South Region playoffs

[Toby Taff]

South
1. Trinity (Texas) 6-0 7-0
2. Ferrum 8-0 8-0 
3. Mary Hardin-Baylor 5-1 6-1
4. Thiel 8-0 8-0
5. Bridgewater (Virginia) 5-1 6-1
6. Wesley 5-0 8-1
7. Hardin-Simmons 6-1 7-1
8. Washington and Jefferson 6-1 8-1
9. Johns Hopkins 6-1 7-1
10. DePauw 5-1 6-1

Did HSU fall a spot because of quarterback attrition?

[religion_major]

My guess is Wesley jumped HSU because they are underfeated in the region while HSU has a regional loss.  Even then I can't understand why BC is above Wesley (I may point out for those who do not know I am a Bridgewater fan).

[Bob.Gregg]

...(never did figure out why W&J had to come to Trinity in '94). 

BFB, there was the W&J loss in Week 9 to Cortland State.

The wildest thing about that game was the play of W&J DT Matt Szczypinski.  Had knee surgery on Tuesday (scope) in Pennsylvania and played Saturday in Texas.  And was a force!

Mr. Alphabet Soup that winter added Kodak AFCA A-A to the Szczypinski, in addition to his AP Little A-A, and Champion A-A and PAC All-Conference, and host of other letters.

I enjoyed my visit to Texas that day! (as I'm sure you can imagine!)

[pakownr97]

Before I voted in the new poll, I wanted to check to make sure UMHB won their matchup with HSU.  

What I didn't remember was the score, 38-7. WOW!  Now I see why HSU is ranked so low.  I know a loss is a loss, but I think we all expected a closer game.

So I voted for UMHB, but don't count out Bridgewater.  I think any of the top eight have a realistic chance to make it to the semis.

[tTU719803]

Trinity had a great team in '94.  Their defense was stacked.  But it was a case of a team that was only a year removed from being the perennial SCAC doormat being in a playoff game for the first time and choking.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Rnk	School	Records	QoWi	Week 10	Week 11
1	Trinity, Texas	6-0, 7-0	11.500	at Sewanee (4-4)	vs Millsaps (1-6)
2	Ferrum	8-0, 8-0	10.286	at N.C. Wesleyan (3-5)	vs Christopher Newport (5-3)
3	Mary Hardin-Baylor	5-1, 6-1	10.333	vs McMurry (5-3)	at Austin (1-7)
4	Thiel	8-0, 8-0	11.000	vs Buffalo State (3-4)	at Carnegie Mellon (4-4)
5	Bridgewater, Va.	5-1, 6-1	9.667	vs Randolph-Macon (2-6)	vs Catholic (3-5)
6	Wesley	5-0, 8-1	13.200	at Chowan	Open
7	Hardin-Simmons	6-1, 7-1	10.429	vs Austin (1-7)	at Texas Lutheran (4-4)
8	Washington & Jefferson	6-1, 8-1	8.857	at Thomas More (5-3)	Open
9	Johns Hopkins	6-1, 7-1	9.857	at Hampden-Sydney (6-2)	at McDaniel (4-4)
10	DePauw	5-1, 6-1	9.500	at Rose-Hulman (5-3)	vs Wabash (8-0)

The next five (by QoWi):

Rnk	School	Records	QoWi	Week 10	Week 11
--	Salisbury	2-1, 6-2	12.000	vs Widener (6-2)	at Frostburg State (5-3)
--	Hampden-Sydney	6-2, 6-2	9.750	vs Johns Hopkins (7-1)	at Randolph-Macon (2-6)
--	Howard Payne	5-2, 5-3	9.714	vs Louisiana College (3-4)	at Mississippi College (1-6)
--	Huntingdon	4-1, 6-1	9.400	at Westminster, Mo. (5-4)	vs Maryville, Tenn. (1-7)
--	Methodist	6-2, 6-2	9.000	at Greensboro (1-7)	vs Shenandoah (1-7)

[Ron Boerger]

I enjoyed my visit to Texas that day! (as I'm sure you can imagine!)

I was there too, Bob.  It was the first game I had attended since my days at the school in the early '80s and was what got me interested in national Division III football in the first place.   So even though your guys spanked my guys, I have to thank W&J for something.  And we returned the favor in '02.   

[Llamaguy]

Week #9 Comparison

* ranking will be based on current QOWI w/in each loss column
@ - indicates teams eligible for Pool B bids
( ) NCAA South Region Ranking
AFCA Rankings updated as of Nov. 1   (N/R = not ranked)

"0" D-III LOSS TEAMS   with (overall w/l) (regional w/l) QOWI   (important games remaining)

1.  TRINITY (#1)                (7-0) (6-0)     11.50      D3 #9      AFCA#6       None
2.  THIEL @ (#4)                (8-0) (8-0)     11.00      D3 #16    AFCA#19    11/12                       at Carnegie Mellon
3.  FERRUM (#2)                 (8-0) (7-0)     10.29                   AFCA#23     11/12                      Christopher Newport

