South Region playoffs

[mizzou_mafia]

I know at the BC game this weekend, if you left, you had to pay to get back in.

Anyone know what cut of the $8 goes to the schools involved, and what goes back to the NCAA?  The attendance was marked at 2400 at the BC-W&J game, so there's almost $20K to pay for officials and the bus ride.  

[religion_major]

pakownr97 and Llamaguy thnaks.  We were treated as one of your own by everyone.  It was my fault for leaving the flag up.  It was on a telescpoic aluminum pole that attaches toa base.  Someone unscrewed the pole from the base and stole the flag.  The only reason i know this is one of the connections were shut and the other open.  Had the wind torn the flag both connections would have been open or destoyed.  I have traveled with the Presidents for four years with never a problem leaving the flag up.  Even agaisnt our PAC foes.  I was never treated better at any place as I was at Bridgewater.  You should be proud of the administration and the class of your football team and as you say 99% of your fans.  My daughter even went into the tailgate party above us and asked those attending and one young person said she did not have any evidence.  Meaning the flag or no one saw them.  I will be a Thiel looking for the flag as it is close to home plus it should be another great game.  It was red and white with my sons number on it.  I hope the person enjoys it as much as my family and friends have as it has been the sign everyone looks for when we traveled.  Just would hate to see this happen every place you go and receive a bad rap for a few.

As a Bridgewater student, it upsets me that someone would do something like that.  I am sorry that your flags were stolen.  This is the type of senseless behavior that makes things difficult for football fans to enjoy games.  

[spliskin]

The ticket for the TC vs JHU game was $8 and we were told that you would have to buy another ticket to re-enter if you left the stadium as mandated by the NCAA. Personnally, I think $8 for a playoff game is very reasonable.

[Ron Boerger]

Wow, learn something new.  OK, thanks.   It's interesting that you find nothing in the championship handbook about this, at least I was not able to.

The D3 football championship handbook states:

Tickets
[Reference: Tickets in the Division III General Section and Bylaw 31.1.11 in the NCAA Manual.]
An allotment of tickets will be reserved for the competing institutions.

Each competing institution will have access to 500 tickets, with no less than half of
the tickets being located between the 30-yard lines. The host institution or sponsoring
agency will retain 250 of the 500 tickets, and the competing institutions will be advised
that they are available if needed. Additional tickets may be purchased, but the seat
locations will not be guaranteed.

Admission shall be charged at all NCAA championships, unless a governing
sports committee determines that charging admission is not feasible due to facility
configuration or the expenses relative to the event's attendance history. Children under
two years of age may be admitted free if they do not occupy a seat. Ticket prices shall
be determined by the respective games committees with the approval of the governing
sports committee. Ticket prices may be "scaled" according to the location of the seats.

Faculty members shall be charged regular admission prices. Properly identified grade
school, high-school and college students may purchase admission tickets at a reduced
rate to be recommended by the governing sports committee and approved by the
divisional championships committee.
Each institution shall return all moneys and unsold tickets and inform the host
institution or sponsoring agency of the number it will require from the 250 tickets
being retained not later than 6 p.m. Thursday before the game. If the tickets are not
returned to the host institution or sponsoring agency by this time, the institution shall
be responsible for all unreturned tickets at face value. Once the competing institutions
release the tickets being retained, the host institution or sponsoring agency will use them for public sale.

Minimum Prices. The minimum ticket price for adults at preliminary rounds of the
Division III championship shall be $8. A $4 student general-admission ticket, with
student identification card, is permissible for students of participating institutions for
preliminary-round games.

Ticket prices for the national championship game are $15 for adults ($12.50 in
advance) and $5 for students. For information regarding tickets to the championship
game, contact: Marcia White, Salem Civic Center, P.O. Box 886, Salem, Virginia 24153

The Division III General Championships Handbook states only:

Tickets
[Reference: Tickets (see pages in sports-specific handbooks).]
Admission shall be charged at all NCAA championships, unless a governing
sports committee determines that charging admission is not feasible due to facility
configuration or the expense relative to the event's attendance history. The respective
games committees, with the approval of the governing sports committee, shall determine
ticket prices. Ticket prices may be "scaled" according to the location of the seats.

Faculty members shall be charged regular admission prices. Cheerleaders in uniform,
not to exceed 12 in number, and a uniformed mascot may be admitted without charge.
Properly identified grade school, high-school and college students may purchase
admission tickets at a reduced rate to be recommended by the sports committee and
approved by the Division III Championships Committee.

The solicitation of donations from spectators at an NCAA championship shall be prohibited without the prior approval of the Division III Championships Committee.

