South Region playoffs

[Ron Boerger]

UMHB, they do like road games there in Belton, don't they!

If, DPU won the SCAC, and Trinity did not get the Pool C, and ETBU/UMHB/HPU folded, then what does the HSU bracket look like?  Where do you seed HSU?   On top and flying up to 3 teams into Abilene?

One other queston for someone with a Streets and Trips...

I think that Huntingdon in Montgomery is just under 500 miles from ETBU in Marshall TX by the way that I would drive it.  Am I correct? 

As long as HSU wins out, the Cowboys have to be a #1.  I don't think even the NCAA is dumb greedy stupid east-coast biased foolish enough to screw that up.  If they have to fly everyone in there, they fly everyone in there.  Otherwise they have to fly HSU everywhere and what's the difference from a $$ viewpoint?

As far as the rest of the question goes, Ralph, I don't know how you drive.     Mapquest says the distance between the campuses of ETBU and HC is 504.46 miles. 

[Ralph Turner]

Bonzo, I drive from Huntingdon to Marshall via Fairview Ave to I-65 southbound to westbound US Hwy 80 thru Selma to Cuba AL, then I-20 thru MS and LA to Marshall TX.

Actually, the odometer on my car is under 3.3 miles per 100, so that may be where I had the question.

In 2001, Trinity hosted #2 UMHB who received a Pool C bid and defeated them.

Thanks for the Streets and Maps.

That means that Huntingdon will probably fly anywhere it goes in the playoffs.

[Ron Boerger]

Should they qualify, that is.  They have to win the rest of the way (doesn't seem like it's going to be that difficult) and hope Trinity does too.  Trinity not getting in the playoffs won't help the Hawks' slim chances.

[Ralph Turner]

That means that Huntingdon will probably fly anywhere it goes in the playoffs.

Let me change that last sentence.

"That means that Huntingdon will probably fly anywhere it goes in the playoffs ever."

I don't think that the tectonic plate activity will move Marshall 5 miles closer to Huntingdon in the next century.

I also assume that Mapquest measures the itinerary that I stated.

[Llamaguy]

That means that Huntingdon will probably fly anywhere it goes in the playoffs.

Let me change that last sentence.

"That means that Huntingdon will probably fly anywhere it goes in the playoffs ever."

If ETBU & Huntingdon, a big if, both made the playoff, then I bet the NCAA would make a 4.46 mile clause to save thousands of dollars. And as far as ever , remember LaGrange enters DIII next year and a few years down the road may give Huntingdon somewhere to drive to. Although I believe they will be playing each other during the regular season.

[Pat Coleman]

Huntingdon to ETBU is 501.4 according to Streets & Trips' shortest possible distance setting.

Don't forget Millsaps and Mississippi College are also within 500 miles.

[Ralph Turner]

"That means that Huntingdon will probably fly anywhere it goes in the playoffs ever."

I guess I was displaying a degree of pessimism about the prospects of Millsaps and Mississippi College ever displacing Trinity/DePauw and HSU/ETBU/UMHB/HPU/et al. from the playoffs.

A likely Montgomery AL to Marshall TX itinerary would be a one stop flight from Montgomery via Memphis to DFW and a 4 hours bus ride to Marshall or Montgomery to Shreveport LA charter and 1 hour bus ride to ETBU.

Thanks for the Streets and Trips info.

[Toby Taff]

Ralph,

An easier trip would be to fly out of B'Ham and into Shreveport or Dallas.

[Llamaguy]

Week 7 South Region Watch Chart has been updated with new AFCA rankings. note: these rankings are not a primary or secondary critria in the NCAA's selection process

The South Region NCAA ranking will also be added as information
in a few weeks once the NCAA begins its listing.

