South Region playoffs

[Ron Boerger]

UMHB was No. 17 in the QoWI, CNU 18.
They did play head-to-head, although it was a five-point loss at CNU in Game 1 for UMHB and Game 2 for CNU.

UMHB had a win vs. a regionally-ranked opponent (Hardin-Simmons), as did CNU (UMHB). And if UMHB also got credit for playing an oppoent ranked in a different region and losing, CNU would do the same.

I don't see any other reason why the head-to-head result would be ignored.

You kinda got jobbed, but then again a home game is nice for a two-loss five seed. Don't lose to NCW and I think you're the 2 seed, hands down.

Maybe b/c most people realize that the h2h in UMHB's first game is basically meaningless at this point of the season, and that since then, UMHB faced stiffer competition and played them better than did CNU.  A four-point loss to UWW vs a 12-point loss to NCW?  C'mon, Keith.  I know you've been beating the "CNU is better than UMHB b/c they beat them in Week 2" drum all season, but results since then point to it being a fluke. 

I agree that CNU going 9-1 makes the case for them being a #2.  8-2 with a loss to a non-playoff team and a thrashing at the hands of Rowan puts them squarely where they belong.   

[Bob.Gregg]

If the coaches see the possibililty of the bracket that Pat projected last Saturday night, and Millsaps to UMHB is a "bussable" game, then we see #7 Millsaps to #2 UMHB. We see #4 CMU hosting #5 W&J (great local game and the potential for lots of fan, alum, and student interest) and #3 HSU hosting #6 CNU.

The only problem with that, Ralph, is that CNU is #5, not #6.

That throws out the W&J/CMU game, and delivers CNU at CMU.  

#6 W&J heads to HSU.

[Rikki_Tikki_Tavi]

Fluke huh, verrrrry interesting.

I hope CNU and UMHB meet again in the second round and can prove to the all mighty that the game wasn't a fluke.

[Ralph Turner]

If the coaches see the possibililty of the bracket that Pat projected last Saturday night, and Millsaps to UMHB is a "bussable" game, then we see #7 Millsaps to #2 UMHB. We see #4 CMU hosting #5 W&J (great local game and the potential for lots of fan, alum, and student interest) and #3 HSU hosting #6 CNU.

The only problem with that, Ralph, is that CNU is #5, not #6.

That throws out the W&J/CMU game, and delivers CNU at CMU.  

#6 W&J heads to HSU.

Bob, I was referring to Pat's projected bracket from the Daily Dose.

If the Committee had known that Millsaps was a bus trip to Belton, I think that they would have bussed them there.

That takes the #2-#7 game out.

Then I think that they put W&J and CMU together as a plausible #4-#5 game.  (W&J is ahead of CNU in the November 8th regional rankings.)

Thanks and good luck vs CNU!

[Bob.Gregg]

W&J is ahead of CNU in the November 8th regional rankings.)

I dealt with this earlier.  That ranking is without reason.  And the National Committee, correctly, corrected it.

Same in-region record
CNU had win over common regional opponent that W&J lost to
CNU had win over regionally ranked team.  W&J did not.

There is NO way the final rankings had CNU behind the Presidents.  And the earlier regional rankings shouldn't have either.

Or the NCAA should just go back to the 'good ol' boys' rankings and forget publishing any criteria, primary or otherwise.

[Ron Boerger]

Fluke huh, verrrrry interesting.

I hope CNU and UMHB meet again in the second round and can prove to the all mighty that the game wasn't a fluke.

I too hope they meet, for the exact opposite reason.   I've got years and years of watching D3 playoffs going, how about you?  Not to mention the Texas teams are cumulatively tired of their near-perennial playoff punching bag (that would be W&J). 

So go ahead, folks, keep dropping the ol' karma.  God forbid someone have an opinion that's different than yours. 

[Ralph Turner]

W&J is ahead of CNU in the November 8th regional rankings.)

I dealt with this earlier.  That ranking is without reason.  And the National Committee, correctly, corrected it.

Same in-region record
CNU had win over common regional opponent that W&J lost to
CNU had win over regionally ranked team.  W&J did not.

There is NO way the final rankings had CNU behind the Presidents.  And the earlier regional rankings shouldn't have either.

Or the NCAA should just go back to the 'good ol' boys' rankings and forget publishing any criteria, primary or otherwise.