"1" D-III LOSS TEAMS

1.  WESLEY @ (#6)                (8-1) (5-0)   13.20                    N/R           None
2.  HARDIN-SIMMONS (#7)      (7-1) (6-1)   10.43      D3 #10    AFCA #11    11/12                      at Texas Lutheran       
3.  UMHB (#3)                      (6-1) (5-1)   10.33      D3# 5     AFCA #7      11/5                       McMurry
4.  JOHNS HOPKINS (#9)        (7-1) (6-1)     9.86                     N/R          11/5                      at Hampden-Sydney, 11/12 at McDaniel
5.  BRIDGEWATER (#5)          (6-1) (5-1)     9.67      D3 #18    AFCA #15    None
6.  HUNTINGDON @               (6-1) (5-1)     9.40                       N/R            11/5                      at Westminster (MO)
7.  WASH & JEFF @ (#8)       (8-1) (6-1)     8.86     D3 # 14   AFCA #17     11/5                       at Thomas More
8.  DEPAUW (#10)                (6-1) (5-1)     8.60                        N/R        11/5                        at Rose-Hulman, 11/12 Wabash



"2" D-III LOSS TEAMS

The "2-loss" in region teams look to basically be eliminated from Pool C consideration. There are currently 14 undefeated teams and 23 "1-loss" teams in D3 football. Should enough of these teams lose in the last 2 weeks I may revisit the "2-loss" group. For now I will list the most likely "2-loss" teams to get a Pool C and the 2 or more loss teams in the USA-South conference still alive for that Pool A bid.

Top "2-loss" Pool C candidates =  1. Salisbury               (6-2) (2-1) 12.00
                                              2. Hampden-Sydney   (6-2) (6-2)   9.75

USA-South Pool A =  Methodist  (6-2)
                            Christopher Newport  (5-3)



South Region (Pool A) Berths (Conference Champions w/ Auto-bids)

American Southwest Conference -
Centennial Conference -
Old Dominion Athletic Conference - Bridgewater
Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference -
USA South Athletic Conference -

* conference champions to be updated once official      

[Llamaguy]

OK the Week 9 chart is updated with current regional rankings. Was someone asleep at the wheel at the NCAA office again this week?

Looks like HSU is the team not getting the love. Wesley after a big win over Salisbury jumped them in the regional ranking. Still a mystery, but now HSU can wonder how they are not only  behind BC but also Wesley. I know Wesley does have a higher QOWI so theoretically its BC's ranking which is in question. It looks a though whatever formula they used last week is still in place.

Also congrats to DePauw, if they can beat Rose-Hulman this week and Wabash in Week 11 they would definitely be a strong Pool C candidate.

[spliskin]

Llamaguy,

Good work as usual, but I suggest that the "important game" remaining for Thiel is 11/5 vs Buffalo State. Buffalo State plays an excruciating schedule as evidenced by their 20th ranked QOWI number of 10.333. 3 of their 4 losses came at the hands of nationally ranked teams (Ithica, Wesley, Salisbury). While CMU's QOWI is ranked #128 at 7.00. They've earned their 4-4 record over much easier competition. Additionally, Buff State upset Thiel in 2004 to knock them out of the postseason.

At this point in the season every game is important for poll B candidates, but it seems to me that BSU will be Thiel's toughest test remaining.

[PittTBCW]

Why don't they seed the 3 Texas Teams 2,3, and either 6 or 7 so that noone has to travel to Texas except the opening round as long as all goes good and give Thiel and Ferrum 1 and 4. That way if the bracket plays out you have two game that make sence geographically speaking.


Just my opinion

[Cleveland Cartel]

Llama Guy,

You have Thiel playing Carnegie Mellon this week.  They play BUff St. at home this week and next week is Carnegie mellon at Mellon.....

[PittTBCW]

Llamaguy,

Good work as usual, but I suggest that the "important game" remaining for Thiel is 11/5 vs Buffalo State. Buffalo State plays an excruciating schedule as evidenced by their 20th ranked QOWI number of 10.333. 3 of their 4 losses came at the hands of nationally ranked teams (Ithica, Wesley, Salisbury). While CMU's QOWI is ranked #128 at 7.00. They've earned their 4-4 record over much easier competition. Additionally, Buff State upset Thiel in 2004 to knock them out of the postseason.

At this point in the season every game is important for poll B candidates, but it seems to me that BSU will be Thiel's toughest test remaining.

Without a doubt Thiel's biggest game this season is the one coming up this week vs Buff St.....then after that the biggest game of the season is @ Carnegie Mellon. If Thiel lets down either of the last two weeks it could spell disaster for the Tomcats as far as making the Playoffs. Buff State is by far a better team in my opinion then Mellon and I look forward to the matchup this weekend in Greenville. Thiel owes them for last year as mentioned and Buff St. like to play spoiler so I am sure it will be quite a contest this Saturday.

[Cleveland Cartel]

LLama,

My bad important games left to play.....LOL I would say BUFF is just as big or bigger than Mellon.....

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

[...] I suggest that the "important game" remaining for Thiel is 11/5 vs Buffalo State. Buffalo State plays an excruciating schedule as evidenced by their 20th ranked QOWI number of 10.333. 3 of their 4 losses came at the hands of nationally ranked teams (Ithica, Wesley, Salisbury). [...]

The same Buffalo State team that lost to a club team (George Mason) 27-21 on Sept. 3?

Bridgewater beat Mason 45-0 on Sept. 24 ... they had/have like 40 players on their roster.