[Llamaguy]

Week #7 Comparison

* ranking will be based on current QOWI w/in each loss column
@ - indicates teams eligible for Pool B bids


"0" D-III LOSS TEAMS  with (overall w/l) (regional w/l) QOWI

1.  TRINITY                  (5-0) (4-0)   12.50        D3 #10    AFCA #8
     WESLEY @              (7-0) (4-0)   12.50        D3 #22    AFCA #25   
3.  JOHNS HOPKINS        (6-0) (5-0)   11.20                     AFCA #15                 
4.  THIEL @                  (6-0) (6-0)   11.17        D3 #18   AFCA #20
5.  HARDIN-SIMMONS     (6-0) (5-0)   10.40        D3 # 3    AFCA #4
6.  FERRUM                   (7-0) (6-0)   10.33

"1" D-III LOSS TEAMS

1.   SALISBURY @            (5-1) (2-0)   14.50      D3 #17 
2.   WASH & LEE              (5-1) (4-1)   10.60
3.   ETBU                       (4-2) (4-1)      9.80
4.   WASH & JEFF @         (6-1) (4-1)     9.40     D3 # 16   AFCA #17
5.   BRIDGEWATER           (4-1) (3-1)      9.00     D3 #19    AFCA #14
6.   DEPAUW                   (4-1) (3-1)     8.75
7.   HUNTINGDON @         (5-1) (4-1)     8.60
8.   CENTRE                    (6-1) (4-1)     8.40
9.   UMHB                       (4-1) (3-1)     8.25      D3# 9     AFCA #10

* ETBU has only 1 in region loss and 1 loss to a D-II team, thus in the NCAA's eyes, a (4-1) D-III record.

"2" D-III LOSS TEAMS

1.   MCDANIEL                  (4-2) (3-2)    9.00
2.   HAMPDEN SYDNEY       (4-2) (4-2)    8.67
3.   ROSE-HULMAN           (5-2) (4-2)     8.00
4.   CNU                          (4-2) (3-1)    7.75
5.   METHODIST                (4-2) (4-2)    7.50
6.   THOMAS MORE @        (4-2) (4-2)    7.33
7.   MCMURRY                  (4-2) (3-2)     6.80

*CNU has only 1 in region loss & would be considered ahead of 2 regional loss teams based on NCAA Primary selection criteria

* Once a team has more than 2 losses in region they will drop from consideration as the season progresses. Note: Pool A (automatic qualifiers) will throw "a wrench" into the number of spots available in the South Region. Total spots available in the DIII Playoff Field = 32.


South Region (Pool A) Berths (Conference Champions w/ Auto-bids)

American Southwest Conference -
Centennial Conference -
Old Dominion Athletic Conference -
Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference -
USA South Athletic Conference -

* conference champions to be updated once official

[Ron Boerger]

Good work, Llama --- a couple of things:

1.  It's "Ferrum," not "Ferrem".   
2.  Rose-Hulman is 5-2 (4-2 in-region), so could be added to your list of two-loss SR teams.   Their QoWI is 8.00.

[Ralph Turner]

mhb8904,

An easier trip would be to fly out of B'Ham and into Shreveport or Dallas.

It is about 100 miles from Huntingdon to the Birmingham airport.

[Llamaguy]

Good work, Llama --- a couple of things:

1.  It's "Ferrum," not "Ferrem".   

Oops, my bad. I even live in VA and know them well.

2.  Rose-Hulman is 5-2 (4-2 in-region), so could be added to your list of two-loss SR teams.   Their QoWI is 8.00.

I actually noticed that today while comparing the remaining schedules of the competeing teams. Looks like they have big games at Centre and at home against DePauw.   Wouldn't want to leave anyone out though.

Thanks for the Heads-up! They have been corrected.

[Josh Bowerman]

Anyone besides me curious as to how the NCAA came to the decision to weight wins/losses in the QOWI the way they do?  Seems like setting the first bar at a .667 winning percentage is a bit low, to me.

I think a more accurate statistical picture of a teams' QOWI would be breaking down opponents at .750, .500 and .250--as the difference between a .500 winning percentage and a .667 winning percentage isn't even two full games.  And, it statistically favors teams that still only play nine games.

Just curious ramblings...

[badbadman]

Josh,

I've thought the %'s were odd as well.  They should probably be based on a 10 game season so .70, .50, and .30 make more sense.  Then again, excluding out of region games dosn't make sense to me either ...