Top 25 talk

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · October 06, 2006, 01:10:53 PM

It doesn't hurt that there is a website dedicated to information about d3 basketball that gets several million hits every season. That seems like it would make his job a little easier to do well.

Gregory Sager · October 06, 2006, 02:27:28 PM

If Mistovich is using d3hoops.com as a journalistic source, it'd be nice to know. Not that I subscribe to Basketball Times anymore, but can anyone who does get the magazine attest to Mistovich ever citing d3hoops.com as a source?

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · October 06, 2006, 03:01:23 PM

I didn't necessarily mean he used the site as a source, but it certainly is a great place to find leads on information that may not fall into your lap.

Gregory Sager · October 06, 2006, 03:14:08 PM

That's what a source is!

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · October 06, 2006, 03:52:50 PM

Yeah, but not enough that you'd have to cite it anywhere.

If he was perusing the press releases or something and saw that obscure d3 school A has set a conferece record for margin of victory or something and he checks into it. That's something he might not have known without the site, but not something he would have to cite anywhere.

Greek Tragedy · October 06, 2006, 05:40:28 PM

Quote from: Hoops Fan on October 06, 2006, 01:10:53 PM
It doesn't hurt that there is a website dedicated to information about d3 basketball that gets several million hits every season. That seems like it would make his job a little easier to do well.

I'd like more information on this website you are talking about. A website dedicated to information about d3 basketball? Wow.

I'm sure it's a pretty sweet site! I wonder if it has a message board. That'd be cool to talk trash (not that I would do that, but maybe someone else would). 8)

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · October 07, 2006, 01:01:20 PM

I'm not much for talking and I don't think I'd ever post on a message board about d3 basketball. Weird.

Gregory Sager · October 09, 2006, 11:37:18 AM

Hello ...

I don't think that Mistovich needs d3hoops.com to be his middleman for school press releases, since that's been his bread-and-butter all along as a Basketball Times columnist. I'm sure that he's on the mailing list of any school that bothers to send them out. But there's a lot of other info to be gleaned from this site other than access to school press releases, and if he is using d3hoops.com as that kind of an information clearinghouse, it'd be good form if he gave the site a mention -- even if he isn't quoting from it for attribution.

Again, I haven't read his column in years, and for all I know he does mention Pat's site in it.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · October 09, 2006, 01:51:39 PM

Quote from: Gregory Sager on October 09, 2006, 11:37:18 AM
Again, I haven't read his column in years, and for all I know he does mention Pat's site in it.

Wow, so potentially, this could be the most pointless conversation any of us has ever had. That would be an amazing feat, given the inanity of off-season chat on this site.

Gregory Sager · October 09, 2006, 02:19:51 PM

Quote from: Hoops Fan on October 09, 2006, 01:51:39 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on October 09, 2006, 11:37:18 AM
Again, I haven't read his column in years, and for all I know he does mention Pat's site in it.

Wow, so potentially, this could be the most pointless conversation any of us has ever had. That would be an amazing feat, given the inanity of off-season chat on this site.

Agreed. Whenever someone on CCIW Chat gripes about us going off on an unproductive tangent, we can just paste in this conversation in its entirety.

Ralph Turner · October 09, 2006, 03:05:45 PM

Quote from: Hoops Fan on October 06, 2006, 08:55:34 AM

I just like that they're not afraid of the regional bias and always put Mississippi College up in the top. MC has a good squad, but no one sees them.

I don't know who Street & Smith have doing this preview, but they know just enough to make it seem like they know what they're talking about. Probably helps the profit margin to operate that way.

MC is that good. I just strongly disagree with the way that MC plays when they get into the meat of the Great Lakes Region. They try to play traditional Great Lakes style ball and lose everytime. They do not use their quickness; they do not stretch the other teams deep bench. MC's #9, #10 and #11 players are almost always very strong. They have more athleticism that the Great Lakes Ohio Valley area teams, but then go half-court/slow down pace that does not stress the stamina of the really better #1 -#5 players that we see on those northern teams.

That being said, Tyler Winford is that good. He needs to be on the floor 27-29 minutes a game, more than the usual 20-22 that he sees.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · October 09, 2006, 05:12:52 PM

I wasn't saying they weren't good. I'm a huge MC fan. I was giving S&S some credit for recognizing that they are a top team, even if their results in the tournament in recent years has seemed to indicate otherwise.

Ralph Turner · October 09, 2006, 05:18:17 PM

Quote from: Hoops Fan on October 09, 2006, 05:12:52 PM

I wasn't saying they weren't good. I'm a huge MC fan. I was giving S&S some credit for recognizing that they are a top team, even if their results in the tournament in recent years has seemed to indicate otherwise.

Thanks for the props to an ASC team. I wasn't implying that you were disparaging MC. I just used that as a segue to talk about the Choctaws.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · October 09, 2006, 05:20:55 PM

Duly noted.

sac · October 10, 2006, 11:55:27 PM

MC loses to GL teams in the tournament because they don't play good enough defense and are too short. Their speed is overrated as Calvin was a quicker team in 05 and ran MC out of the Gym.

MC was the 4th best team at Albion, and the 4th best team at Wittenberg. In each case I saw teams in the previous round that were better than MC.

jmho