South Region playoffs

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Bill McCabe


Llamaguy

Quote from: Hug on October 23, 2005, 10:24:58 PM
We won't know diddly until CNU plays Ferrum. If Ferrum wins, they stay home for a first round game. If CNU wins, I believe the coin flip winner will travel to Texas.

Thoughts?

I agree with you 100% Hug. A Johns Hopkins loss to Hampden Sydney and a Salisbury loss to Wesley certainly wouldn't hurt Bridgewater's cause to stay in the Northern half of the South Region Playoff bracket.

True RM;however, should CNU win the coin toss then CNU is Pool A with a qowi=7.60. Not to mention they are closer geographically to Texas. ;)

CNU at Ferrum Nov.12th
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Bill McCabe

When do the regional rankings come out?

historymajor


Llamaguy

Quote from: historymajor on October 24, 2005, 09:56:37 AM
This week, I think...

Wednesday. They will be listed on the Comparison chart once out.

For those of you who haven't found it, the West region has a similar chart posted. Looks like they have 15 or so 1 and zero loss teams left and Whitworth may be a strong B/C as well. Looks like 2 regional losses has you sitting home for sure if you don't get a Pool A this year.
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Ralph Turner

Llamaguy, it was your outline that was adopted by the West Region in conjunction with the NCAA's emphasis on identification and adoption of "Best Practices".

I hope that the President of the President's Council of D-III, the Bridgewater College President Phillip C Stone, is impressed with your demonstartion of your BC education! ;)

Llamaguy

Yeah Ralph, Dr. Stone is good For Bridgewater, but even better for Division III athletics. He is a great guy with a definite handle on the DIII values and experience. ;)

As for the format, next week I will probably begin tweaking it with your suggestion of using Primary critria, big wins, etc. I believe unless alot of 1 loss teams lose this week, the 2 loss bracket will fall by the wayside.
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Hug

#6 Salisbury @ #2 Theil
#7 BC @ #3 UJH

#8 UMHB @ #1 Trinity
#5 Hardin Simmons @ #4 Ferrum or #5 CNU/Meth @ #4 Hardin Simmons

Ralph Turner

Llamaguy, I would only keep the 2 loss teams if there is a mathematical chance for a Pool A bid. :)

We can go thru the conferences and figure that.

religion_major

Hug,
You have gotta be kidding me if you see CNU or Methodist as a #5 seed above BC and/or UMHB.

Bill McCabe

religion_major,

How do you see the teams being rated.  Hope UMHB is not an 8, but I would take that over not being in.

religion_major

Bill,
I think #1-4 would have to go to the undefeated teams.  I would rate Trinity at #1 followed by Thiel and JHU at #2 and #3.  I could see the seed going either way.  Assuming that Ferrum wins the USA South and finishes 10-0, they are the #4 seed.  If CNU or Methodist wins the USA South they finish as the #8 seed.  I would rate UMHB at #5 dispite HSU getting the AQ by virtue of UMHB beating HSU.  I would put HSU above Salisbury leaving BC as the #8 seed.  Again if a three way tie comes in the USA South I would put the USA South AQ as #8. 

All of this assumes that W&J gets the fourth pool b slot and is shipped east.  That being said, if HC gets in via pool c they are number 8 in the South and Salisbury probably also goes east.

#6 HSU at #1 Trinity
#5 UMHB at # 4 Ferrum

#8 BC at # 2 Thiel
#7 Salisbury at # 3 JHU

We could see several early round upsets in this senerio: HSU vs. Trinity is a toss up, UMHB should beat Ferrum, and BC over Thiel is a possibility (playoff experiance plus a good playoff record, 2-1, over PAC teams).  It should be a very interesting South Region Playoff picture.

narch

rm - i know ferrum is undefeated, but even IF they win out, i don't see salisbury being seeded below fc - if the gulls win out they will have beaten wesley (currently 7-1), widener (currently 5-2), and frostburg (currently 4-3) in addition to methodist (currently 5-2) and cnu (currently 4-3) - ferrum doesn't have the same number of quality wins - i think ferrum is a 6 seed, at best, if they win out - i agree that if mc or cnu win the usasac aq, they'll be an 8 seed - the way the ncaa does things, though, your match-ups could be spot on, despite the seedings being off

Llamaguy

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 24, 2005, 03:33:15 PM
Llamaguy, I would only keep the 2 loss teams if there is a mathematical chance for a Pool A bid. :)

We can go thru the conferences and figure that.

I'll do that for Week #9. Thanks for the suggestion. ;)
"The Dali Llama"

Bridgewater Football 1980,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005 ODAC Champions!

Ralph Turner

IMHO, As geographically dispersed as this area is, it makes more sense to seed these teams by these criteria.

1) Who gets HFA for 3 weeks?  Which team is the best in the region?

2) Who deserves HFA for 2 weeks?  Second best team? Or geographcially isolated and needs to host a (Texas) sub-bracket?

3) Who deserves to host a playoff game?  Which 4 teams?  Geography considered!

Remember the 2002 season!  South Region #3 seed and overall #5 ranked UMHB went to South Region #2 seed and overall #4 ranked (Stagg finalist) Trinity in the first round!