Top 25 talk

hugenerd · December 11, 2007, 07:38:33 PM

Quote from: frank uible on December 11, 2007, 07:16:18 PM
If UMD is truly good and if it is self- confident as a truly good team should be, then it should not care about what others think of it.

You must live in a fantasy world. I am pretty sure evreyone cares what others think to some level. Do you not want a promotion at work? If you played basketball, would you not want a player of the year or all-conference award? There are a lot of things that depend on what other people think that we would all want to have. I am not saying being ranked in the week 3 rankings is at the top of that list, but that argument is not a good one.

David Collinge · December 11, 2007, 07:55:22 PM

For whatever it may be worth, UMD did receive 27 points from the voters (as sac points out.) That means that at least some (and perhaps all) of the poll voters agree that the Corsairs should be among the top 25--that's the only way to receive points. Twenty-seven points is the equivalent of being #25 on 23 ballots and #24 on the other two. Since it's not likely that they appeared on all 25 ballots (there's no way I could know this), it follows that there probably were at least some voters who had them in the teens or low twenties. In my book, that's respect.

(I don't mean to be pedantic, especially when regards hugenerd and his huge calculator

, since I know he understands this process. I'm just not always certain that everyone does, so I apologize to anyone who feels like I'm talking down to them.)

frank uible · December 11, 2007, 09:01:04 PM

I may live in a fantasy world, but nonetheless I don't care what most others think of me - certainly not those who might vote in some poll.

David Collinge · December 11, 2007, 09:12:26 PM

HOW THEY FARED (week of Dec. 10-16)

#   1   Rochester (8-0) won at Rochester Tech. 80-70 and hosts St. John Fisher Fri.
#   2   Brandeis (9-1) def. Curry 78-67
#   3   UW-Stevens Point (6-1) won at Viterbo 91-83, plays at Edgewood Wed., and plays at Ripon Sat.
#   4   Amherst (6-1) plays at Lasell Wed.
#   5   Mary Hardin-Baylor (3-0) plays at Incarnate Word Wed. and plays at Texas-Tyler Sat.
#   6   Guilford (4-1) is idle
#   7   Williams (7-0) is idle (until Dec. 29)
#   8   Hope (5-1) is idle
#   9   Augustana (6-1) hosts Cornell Wed. and plays at #13 UW-Oshkosh Sat.
#   10   Puget Sound (6-0) is idle (until Dec. 28)
#   11   UW-Whitewater (5-1) is idle
#   12   Washington U. (7-2) won at Fontbonne 73-57 and hosts Coe Sat.
#   13   UW-Oshkosh (7-0) hosts #9 Augustana Sat.
#   14   Plattsburgh St. (6-0) is idle
#   15   Capital (7-1) plays at Muskingum Sat.
#   16   Stevens (8-0) is idle (until Jan. 4)
#   17   Brockport St. (4-1) is idle (until Jan. 2)
#   18   Virginia Wesleyan (4-2) is idle
#   19   Lewis & Clark (3-2) is idle
#   20   Wheaton (IL) (7-1) is idle (until Dec. 29)
#   21   Elmhurst (3-1) hosts Mt. St. Joseph Sat.
#   22   Trinity (TX) (6-0) is idle
#   23   Wooster (4-2) hosts Walsh Sat.
#   24   Calvin (4-3) hosts Trinity Christian Sat.
#   25   Rhode Island Coll. (7-1) won at Trinity (CT) 70-68 and plays at Springfield Fri.

Mr. Ypsi · December 11, 2007, 10:58:25 PM

Well, 4-0 so far, and 13 teams now idle for at least the rest of the week. Will the voters get a chance to just write 'ditto' on last week's ballots, or will all hell break loose later?

David Collinge · December 11, 2007, 11:05:19 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 11, 2007, 10:58:25 PM
Well, 4-0 so far, and 13 teams now idle for at least the rest of the week. Will the voters get a chance to just write 'ditto' on last week's ballots, or will all hell break loose later?

5-0. Stevens Point played and won last night, and tonight's winners were Rochester, Brandeis, Wash. U., and RIC, who won a thriller over Trinity. I love video webcasting!

Ralph Turner · December 11, 2007, 11:09:21 PM

Quote from: David Collinge on December 11, 2007, 11:05:19 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 11, 2007, 10:58:25 PM
Well, 4-0 so far, and 13 teams now idle for at least the rest of the week. Will the voters get a chance to just write 'ditto' on last week's ballots, or will all hell break loose later?

5-0. Stevens Point played and won last night, and tonight's winners were Rochester, Brandeis, Wash. U., and RIC, who won a thriller over Trinity. I love video webcasting!

It is making the world of D-III that much smaller!

Isn't it great!

Mr. Ypsi · December 11, 2007, 11:12:27 PM

David,

You must forgive me - I taught statistics, not counting.

4-0 is probably within the margin of error of 5-0.

David Collinge · December 11, 2007, 11:24:41 PM

You're forgiven; and anyway the fault is as much mine as yours. I need to come up with an alternate formatting technique so one can more easily pick out the few scores from the sea of "idle"s. I knew there were five results in there (since I put them in there), and still had trouble picking them out.

EDIT: There--is that better?

LogShow · December 11, 2007, 11:32:35 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 11, 2007, 10:58:25 PM
Well, 4-0 so far, and 13 teams now idle for at least the rest of the week. Will the voters get a chance to just write 'ditto' on last week's ballots, or will all hell break loose later?

This down time in the season really kills the basketball buzz. There is nothing to watch, nothing to read about, my team is idle till the 28th. Even College Football, is idle. Just get me to Jan, league play starts and thats when things get interesting. Until till then I will just have to watch NBA games, pause not!

Mr. Ypsi · December 11, 2007, 11:38:21 PM

David,

Definitely better for now (even I might have counted 5!), but I wonder if it will get cluttered in a 'normal' week? You may be better off leaving it as before. (If my kids were 10 years younger I could probably still count, though I might never have the time to come online!)

Gregory Sager · December 12, 2007, 01:42:52 AM

Quote from: LogShow on December 11, 2007, 11:32:35 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 11, 2007, 10:58:25 PM
Well, 4-0 so far, and 13 teams now idle for at least the rest of the week. Will the voters get a chance to just write 'ditto' on last week's ballots, or will all hell break loose later?

This down time in the season really kills the basketball buzz. There is nothing to watch, nothing to read about, my team is idle till the 28th. Even College Football, is idle. Just get me to Jan, league play starts and thats when things get interesting. Until till then I will just have to watch NBA games, pause not!

You officially qualify as a hoops junkie, LogShow. The vast majority of Americans are anxiously awaiting the joys of Christmas ... while you're anxiously awaiting the first weekend in January.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · December 12, 2007, 07:32:58 AM

Quote from: hugenerd on December 11, 2007, 10:27:49 AM
I think it means more to the players, however, and that is who it is most unfair to. At the end of the season, the week 3 poll isnt going to mean much, but right now I am sure the guys at UMD feel like they deserve some respect.

Hmm... from what I have re-read... I still stand behind my comment.
"...but right now I am sure the guys at UMD feel like they deserve some respect."

Peddler · December 12, 2007, 11:02:19 AM

Emerson College at 7-0 after a big win against MIT last night. They should be in the top 25.

smedindy · December 12, 2007, 12:29:51 PM

I don't think Emerson's body of work is all that, though they have handed the only loss to three teams (William Patterson, Vassar, Wheaton (MA)). They're currently 32nd, and if they keep it up they will be ranked. But are they better than the two and three loss teams in the Top 25? I don't think so.