South Region playoffs

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Bob.Gregg

Quote from: Bill McCabe on November 14, 2005, 06:18:18 PM
Bob.Gregg, I don't think the east teams are nearly as strong as HSU and 3 of them got pool C invites.  HSU is in if they beat TLU, so most of the problem is their own doing. :)  I would like to have seen them get in.

No issue whatsoever with your liking "to have seen them (HSU) get in."

But there is a system for evaluation in place.  Under that given system, HSU's on-field performance didn't match Cortland's, or Wilkes', or Hobart's.

You may well have an argument ABOUT the system, but there isn't an argument to be made about the system's application!
Been wrong before.  Will be wrong again.

Bob.Gregg

Quote from: eh ... just call me 'kid' on November 14, 2005, 06:24:14 PM...But with it 1-3, 4-7, 2-8, and 5-6, MHB is away from home in the first round.  If they win, then they get to host either Ferrum or Wesley.  If they win that, they would more than likely face W&J or Bridgewater (another home game).

So in the scenario they actually have, they more than likely will get two home games before flying out west.  In the 1-8, 2-7, 3-6, 4-5 scenario, you'd likely get one home game.

This might actually benefit them.

I'm sure undefeated Thiel's players and fans might find one little piece of your scenario objectionable....
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Bob.Gregg

Finally, somehow, people around these boards continue to be surprised by the NCAA insistence on using the "Geographic Proximity" clause as it regards to matchups.

Disdain for the provision is acceptable.
Hatred (while a dangerous emotion) is understandable.

Surprise, particularly out of any board regular is just "head in the sand".  ('They won't do it to us.  I know what it says, but our ranking's so strong they'll have to do something else.)
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Toby Taff

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 14, 2005, 07:25:49 PM
Finally, somehow, people around these boards continue to be surprised by the NCAA insistence on using the "Geographic Proximity" clause as it regards to matchups.

Disdain for the provision is acceptable.
Hatred (while a dangerous emotion) is understandable.

Surprise, particularly out of any board regular is just "head in the sand".  ('They won't do it to us.  I know what it says, but our ranking's so strong they'll have to do something else.)

I think for most of us its more disgust.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

historymajor

Maybe the problem is the 'regions' themselves.... I've long complained that the 'south' region got changed forever when the ASC grew into it's current proportions.... the south extends from PA to West TX... The west covers all of CA as far east as 'some' of the WI schools, while others are in the North. Pat has mentioned that Lakeland and Whitewater are in different regions.... Maybe now with 32 teams they should consider trying to balance things out in 8 regions. Maybe the regions need to be dynamic and be 're-drawn' after the top 32 teams are identified, and 1-32 has been established and strength of region/travel/? could be factored in...

PittTBCW

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Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 14, 2005, 07:21:06 PM
Quote from: eh ... just call me 'kid' on November 14, 2005, 06:24:14 PM...But with it 1-3, 4-7, 2-8, and 5-6, MHB is away from home in the first round.  If they win, then they get to host either Ferrum or Wesley.  If they win that, they would more than likely face W&J or Bridgewater (another home game).

So in the scenario they actually have, they more than likely will get two home games before flying out west.  In the 1-8, 2-7, 3-6, 4-5 scenario, you'd likely get one home game.

This might actually benefit them.



I'm sure undefeated Thiel's players and fans might find one little piece of your scenario objectionable....


Never under estimate the Cardiac Cats especially @ home!!!

Very balanced, tested, great chemistry, great defense, very strong oline and rb's.....you never know thats why they line up and play every game every Saturday!
GO TOMCATS!!!

religion_major

Welcome to the playoffs Thiel fans.  Most any team can beat any other team in this region.  Thiel may be undefeated, but even if Hopkins does not give Thiel much of a game I will promise you that the winner of the BC and W&J game will give Thiel a run for their money.

badbadman

frank - on a straight line (through Lake Erie) it's only about 100 miles to Canada!  I guess it is South if you live in Matagami, Quebec.

PittTBCW

I agree. Any team can give any team a run for their money each and every week especially in the playoffs. Win or go home....why in the heck do the big boys not have a playoff system....I can not wait for Saturday!
GO TOMCATS!!!

Amish Allstar

South is a strange mix of regions, teams and leagues.  Ohio to Texas to Penn.  very very weird.

Ron Boerger

With 32 teams selected now, why doesn't the AA smiply organize FB into EIGHT regions?  Sounds simple enough ... and similar to what they do in other sports like bball. 

West
Southwest
Upper Midwest
Midwest
Middle Atlantic
New England
Ohio Valley
Something else ...

Toby Taff

Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on November 14, 2005, 11:43:42 PM
With 32 teams selected now, why doesn't the AA smiply organize FB into EIGHT regions?  Sounds simple enough ... and similar to what they do in other sports like bball. 

West
Southwest
Upper Midwest
Midwest
Middle Atlantic
New England
Ohio Valley
Something else ...

Something else to AA would probably= Texas! ;D
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on November 14, 2005, 11:43:42 PM
With 32 teams selected now, why doesn't the AA smiply organize FB into EIGHT regions?  Sounds simple enough ... and similar to what they do in other sports like bball. 

West
Southwest
Upper Midwest
Midwest
Middle Atlantic
New England
Ohio Valley
Something else ...


With only 221 non-NESCAC schools, though, that would decrease regional game opportunities. And for football, played almost exclusively on Saturdays, there's no reason to discourage travel by limiting movement like that.
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frank uible

badbadman: Probably fewer than one hundred miles since a large part of Lake Erie is in Canada!

ThielFan

Quote from: religion_major on November 14, 2005, 09:17:52 PM
Welcome to the playoffs Thiel fans.  Most any team can beat any other team in this region.  Thiel may be undefeated, but even if Hopkins does not give Thiel much of a game I will promise you that the winner of the BC and W&J game will give Thiel a run for their money.

This is no surprise to any Thiel fans that have paid any attention this season.  After all, we did have to win three of our road games in overtime, and many teams that were supposed "pushovers" gave Thiel a strong challenge.  I don't think that Thiel is planning to come in and walk over anybody, they know how much hard work will be necessary to have a chance to win any of these games, including Hopkins.