Top 25 talk

[magicman]

DC

Get the red ink out for Williams and Lawrence when you do your updates.

I knew I was making a mistake when I started this color thing...

[LogShow]

There is going to be red ink all over the place

[Mr. Ypsi]

David, I'm pretty sure it is not completely unprecedented, but how rare is it for #1 to lose two games the same week?

[fcnews]

#1 Amhearst , #2 UM-D, #3 Augustana, #4 UW-Whitewater and #5 Rochester. 6-11, Brandies, Wash U, Centre, Hope, Puget and Capital (pick an order for these 5). UW-Stevens Point and V. Wesleyan (?)

[scottiedawg]

My opinion, top 8

1. UMD
2. Rochester
3. Amherst
4. Hope
5. UWSP
6. Brandeis
7. WashU
8. Augustana

UMD should get to #1, undefeated, have a win over Brandeis, even though they have played a weak schedule

Rochester-still only has two losses, two very quality wins over Brandeis and WashU

Amherst-easily could be #2, also two losses, less quality wins, better quality losses than UR

Hope-only three losses in spite of a weaker schedule

UWSP, Brandeis, WashU, Augustana-all with four losses, very strong schedules, and quality wins; any could easily be picked above Hope

I would love some expert opinion, since I am new to all of this.

[scottiedawg]

#1 Amhearst , #2 UM-D, #3 Augustana, #4 UW-Whitewater and #5 Rochester. 6-11, Brandies, Wash U, Centre, Hope, Puget and Capital (pick an order for these 5). UW-Stevens Point and V. Wesleyan (?)

Whitewater, Centre, and Capital have played very weak schedules

and VWC is about to lose to Guilford

Another big shakeup weeks, this poll is beginning to look like the BCS

[sac]

My opinion, top 8

1. UMD
2. Rochester
3. Amherst
4. Hope
5. UWSP
6. Brandeis
7. WashU
8. Augustana

UMD should get to #1, undefeated, have a win over Brandeis, even though they have played a weak schedule

Rochester-still only has two losses, two very quality wins over Brandeis and WashU

Amherst-easily could be #2, also two losses, less quality wins, better quality losses than UR

Hope-only three losses in spite of a weaker schedule

UWSP, Brandeis, WashU, Augustana-all with four losses, very strong schedules, and quality wins; any could easily be picked above Hope

I would love some expert opinion, since I am new to all of this.

Coming into this week, the schedule rankings according to Massey

UMD-#126
Rochester--#65
Amherst--#34
Hope---#62
UWSP--#12
Brandeis--#10
WashU--#21
Augustana--#4

[Mr. Ypsi]

#1 Amhearst , #2 UM-D, #3 Augustana, #4 UW-Whitewater and #5 Rochester. 6-11, Brandies, Wash U, Centre, Hope, Puget and Capital (pick an order for these 5). UW-Stevens Point and V. Wesleyan (?)

Whitewater, Centre, and Capital have played very weak schedules

and VWC is about to lose to Guilford

Another big shakeup weeks, this poll is beginning to look like the BCS

Whitewater is in the freakin' WIAC!

A WIAC team could do their entire non-con schedule against the Little Sisters of the Blind and their schedule (by February) could not be called weak. 

[David Collinge]

HOW THEY FARED (week of Jan. 28 - Feb. 3)(COMPLETE)       
      