Bylaw 31.1.11 states only:

31.1.11 Admission and Tickets. Admission shall be charged at all NCAA championships unless a governing sports committee determines that charging admission is not feasible because of facility configuration or the expense relative to the event's attendance history. Ticket prices shall be respective games committees with the approval of the governing sports committee.

Can anyone cite chapter and verse for "no leaving the stadium" ??  I don't doubt it, just wonder where it's at now that I went digging to find it. 

[critic]

Anybody know how much each school makes by hosting a playoff game?  It sure woud be nice to make some money off of these playoffs to put back into each individual program.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

I was a part of Bridgewater's hosting meeting last Monday, and it was Bridgewater that set the "no re-entry" rule, not the NCAA.

[pakownr97]

I was a part of Bridgewater's hosting meeting last Monday, and it was Bridgewater that set the "no re-entry" rule, not the NCAA.

Sounds like Ron & Kid agree it not the NCAA's, but the host school's decision on re-entry.  Doesn't matter to me, for the quality of football I've seen during the past five years of D3 playoffs, I'll gladly obay any dumb rule "they" make up to see the best entertainment $8 stinking bucks will ever buy.  Heck, I pay almost $100 per month for DirecTV, and I have not seen as much entertainment in eleven years.

So, just for you Kid, here's my stats:

DirecTV (est 100/mo X 132 mo) = $13,200

D3 Playoffs (2 adults 1 child = 20 per game X 12) = $240
+ One Stagg Bowl = $30

Uh oh, I guess I owe the NCAA $12,930.  I hope they don't know where I live.

[jdean]

I downloaded the entire 2005 DIII handbook and skimmed thru it. There is nothing in there about the re-entry rule. There seems to have been a couple minor changes to other sections so maybe the rule was deleted with the 9-15-05 update.

[firewater]

GREAT NEWS
Brandon Wakefield has recovered my lost flag.  Thanks to everyone for their help and sincerity.  Evidently someone remembered my daughter heading into the tailgate of Bridgewater fans and Brandon took over.  Good luck to all.

[miz]

GREAT NEWS
Brandon Wakefield has recovered my lost flag.  Thanks to everyone for their help and sincerity.  Evidently someone remembered my daughter heading into the tailgate of Bridgewater fans and Brandon took over.  Good luck to all.

Nobody could have probably written a more fitting closure to the BC-W&J weekend than Wakefield saving the day in the end. 

I'm glad you got your flag back. 

[pakownr97]

GREAT NEWS
Brandon Wakefield has recovered my lost flag.  Thanks to everyone for their help and sincerity.  Evidently someone remembered my daughter heading into the tailgate of Bridgewater fans and Brandon took over.  Good luck to all.

That Wakefield kid is an alright guy.  Now, if we could just get him to stand on the correct side of the sidelines...

Glad you got your flag back. 

[Llamaguy]

GREAT NEWS
Brandon Wakefield has recovered my lost flag.  Thanks to everyone for their help and sincerity.  Evidently someone remembered my daughter heading into the tailgate of Bridgewater fans and Brandon took over.  Good luck to all.

Great news Firewater! I was hot on their trail but didn't know he had already recovered the goods! For what its worth, it was not a current BC student who took it as far as I can tell. Guess some people take a rivalry thing a little too far. Last years loss to W&J was awful but not bad enough to do something like that. If you still come to the game Saturday stop by and say hey, we will be under the BCfootball flags with the white tent.

[Bwana]

Anybody know how much each school makes by hosting a playoff game?  It sure woud be nice to make some money off of these playoffs to put back into each individual program.

I do not know that they get a great deal of money.

I spoke at length with Bill Miracle (Dean of Students) at Bridgewater during the BC/WJ game.  Bill said that effectively Jopson field was an NCAA enterprise zone.  All $$ from tickets, concessions, programs, souvenirs all goes to the NCAA, and then the host school gets back money.  He did not indicate how much the NCAA gave back., but I bet given how tight the NCAA is with travel $$ when they set the seeds that the school would not get back much beyond hosting costs. 

However, his explanation did answer my unspoken question as to why the Eagle Club did not run their tent during playoff games and why the Bookstore Tent was not set up in front of Memorial as per usual...

[Bwana]

I was a part of Bridgewater's hosting meeting last Monday, and it was Bridgewater that set the "no re-entry" rule, not the NCAA.

Kid-

Why did BC go w/ the no reentry?

[bcsportswriter]

I know it isnt good to question Dean Miracle, but as far as I know all of the concession sales at the playoffs stay at school.  The baseball team and softball team split the money. it never goes to the NCAA.