South Region playoffs

Bill McCabe · October 23, 2005, 10:36:09 PM

When is the CNU-Ferrum game?

Llamaguy · October 23, 2005, 10:36:47 PM

Quote from: Hug on October 23, 2005, 10:24:58 PM
We won't know diddly until CNU plays Ferrum. If Ferrum wins, they stay home for a first round game. If CNU wins, I believe the coin flip winner will travel to Texas.

Thoughts?

I agree with you 100% Hug. A Johns Hopkins loss to Hampden Sydney and a Salisbury loss to Wesley certainly wouldn't hurt Bridgewater's cause to stay in the Northern half of the South Region Playoff bracket.

True RM;however, should CNU win the coin toss then CNU is Pool A with a qowi=7.60. Not to mention they are closer geographically to Texas.

CNU at Ferrum Nov.12th

Bill McCabe · October 24, 2005, 09:04:21 AM

When do the regional rankings come out?

historymajor · October 24, 2005, 09:56:37 AM

This week, I think...

Llamaguy · October 24, 2005, 11:21:19 AM

Quote from: historymajor on October 24, 2005, 09:56:37 AM
This week, I think...

Wednesday. They will be listed on the Comparison chart once out.

For those of you who haven't found it, the West region has a similar chart posted. Looks like they have 15 or so 1 and zero loss teams left and Whitworth may be a strong B/C as well. Looks like 2 regional losses has you sitting home for sure if you don't get a Pool A this year.

Ralph Turner · October 24, 2005, 02:02:15 PM

Llamaguy, it was your outline that was adopted by the West Region in conjunction with the NCAA's emphasis on identification and adoption of "Best Practices".

I hope that the President of the President's Council of D-III, the Bridgewater College President Phillip C Stone, is impressed with your demonstartion of your BC education!

Llamaguy · October 24, 2005, 02:20:19 PM

Yeah Ralph, Dr. Stone is good For Bridgewater, but even better for Division III athletics. He is a great guy with a definite handle on the DIII values and experience.

As for the format, next week I will probably begin tweaking it with your suggestion of using Primary critria, big wins, etc. I believe unless alot of 1 loss teams lose this week, the 2 loss bracket will fall by the wayside.

Hug · October 24, 2005, 03:21:57 PM

#6 Salisbury @ #2 Theil
#7 BC @ #3 UJH

#8 UMHB @ #1 Trinity
#5 Hardin Simmons @ #4 Ferrum or #5 CNU/Meth @ #4 Hardin Simmons

Ralph Turner · October 24, 2005, 03:33:15 PM

Llamaguy, I would only keep the 2 loss teams if there is a mathematical chance for a Pool A bid.

We can go thru the conferences and figure that.

religion_major · October 24, 2005, 04:11:03 PM

Hug,
You have gotta be kidding me if you see CNU or Methodist as a #5 seed above BC and/or UMHB.

Bill McCabe · October 24, 2005, 04:25:00 PM

religion_major,

How do you see the teams being rated. Hope UMHB is not an 8, but I would take that over not being in.

religion_major · October 24, 2005, 04:42:33 PM

Bill,
I think #1-4 would have to go to the undefeated teams. I would rate Trinity at #1 followed by Thiel and JHU at #2 and #3. I could see the seed going either way. Assuming that Ferrum wins the USA South and finishes 10-0, they are the #4 seed. If CNU or Methodist wins the USA South they finish as the #8 seed. I would rate UMHB at #5 dispite HSU getting the AQ by virtue of UMHB beating HSU. I would put HSU above Salisbury leaving BC as the #8 seed. Again if a three way tie comes in the USA South I would put the USA South AQ as #8.

All of this assumes that W&J gets the fourth pool b slot and is shipped east. That being said, if HC gets in via pool c they are number 8 in the South and Salisbury probably also goes east.

#6 HSU at #1 Trinity
#5 UMHB at # 4 Ferrum

#8 BC at # 2 Thiel
#7 Salisbury at # 3 JHU

We could see several early round upsets in this senerio: HSU vs. Trinity is a toss up, UMHB should beat Ferrum, and BC over Thiel is a possibility (playoff experiance plus a good playoff record, 2-1, over PAC teams). It should be a very interesting South Region Playoff picture.

narch · October 24, 2005, 05:20:38 PM

rm - i know ferrum is undefeated, but even IF they win out, i don't see salisbury being seeded below fc - if the gulls win out they will have beaten wesley (currently 7-1), widener (currently 5-2), and frostburg (currently 4-3) in addition to methodist (currently 5-2) and cnu (currently 4-3) - ferrum doesn't have the same number of quality wins - i think ferrum is a 6 seed, at best, if they win out - i agree that if mc or cnu win the usasac aq, they'll be an 8 seed - the way the ncaa does things, though, your match-ups could be spot on, despite the seedings being off

Llamaguy · October 24, 2005, 05:35:20 PM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 24, 2005, 03:33:15 PM
Llamaguy, I would only keep the 2 loss teams if there is a mathematical chance for a Pool A bid.

We can go thru the conferences and figure that.

I'll do that for Week #9. Thanks for the suggestion.

Ralph Turner · October 24, 2005, 05:36:42 PM

IMHO, As geographically dispersed as this area is, it makes more sense to seed these teams by these criteria.

1) Who gets HFA for 3 weeks? Which team is the best in the region?

2) Who deserves HFA for 2 weeks? Second best team? Or geographcially isolated and needs to host a (Texas) sub-bracket?

3) Who deserves to host a playoff game? Which 4 teams? Geography considered!

Remember the 2002 season! South Region #3 seed and overall #5 ranked UMHB went to South Region #2 seed and overall #4 ranked (Stagg finalist) Trinity in the first round!