#   1   Washington U. (14-4) lost at #3 Rochester 73-70 (OT) and lost at Carnegie Mellon 86-55
#   2   Amherst (18-2) def. Colby 72-66 and def. Bowdoin 85-79
#   3   Rochester (16-2) def. #1 Washington U. 73-70 (OT) and lost to Chicago 74-65
#   4   Hope (15-3) def. Tri-State 93-60 and lost at Albion 56-52
#   5   Mass.-Dartmouth (19-0) def. Mass.-Boston 102-73 and def. So. Maine 88-69
#   6   Capital (16-3) lost at Wilmington 72-55 and def. John Carroll 113-78
#   7   Puget Sound (15-3) def. Pacific 90-65 and lost to George Fox 78-77
#   8   UW-Whitewater (16-3) def. UW-La Crosse 80-67 and def. UW-Eau Claire 85-65
#   9   Brandeis (14-4) won at Case Western Reserve 90-75 and won at Emory 89-81
#   10   Augustana (15-4) won at Illinois Wesleyan 65-61 and won at #21 Elmhurst 72-63
#   11   Centre (18-1) won at Trinity (TX) 78-69 (OT) and won at Southwestern 59-49
#   12   UW-Stevens Point (15-4) won at UW-River Falls 71-40
#   13   Williams (15-5) lost at Hamilton 60-56 and lost to Middlebury 63-60
#   14   Virginia Wesleyan (15-4) won at Hampden-Sydney 81-62, def. Emory & Henry 111-98, and lost to #23 Guilford 75-67
#   15   Mary Hardin-Baylor (15-3) won at Schreiner 77-67 and def. Texas Lutheran 75-54
#   16   Plattsburgh St. (17-2) won at Potsdam St. 87-70, won at Oneonta St. 70-56, and won at New Paltz St. 78-65
#   17   Stevens (17-3) lost at Baruch 75-71 (OT), def. Nazareth 76-73, and def. RIT 84-70
#   18   Wooster (16-3) won at Allegheny 78-61 and def. Ohio Wesleyan 73-65
#   19   Lawrence (14-2) won at St. Norbert 65-56 and lost to Carroll 115-113 (2 OT)
#   20   UW-Oshkosh (14-6) lost at #22 UW-Platteville 71-55 and won at UW-Stout 78-61
#   21   Elmhurst (14-5) won at North Central (IL) 78-72 and lost to #10 Augustana 72-63
#   22   UW-Platteville (15-4) def. #20 UW-Oshkosh 71-55 and won at UW-River Falls 71-60
#   23   Guilford (14-4) won at Randolph-Macon 69-51 and won at #14 Virginia Wesleyan 75-67
#   24   Wheaton (IL) (14-5) def. Millikin 67-51 and lost to North Central (IL) 80-73
#   25   St. Thomas (16-3) won at Hamline 92-75 and won at Carleton 71-64

[smedindy]

Whitewater, Centre, and Capital have played very weak schedules

Eh, what? Whitewater is in the WIAC and Capital is in the OAC. Those aren't easy. Both are in the top 60 of Massey SOS. The only two down teams Capital played were Illinois College and Denison. Those who think Kenyon is a patsy have not seen them this year.

[Greek Tragedy]

Thanks, fixed!  Nine-team leagues really test my schedule-reading-comprehesions skills, and I frequently fail the test. ...dc

Actually, I think it's the easiest league to follow.  Wednesday and Saturday games.  That's it with one team with a bye.  Some leagues have one game on one night, two games on another night and then all the teams (even ones that played earlier in the week) all on Saturday...CRAZY I SAY! lol

[ILive4This]

I think Amherst moves up to #1, with UMD #2 (Although I have a feeling if they are going to lose in the regular season, the corsairs will pick up that loss this week, with two tough games on the road, and the toughest conference opponent at home all in a short span). As for the UAA, I think Rochester sits at 3, Wash U is at 4 and Brandeis at 7/8. I also think Chicago should get into the poll this week, after not even picking up a vote with a win At Brandeis last week. Now they have defeated Brandeis AND Rochester on the Road, and are in a three-way tie for the UAA lead at 5-2 with Rochester and Wash U.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Interesting point with Chicago that I have been mulling over. But I am having trouble with their six overall loses with one being to Loras and the other to Carnegie Mellon (yes, I am very aware CM just beat Rochester!).

With such parity in the Top 25 and much of the rest of the nation... it might be tough to get the Maroons in the Top 25 this week. There are just SO many choices and arguements for teams in the Top 25!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Thanks, fixed!  Nine-team leagues really test my schedule-reading-comprehesions skills, and I frequently fail the test. ...dc

Actually, I think it's the easiest league to follow.  Wednesday and Saturday games.  That's it with one team with a bye.  Some leagues have one game on one night, two games on another night and then all the teams (even ones that played earlier in the week) all on Saturday...CRAZY I SAY! lol

ONE of the easier - CCIW also has only W and Sa games (barring weather!), but ALL the teams are on tap!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Dave, I'd agree.  No way (IMO) does UC jump all the way from no votes to top 25, but we will probably see a reappearance of CM.