard Payne
11. Albion (20-6) win over Adrian, loss to #2 Hope in the MIAA semis
12. IWU (20-6) win over #9 Augustana, loss to #19 North Central in the CCIW final
13. Calvin (22-6) wins over Olivet and Kalamazoo, loss to #2 Hope in the MIAA final
14. Stout (21-6) wins over River Falls and Stevens Point, loss to #20 Whitewater in the WIAC final
15. Carroll (21-4) win over Grinnell and a loss at #1 Lawrence in the MWC final
16. St. John Fisher (24-3) wins E8 with wins over Rochester Tech and Utica
17. Puget Sound (21-4) wins NWC with a win over Whitworth
18. Lincoln (23-4) wins the East Independent Tournament with wins over Mitchell and St Joe's (ME)
19. North Central (22-5) wins the CCIW with wins over Elmhurst and #12 IWU
20. Whitewater (22-5) wins WIAC with wins over Eau Claire, La Crosse and #14 Stout
21. Transylvania (24-4) wins HCAC with wins over Defiance, Mt St Joseph and Franklin
22. Ohio Northern (21-6) wins over John Carroll and Muskingum, loss to #7 Baldwin-Wallace in the OAC final in OT
23. WPI (22-3) wins NEWMAC with wins over Wheaton (MA) and MIT
24. Carnegie Mellon (20-5) win over Rochester (and a UAA title)
25. Randolph-Macon (22-6) lost the ODAC final to #8 VA Wesleyan

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Anyone else find it odd that #11-15 all lost, but #16-21 all won?

[njlincolnlion]

Hoops Fan:

If there is one more vote today, maybe Lincoln will move up even more and make more school history.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I don't see why not, lots of teams above them lost, and they actually played some games this week, so you never know.  It's hard to believe York is so much higher than Lincoln.  I have to assume, based on the season, that they are pretty evenly matched.

[Pat Coleman]

Yes there is a poll this week. Hopefully tonight, maybe during Hoopsville, it will be completed. Selection Sunday always pushes back the start time for voters because I usually don't get them the info in a timely manner.

Hoops Fan, I suspect York and Lincoln will be closer today than last week.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Pat,

I'm curious, I guess anyone can answer as well, do you think Hope is going to steal any votes from Lawrence after the impressive MIAA tournament they just ran through?


That Hope squad is looking quite formidable.

[smedindy]

I can't see how, if you are the king and you are undefeated, how you can still not be the king.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I can't see how, if you are the king and you are undefeated, how you can still not be the king.

I would agree, but Hope still has votes, it hasn't been unanimous and even me (a season-long LarryU supporter) has to admit that Hope's weekend was quite impressive.

[Pat Coleman]

Lawrence's weekend didn't suck.

I don't know if any votes will turn over but certainly the top spot will stay in Appleton.

[fisheralum03]

is there going to be a top 25 today??

[devossed]

is there going to be a top 25 today??

See Pat's post from this afternoon:

Yes there is a poll this week. Hopefully tonight, maybe during Hoopsville, it will be completed. Selection Sunday always pushes back the start time for voters because I usually don't get them the info in a timely manner.

Hoops Fan, I suspect York and Lincoln will be closer today than last week.

[David Collinge]

Top 25 News and Notes, Vol 7, Issue 107

The top news story:  #4 AMHERST appears in the top 25 for the 62nd consecutive week, tying the record held by UW-Stevens Point and Catholic.  Congratulations to the Lord Jeffs!

Congratulations also to Lake Erie College and Huntingdon College, both of which received votes in the Top 25 poll for the first time ever!

Schools that achieved or tied their highest D3hoops.com Top 25 ranking ever this week include
#1 Lawrence
#2 Hope
#7 Virginia Wesleyan
#8 Mississippi College
#10 North Central (first-ever appearance in top 10!)[/i]

It's a round-number week for #3 Wittenberg:

• 20th consecutive week in the top 10,
• 30th week overall in the top 10, and
• 70th week overall in the top 25.

Calvin is in the top 25 for the 50th time.

Congratulations to these outstanding programs on their achievements!  8)

Addendum: Condolences to #21 Albion and #25 Ohio Northern, the only top 25 teams left out of the NCAA draw.

To the other 23 ranked and 36 unranked teams, good luck in the tournament!

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Thanks for the update DC, isn't Wooster approaching some kind of record as well?