Top 25 talk

[ILive4This]

It will be interesting to see if Brandeis stays put, or drops directly below Amherst a team they beat, and have an equal amount of losses as. Also I would expect UMD to break into the top 10 this week, perhaps convincingly so. One would think after the win against Brandeis that is where the deserved to be, but in this world you have to slowly climb your way up the ladder, as other teams drop, and that is what they have done.

[LU 05]

beating a 500. d2 at their place will never count in regional rankings granted, but why cant that count as a GOOD win for the purposes of the top 25 poll?

[Pat Coleman]

Massey ranks Nova Southeatern as 185th out of 279 in Division II. Nova's .201 rating is the same as Coe's and is just behind University of Chicago.

[Greek Tragedy]

beating a 500. d2 at their place will never count in regional rankings granted, but why cant that count as a GOOD win for the purposes of the top 25 poll?

I didn't comment on those teams they played down there because I don't know anything about them and I was too lazy to look up their records! lol...

I do think results that don't count in regional rankings (or non d3 games for that matter) do "count" in terms of the Top 25 poll.  If a team loses to a very good D2 team, it's not really taken into account as a bad loss simply because it was a loss.

[scottiedawg]

Top Vote Getting Movers

+7 Middlebury
+6 Mass Darmouth
+6 Centre
+6 Virginia Wesleyan
+6 Randolph Macon
+6 Roanoke
+6 Elizabethtown
+5 Milsaps
+5 Aurora
-4 Puget Sound
-4 UW Oshkosh
-4 Wheaton
-4 Wooster
-6 Stevens
-6 Nazareth
-9 Guilford
-11 Mary Hardin Baylor

This ignores teams that went from zero votes to some votes (Whitworth, Lawerence, Carthage, Gustavus Adolphus, NYU, Trinity Conn), and those that went from some votes to zero votes (Carnegie Mellon, Lewis and Clark, Trinity TX, DeSales, Salem St., Defiance).

And thanks to Mr. Ypsi for keeping me on the straight and narrow after some errors last week.

[MR. PAC]

Elizabethtown isn't that good.They won't be in the top 25 that long.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Exactly, how do you figure? 13-1 and just crushed DeSales. Their only lost coming on York's (Pa.) home court - not a great loss, but their only one.

So... why do you say they aren't that good? Pretty straight forward comment with no backing, it seems.

[LogShow]

Puget Sound did drop and they deserved it, nothing suprising about that.  Glad that they didn't slide farther then 11th.  Hopefully they will get back on the winning track this weekend and continue to climb back up the polls.

[LogShow]

Also, I like that Brandeis did not drop.  They lost to #1 on their home court, I think the voters definately got that one right.

[LU 05]

Massey ranks Nova Southeatern as 185th out of 279 in Division II. Nova's .201 rating is the same as Coe's and is just behind University of Chicago.

If we are going to use Massey as a meaningful barometer of teams, Does Lawrence's rank of 10 legitamize it for the top 25 poll?

[Ralph Turner]

Massey ranks Nova Southeatern as 185th out of 279 in Division II. Nova's .201 rating is the same as Coe's and is just behind University of Chicago.

If we are going to use Massey as a meaningful barometer of teams, Does Lawrence's rank of 10 legitimize it for the top 25 poll?

Massey MOV has the Larrys at #7.       

[sac]

It would appear the ODAC schools may be underrated.

[Pat Coleman]

It's a lot easier to be 20 spots off on Lawrence than to be 100 spots off and make Nova a strong opponent.

[Ralph Turner]

Massey ranks Nova Southeatern as 185th out of 279 in Division II. Nova's .201 rating is the same as Coe's and is just behind University of Chicago.

If we are going to use Massey as a meaningful barometer of teams, Does Lawrence's rank of 10 legitamize it for the top 25 poll?

The Larrys play Oshkosh on Tuesday.

I calculate by Massey that the Larrys should win by (69.92-67.35=) 2.57 points at home.

We can see.   

[nwhoops1903]

I apologize for not knowing but do the voters look at Massey MOV or non MOV primarily?