Top 25 talk

[sludge]

gordonmann and Hoops Fan - thanks for your input.  I understand your logic and had thought along the same lines myself.  We'll see, but I personally hope (and believe) the Quakers should still be in the Top 25 after today's poll.  Peace 

I'm with you, has, but I figure even if they go out, they can get back.

[Marty Peretz]

Why hasn't the poll come out yet?

[Pat Coleman]

It requires 25 votes. One voter holds it up.

[David Collinge]

Top 25 Scores and Schedule, January 22-28 (UPDATED with Wednesday scores as I get them)

#   1   UW-Stevens Point (16-2) lost to#8 UW-Oskosh 72-55
#   2   Amherst (18-0) def. So. Vermont 111-67, plays at Colby Fri., and plays at Bowdoin Sat.
#   3   Wooster (16-2) def. Kenyon 89-54 and plays at Earlham Sat.
#   4   Virginia Wesleyan (15-2) def. Hampden-Sydney 75-49, plays at Emory & Henry Sat., and plays at #25 Guilford Sun.
#   5   Mississippi College (15-1) hosts LeTorneau Thu. and hosts East Texas Baptist Sat.
#   6   St. Thomas (15-2) won at St. Olaf 78-53, def. Hamline 90-71, and plays at Macalester Sat.
#   7   Whitworth (16-1) plays at Pacific Fri. and plays at Lewis & Clark Sat.
#   8   UW-Oshkosh (16-3) won at #1 UW-Stevens Point 72-55 and hosts UW-River Falls Sat.
#   9   Hope (15-2) def. Tri-State 101-57 and hosts Kalamazoo Sat.
#   10   Washington U. (14-1) hosts Brandeis Fri. and hosts #24 NYU Sun.
#   11   Elmhurst (15-2) def. North Central Wed. and plays at #12 Augustana Sat.
#   12   Augustana (15-3) def. Illinois Wesleyan 64-62 and hosts #11 Elmhurst Sat.
#   13   Puget Sound (14-2) plays at Willamette Fri. and plays at George Fox Sat.
#   14   Ohio Northern (14-4) def. Heidelberg 83-80 and plays at Baldwin-Wallace Sat.
#   15   Occidental (11-3) hosts Redlands Wed. and plays at La Verne Sat.
#   16   Wittenberg (15-3) won at Wabash 64-51 and hosts Denison Sat.
#   17   Worcester Polytech (15-1) def. Coast Guard 76-68 and plays at Wheaton (Mass.) Sat.
#   18   Aurora (16-1) def. Lakeland 94-76 and hosts Benedictine Sat.
#   19   Bates (15-2) def. Emmanuel 75-57, plays at Wesleyan Fri., and plays at Conn. College Sat.
#   20   Carthage (12-5) won at North Park 64-62 and hosts Illinois Wesleyan Sat.
#   21   Wheaton (Ill.) (12-5) won at Millikin 71-57 and plays at North Central Sat.
#   22   Johns Hopkins (12-2) def. Gettysburg 83-67 and plays at Washington Coll. Sat.
#   23   Keene St. (15-2) won at Plymouth St. 58-57, plays at Mitchell Thu., and plays at Mass.-Dartmouth Sat.
#   24   NYU (14-2) plays at Chicago Fri. and plays at #10 Washington U. Sat.
#   25   Guilford (13-2) hosts Randolph-Macon Sat. and hosts #4 Virginia Wesleyan Sun.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

PrideSportBBallGuy Rankings through Monday's games


1   Amherst
2   UW-Stevens Point
3   Wooster
4   Whitworth
5   Virginia Wesleyan
6   Mississippi College
7   Scranton
8   Hope
9   Maryville(TN)
10   Washington U.
11   Aurora
12   Lake Erie
13   UW-Oshkosh
14   DePauw
15   Worchester Polytech
16   Trinity(Conn)
17   Utica
18   St. Thomas
19   Keene St
20   Messiah
21   NYU
22   John Hopkins
23   *Lincoln(7/23)
24   Puget Sound
25   Elmhurst


Dropped out: # 11 Middlebury #17 William Patterson, #24 Rhode Island College, #25 Centre

*Ranking excludes the 201-78 game.  As it was determined by posters as an outlier.

Thanks again to formerban.  Utica does not drop out.

[formerbant10]

Not to be a jerk, but you have Utica @ #17....not dropping out. 

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

formerban-

A mistake on my part.  Thanks for the correction.  Not dropping out.  I will take care of it.

