South Region playoffs

[Ralph Turner]

I got this off of the NCAA website:

AD   Al Dorenkamp
  Central College (Iowa)   Iowa Intercol. Athletic Conf. SEP 2008 

  III       AD   Charles S. Harris
  Averett University   USA South Athletic Conference SEP 2007 


  III       CCD, Associate AD / Head Football Coach   Norman Eash
  Illinois Wesleyan University   College Conference of Illinois & Wisconsin SEP 2010 


  III       Commissioner   Kenneth Andrews
  Middle Atlantic States Collegiate Athletic Corp.   Middle Atlantic States Collegiate Athletic Corp. SEP 2008 


  III       Director of Men's Athletics, Compliance Director   Dick Kaiser
  Defiance College   Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference SEP 2009 


  III       Head Coach Football   Steve Mohr
  Trinity University (Texas)   Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference SEP 2009 


  III       Head Football Coach   Michael C. Maynard
  University of Redlands   Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conf. SEP 2010 


  III       Head Football Coach   Michael DeLong
  Springfield College   New England Women's & Men's Athletic Conference SEP 2010 

Is this the committee that seeded and set the playoffs?

Wait a second...

They are the committee!  I am not going to put that on them!  The NCAA has a large bureaucracy and administrative staff that is responsible for keeping the paperwork in line and in accordance with NCAA policy!  This is a large bureaucratic entity.  That is what they should excel at!  Paperwork and processes!

I don't expect those people (the coaches and administrators on the committee)  to have double-checked whether the database for mileage had been corrected from the previous to the msn.mappoint.com "shortest distance"  standard.  You have some administrative type writing in her/his family Christmas letter that s/he has this big job at the NCAA!  S/he is the one responsilbe for giving bad information to the committee members.

To name Steve Mohr (for example) as not executing his responsibilites in a professional fashion is just not right!  I am more inclined to think that Coach Mohr is angry at the SNAFU that occurred on his watch!  How many times have you sat on a big board meeting and wondered if the info in the board book was completely accurate?  That gives you a bad feeling in the pit of your stomach!

I am angry that Commisioner Burrow has not come out and said that the SNAFU resides in the D3 Championship Committee administrative team.

As I have said elsewhere, I will bet the administrative packets for every other D3 Championship Handbook and database were not corrected as well.  If some intern had his/her book (whether Field hockey or women's volleyball) corrected to the new mileage standard, then that intern needs a promotion! I just hope that the corrections are made in time for basketball!

[evacuee]

Where is everyone from Carnegie Mellon?  Are they too smart to pay attention to football?  Man, I wish I were.  Then maybe I wouldn't have driven 400 miles in one day to watch my team get steamrolled by Millsaps last weekend. 

I really hope Millsaps wins.  That way no one will be tricked into thinking the wing-t is a good offense for college football.  I'm also a fan of the school and the conference. 

[Zmotion10 out on 2]

I love the wing-t!  Especially if they mix in a little single wing.

[CMURyan]

BDTartan posts a lot (we're the CMU Tartans) and I follow along but don't get into the discussion too much.  We're not exactly a sports school, but there is still a fair amount of excitement regarding the game this weekend.

While I'm here, I'll make a point that I've wanted to make for a while.  CMU gets a bad rap on these boards because of the schedule.  We haven't played a tough schedule, but we've physically dominated every team we've played except for Wash U.  I listened to the broadcast of the Thiel game and the score doesn't indicate the one sidedness of it.  We controlled the ball and ate up clock for 3 and a half quarters.  A late two minute drill drive down 14 accounted for Thiel's only points.  Also, it hasn't been brought up anywhere that I've seen, but CMU not only is undefeated, but hasn't trailed a single minute all season.  I know that some of this is luck (who gets the ball first), but it's also indicative of how one sided the games have been (with the exception of Wash U, which was close the whole way).

As for the wing-t, I know that it is outdated by D1A standards where the linebackers are too fast, but CMU makes it work for D3.  It takes a strong O line, a bruising but quick fullback, and at least one fast wing back, all of which we have.  It isn't gimicky or anything like that.  It's all about ball control.  Keep the defense off the field, avoid turnovers and grind out yards.  Also works well in Western PA where the rainy and cold Octobers and Novembers can make passing tough.

[Bob.Gregg]

BDTartan posts a lot....

Really?  We hadn't noticed.....j/k.  Glad to have him, and you, around.

...We're not exactly a sports school, but there is still a fair amount of excitement regarding the game this weekend.

The rumored faculty walkout due to overemphasizing of football should be exciting...

... As for the wing-t...works well in Western PA where the rainy and cold Octobers and Novembers can make passing tough.

That would explain CMU's nearly annual appearance in the D-III playoffs.

...CMU not only is undefeated, but hasn't trailed a single minute all season.  I know that some of this is luck (who gets the ball first), but it's also indicative of how one sided the games have been (with the exception of Wash U, which was close the whole way).

THAT is an impressive point.

