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John Gleich

Quote from: Gregory Sager on October 12, 2007, 12:30:44 AM
But the Warhawks may be the most talented team in the WIAC going into 2007-08.

... as they have been for umteen years in a row...!  You pegged UWW there pretty well GS.
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It does seem like Whitewater is always the most talented, but then they falter at the end...seemingly the complete opposite of what a team with new players should do! lol

It will be very interesting on what the WIAC brass have to say going into the season.  Point has four starters back, but lose the all important post game of Jon Krull.  Whitewater, with all their transfers will be there and I think River Falls will be tough as well.  Platteville has Lohoff and their big man Skemp back and that will be big with the graduations of the other big guys Gibson, Nonemachers, Krull and Werner, among others.
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ILive4This

I am going to be perfectly honest, I am a bit surprised by Brandeis' preseason ranking....I am not saying it is not deserved, but i figured they would be somewhere between 15-20 and work their way up. I am also a bit surprised that Amherst is not given the number 1 ranking, or at least by their fall to 4. They are national champs and return most of their team including pre-season AA poing gard Olsen. I think you need to give them #1 until the prove otherwise, that is normally how it works.

Whether Rochester should be where they are or not, The UAA is stacked this year. 3 teams in the top 10 is going to lead to an interesting year for many of these teams. especially because these 3 schools in general have presented themselves as difficult places to play at least in recent years (and this is aside from the foul advantage in St. Louis).

abominable_snowman

I'm going to post it here, because I'm not sure where else.  But here's the question.

Have there been any noteworthy teams that have had success despite a smaller than average roster?  (8-11 man)
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smedindy

As in total roster, or in rotation?

There may have been successful teams with 10 or 11 man rosters, but a lot of teams have a whole bundle of freshmen to mix and match. Even the dregs of the NCAC usually have a good number of freshmen (except some of the Oberlin teams...)
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Mr. Ypsi

He's talking total roster.  Apparently Carleton (MIAC) is now down to 10 players, with rumors they may shrink to 9.

smedindy

Hmmm...issues afoot in Northfield?
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: abominable_snowman on October 15, 2007, 03:49:10 PM
I'm going to post it here, because I'm not sure where else.  But here's the question.

Have there been any noteworthy teams that have had success despite a smaller than average roster?  (8-11 man)

Recently? It's hard to think of one. When you get down to 11 or so players, the ability to run an effective practice becomes problematic. There's just too much stuff in practice that has to be done in a 5-on-5 context, and when you're down to 10 or 11 guys you run the risk of a player's absence from a practice (for whatever reason) disrupting your ability to rehearse your offensive and defensive sets in a proper game-condition context. And when you get below ten guys on the team, you're really hampered in that regard. I don't know how Norman Dale managed to do it at Hickory. ;)

I don't think that you necessarily lose anything in terms of talent with that small of a roster, provided that your top eight or so have the requisite amount of talent, because there are plenty of teams out there that don't play a rotation bigger than seven or eight guys. But I can see where the inability to fill out a full set of ten players for practice purposes can really hamper a team's progress ... to say nothing of attrition issues (injuries, illnesses, academic concerns, etc.).
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ILive4This

I am unsure if this has been asked or answered or both yet, but I was wondering when the d3 hoops preseaon top 25 will be released.

David Collinge

Quote from: David Collinge on August 16, 2007, 11:41:07 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 18, 2006, 11:57:19 PM
Instead of bugging Pat with an e-mail, I will just ask it here.  When does d3hoops usually release the real and only preseason poll that matters?

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 19, 2006, 02:06:35 AM
Around Nov. 1.

ILive4This

do we think we could possibly put together a posters top 25, if everyone give their personal top 25, and we assign points as normal 25 down to 1, and then add it all together I think it would be pretty interesting to compare to the official poll when it comes out....id be happy to add it all up, if someone else gets the ball rolling with their picks...

Ralph Turner

Quote from: ILive4This on October 26, 2007, 12:23:49 AM
do we think we could possibly put together a posters top 25, if everyone give their personal top 25, and we assign points as normal 25 down to 1, and then add it all together I think it would be pretty interesting to compare to the official poll when it comes out....id be happy to add it all up, if someone else gets the ball rolling with their picks...
Sounds like another premium feature to me!  ;)

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: ILive4This on October 26, 2007, 12:23:49 AM
do we think we could possibly put together a posters top 25, if everyone give their personal top 25, and we assign points as normal 25 down to 1, and then add it all together I think it would be pretty interesting to compare to the official poll when it comes out....id be happy to add it all up, if someone else gets the ball rolling with their picks...


We already have one, but we wait until January to put it out since most of us lack the wide-ranging knowledge to vote intelligently before games are actually played.
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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: ILive4This on October 26, 2007, 12:23:49 AM
do we think we could possibly put together a posters top 25, if everyone give their personal top 25, and we assign points as normal 25 down to 1, and then add it all together I think it would be pretty interesting to compare to the official poll when it comes out....id be happy to add it all up, if someone else gets the ball rolling with their picks...


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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Hoops Fan on October 26, 2007, 08:27:44 AM
Quote from: ILive4This on October 26, 2007, 12:23:49 AM
do we think we could possibly put together a posters top 25, if everyone give their personal top 25, and we assign points as normal 25 down to 1, and then add it all together I think it would be pretty interesting to compare to the official poll when it comes out....id be happy to add it all up, if someone else gets the ball rolling with their picks...


We already have one, but we wait until January to put it out since most of us lack the wide-ranging knowledge to vote intelligently before games are actually played.

Don't worry guys - I'm on it like white on rice!  Already recruited ILive4This (by PM) as a new voter come January!