[Ralph Turner]

1   Amherst
2   UW-Stevens Point
3   Wooster
4   Whitworth
5   Virginia Wesleyan
6   Mississippi College
7   Scranton**
8   Hope
9   Maryville(TN)**
10   Washington U.
11   Aurora
12   Lake Erie**
13   UW-Oshkosh
14   DePauw
15   Worchester Polytech
16   Trinity(Conn)
17   Utica**
18   St. Thomas
19   Keene St
20   Messiah**
21   NYU
22   John Hopkins
23   *Lincoln(7/23)
24   Puget Sound
25   Elmhurst

I see those 5 teams as earning their rankings in isolation.  We should see some "sanity" as you get more games, and a few losses by these teams that tie your model into the "real" world occur.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

Ralph-

I have said somewhere, I think on the USASouth Board, more games will put it into "real" world.

Last week I had 15 of 25 (d3hoops top 25)

This week I have 17 of 25.

Another 4 of d3hoops top 25 are within 10 of getting into the my top 25 ranking.

[wooscotsfan]

Final:  #3 Wooster 89  Kenyon 54

Wooster was led tonight by James Cooper with 20 points, Tom Port with 15 points, Brandon Johnson with 14 points and Devin Fulk with 10 points.  The Scots made 14 three pointers tonight.

Wooster is now 16-2, 9-0 NCAC     Next game at Earlham on Saturday.

GO SCOTS!

[OshDude]

No. 1 team is on the ropes. Oshkosh is up on Stevens Point by 16 with 12:50 left...

[Just Bill]

Point is going to fall hard.  They trail Oshkosh 69-49 with 1 minute to play.  Can't wait for the rubber game in the WIAC Tournament!

[hoopstar]

If Miss. College hadnt lost to Wesley college the first game of the year what would they be ranked now?

[David Collinge]

Top 25 Scores and Schedule, January 22-28 (UPDATED with one Thursday score)

#   1   UW-Stevens Point (16-2) lost to#8 UW-Oskosh 72-55
#   2   Amherst (18-0) def. So. Vermont 111-67, plays at Colby Fri., and plays at Bowdoin Sat.
#   3   Wooster (16-2) def. Kenyon 89-54 and plays at Earlham Sat.
#   4   Virginia Wesleyan (15-2) def. Hampden-Sydney 75-49, plays at Emory & Henry Sat., and plays at #25 Guilford Sun.
#   5   Mississippi College (15-1) hosts LeTorneau Thu. and hosts East Texas Baptist Sat.
#   6   St. Thomas (15-2) won at St. Olaf 78-53, def. Hamline 90-71, and plays at Macalester Sat.
#   7   Whitworth (16-1) plays at Pacific Fri. and plays at Lewis & Clark Sat.
#   8   UW-Oshkosh (16-3) won at #1 UW-Stevens Point 72-55 and hosts UW-River Falls Sat.
#   9   Hope (15-2) def. Tri-State 101-57 and hosts Kalamazoo Sat.
#   10   Washington U. (14-1) hosts Brandeis Fri. and hosts #24 NYU Sun.
#   11   Elmhurst (15-2) def. North Central 98-84 and plays at #12 Augustana Sat.
#   12   Augustana (15-3) def. Illinois Wesleyan 64-62 and hosts #11 Elmhurst Sat.
#   13   Puget Sound (14-2) plays at Willamette Fri. and plays at George Fox Sat.
#   14   Ohio Northern (14-4) def. Heidelberg 83-80 and plays at Baldwin-Wallace Sat.
#   15   Occidental (11-4) lost to Redlands 109-106 and plays at La Verne Sat.
#   16   Wittenberg (15-3) won at Wabash 64-51 and hosts Denison Sat.
#   17   Worcester Polytech (15-1) def. Coast Guard 76-68 and plays at Wheaton (Mass.) Sat.
#   18   Aurora (16-1) def. Lakeland 94-76 and hosts Benedictine Sat.
#   19   Bates (15-2) def. Emmanuel 75-57, plays at Wesleyan Fri., and plays at Conn. College Sat.
#   20   Carthage (12-5) won at North Park 64-62 and hosts Illinois Wesleyan Sat.
#   21   Wheaton (Ill.) (12-5) won at Millikin 71-57 and plays at North Central Sat.
#   22   Johns Hopkins (12-2) def. Gettysburg 83-67 and plays at Washington Coll. Sat.
#   23   Keene St. (16-2) won at Plymouth St. 58-57, won at Mitchell 79-69, and plays at Mass.-Dartmouth Sat.
#   24   NYU (14-2) plays at Chicago Fri. and plays at #10 Washington U. Sat.
#   25   Guilford (13-2) hosts Randolph-Macon Sat. and hosts #4 Virginia Wesleyan Sun.

[diehardfan]

At the Oxy game and Redlands is up on oxy by 8 with 4 mins left in the half. Oxy looks a little tired already... this could get ugly.

www.tigersports.com (i believe) has the call. The poster with that name should have his website linked in his profile.