Thanks, Bob, for the clarification.

I had missed that.

Good luck to the Presidents.

[Olinemom]

Didn't know exactly where to post this, but this seems to be as good as place as any.

I notice that the Wesley and UWW brackets contain 8 of the nation's top 10 teams according to D3.  With only Capital standing in Mt. Union's way in their bracket and the east teams all knocking each other off in the Wilkes bracket it seems to me like Mt. Union has a much, much easier road to the Stagg Bowl than any other top 10 team.

I could be wrong, but it looks fishy to me with Wesley, HSU, and UMHB in the Wesley bracket and St. John's, UWW, Whitworth, and Central in the UWW bracket.

I realize travel implications have much to do with it, but that's like telling Mt. - "Not only are you the team everybody is gunning for, but you get help because of your location."

almost every year it works out just like that, although 2 years ago UMHB burst their bubble up in Alliance.

[dsc]

olinemom


VERY fishy!!!

(It always seems to be the case, huh?)

[Olinemom]

olinemom


VERY fishy!!!

(It always seems to be the case, huh?)

I truly think you all and the Crusaders have been mistreated so many times in the past and this year is no exception!!!  There really is no excuse not to send Millsaps down to Tejas (spelling meant) to UMHB and probably CNU down to you guys.  I know Llamaguy is happy because he gets to go see a game in VA. but I have to go to a concert tomorrow for the nephew who's in a talent contest. (in the middle of the play offs, I ask you, why??)  But I think your all's game later today should be a huge game, and there have been some great ones down in your league this year.  I listened to the one when my "other team" came down and you beat them.  I wasn't too happy that day, but any team can beat any other team on any given day.  You all did a great job that day and the Cats weren't up to snuff.  Now UMHB is one of my teams as well.  Sorry, what can I say?  I met them 2 years ago when they came to the Stagg Bowl and ate my brownies.  I met their fans as well.  So if you all make it this far, you will get the brownies as I make brownies for both teams that make it to the Stagg Bowl and for the fans that support both teams at the tailgate that we at Stone Station host.  At any rate, have a great day of football, while those of us with withdrawal just pine away and mourn!   We'll get over it--in time for the Stagg Bowl for sure.    And now it's time to hit the hay!! (Of course I said that 2 hours ago.)

[CNU85]

Bob,

congrats on the win. How was the atmosphere? facilities? Did you enjoy yuour stay? Of course leaving with a W helps a lot. It was goo dmeeting you. Hope you make it back safely!

[Ralph Turner]

BDTartan, congratualtions on the win over Millsaps.  You shut down the Millsaps offense!

Good luck at Wesley!

Right now, Coach Lackner is one of my candidates for National Coach of the Year.  About the only other candidate that I can think of would be someone other than Larry Kehres winning the Stagg!

[Bob.Gregg]

Bob,

congrats on the win. How was the atmosphere? facilities? Did you enjoy yuour stay? Of course leaving with a W helps a lot. It was goo dmeeting you. Hope you make it back safely!

85, nice to meet you today.  The box is nice, one of the nicest we've worked in.

Had we not had trouble pre-game with our phone line, we've have opened the box window and enjoyed the atmosphere.  But I thought it was more important that our audience hear the game, even if we couldn't give them any crowd sound.

The trip home was uneventful, with the exception of some very colorful language from my broadcast partner (OSU alum) at various times during the Buckeyes win!...

[Ron Boerger]

Congrats to CMU on the big win today and good luck against Wesley.   You will find them to be much larger and much faster (at most positions, anyway) than Millsaps.  Good luck next week!

And to Millsaps - it's a tough way to end the season, but if anyone had offered the Majors the chance to represent the conference in the playoffs before the season, you would have taken it, no questions asked.  You EARNED your way in and now know better what to expect the next time the opportunity comes around.  Congratulations on a fine season!

[BDTartan]

The congratulations deserve to go to those players and coaches at CMU not me.  All I did was sit in the stands and cheer them on.  I am extremely happy with the win, but I must say after speaking with people about Millsaps I was stunned to watch the CMU defense shut down the Millsaps offense.  I believe Millsaps only had one redzone appearance and was picked off immediately after they got there.  For the most part CMU just let them have 5 and 10 yard outs, but everything else they had their clamps on.

Congrats to CMU and on to Wesley!!  Go Tartans!