Here's one more impressive Mellon point for you...
CMU opponents have scored a combined 44 points in the first three quarters ALL season.  CMU has scored that many in EACH of the first three quarters.

SCORE BY QUARTERS     1st  2nd  3rd  4th  OT     Total
--------------------  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---      ---
Carnegie Mellon.....        62  106   44   72    3  -   287
Opponents...........        14   17    13   38    0  -    82

[Bob.Gregg]

Common sense?  Right!

Anyway, I just got word (can't tell you where) that had Trinity won, the W&J/CMU game would have happened.

Trying to understand what that would have meant, but how's this:

#1  Wesley hosting # 8 Dickinson
#2  Trinity hosting #4 HSU
#3  UMHB hosting #6 CNU
#5  CMU hosting #7 W&J

[CMURyan]

Yes, the faculty are up in arms about the rumors of the 10 year, $10 million contract extension that we're going to give Rich Lackner.  I know that we haven't made the playoffs in a while, but the athletic department does brag about having something like 30 straight years without a losing season. 

The stat that Bob mentioned more or less proves the point.  By the fourth quarter we almost always have the second string in, which is why the point differential isn't quite as ridiculous for that quarter.

[Bob.Gregg]

Ryan,

I post in jest, as you may or may not know.

My brother is a Mellon alum, back before they sold the bank.  Of course, being a "paying customer" we had to rob the bank to send him there....

In fact, I think the last losing season for CMU (1974) was when by brother was there.  I guess they needed that little extra scratch to push them over the top.

Seriously, good luck to the Tartans.  Stick around a while.

By the way, I believe the Presidents have several open dates down the road.  Perhaps Rich would be interested.  Ehhh, on second thought, he probably wouldn't.  Never was before.

[CMURyan]

Oh no...I got that...hence the contract comment.  But, the 30 straight non-losing seasons was the athletic department's claim to fame when I toured here (now a junior).

[exmajor]

Here's one more impressive Mellon point for you...
CMU opponents have scored a combined 44 points in the first three quarters ALL season.  CMU has scored that many in EACH of the first three quarters.

SCORE BY QUARTERS     1st  2nd  3rd  4th  OT     Total
--------------------  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---      ---
Carnegie Mellon.....        62  106   44   72    3  -   287
Opponents...........        14   17    13   38    0  -    82

Just for comparison, here is the same stat for Millsaps:

SCORE BY QUARTERS     1st  2nd  3rd  4th    Total
--------------------  ---  ---  ---  ---      ---
Millsaps College....  117   57   71   85  -   330
Opponents...........   55   43   50   56  -   204

[Ron Boerger]

Common sense?  Right!

Anyway, I just got word (can't tell you where) that had Trinity won, the W&J/CMU game would have happened.

Trying to understand what that would have meant, but how's this:

#1  Wesley hosting # 8 Dickinson
#2  Trinity hosting #4 HSU
#3  UMHB hosting #6 CNU
#5  CMU hosting #7 W&J

Here's what I think:  the committee had already pencilled in a "W" for Trinity - then when Millsaps won, they freaked out, figured that a little school in Bohunk, MS* had to be more than 500 miles from anyone, and went with their very poorly thought-out plan B.  These guys probably couldn't even find MS on a map. 

* - I don't equate Jackson to Bohunk, but we are talking about the NCAA.

[Rick Akins]

I agree, Ron about the presumed Trinity win. Plan B was very poorly thought out as we have all realized and commented--even if the ncaa has not acknowledged, or  worse, refuses to admit, its mistake.

[Ralph Turner]

Common sense?  Right!

Anyway, I just got word (can't tell you where) that had Trinity won, the W&J/CMU game would have happened.

Trying to understand what that would have meant, but how's this:

#1  Wesley hosting # 8 Dickinson
#2  Trinity hosting #4 HSU
#3  UMHB hosting #6 CNU
#5  CMU hosting #7 W&J

Here's what I think:  the committee had already pencilled in a "W" for Trinity - then when Millsaps won, they freaked out, figured that a little school in Bohunk, MS* had to be more than 500 miles from anyone, and went with their very poorly thought-out plan B.  These guys probably couldn't even find MS on a map. 

* - I don't equate Jackson to Bohunk, but we are talking about the NCAA.

Ron, I do not think that you are not giving enough credit to Trinity Head Coach Mohr, who sits on the national committee.

I think that the problem lies with the database of Millsaps mileage.

If Millsaps can be bussed to Belton, then you can fly a lower seed to HSU.

Also, Keith makes very clear today in the ATN that the national committee did not share the final regional rankings with D3football!!!

[K-Mack]

You have to believe they looked at the matchups as they were seeded first and then intentionally changed it.

I don't see what's so unbelievable about them using the wrong mileage counter scenario.

That's the only thing that seems to make sense out of an otherwise nonsensical event.

[Josh Bowerman]

Keith, we don't think it's unbelievable.  We think it's unacceptable.