South Region playoffs

[Ralph Turner]

Going to revive this board for the playoff games involving Region 3...

...awfully nice of the committee to give a "tie" for 7th!

[Hawks88]

Why does it have Huntingdon as 7-1 vs D3? All of our games are D3. Unless they are only counting in region but the header doesn't say that and they have Linfield at 8-0 so they have that game counting for them.

[Ron Boerger]

Going to be like old times with HSU probably going to Trinity.

[Hawks88]

Here's bit that I had wondered about but never checked on. Coach Turk mentioned on his radio show last night that Huntingdon has not actually clinched yet. Because Belhaven is playing everyone in the conference and will have 8 conference games while all other teams are skipping one(because of the week 3 ODAC-USAC challenge) they will end up 7-1 with a win this week. If we were to lose and end up 6-1 then Belhaven would win the conference.
Just more incentive to make sure we take care of business against Lagrange.

Go Hawks!

[Ron Boerger]

Pat and Greg talk to the national selection committee chair in a special edition of the ATN Podcast and one of the questions they asked was (paraphrased) "what do you do when the regional committees game the system".  What I found most interesting was that the chair went immediately to Region 3 as his example (and Pat redirected him to other regions where there was more potential gaming going on). 

The chair also addressed the "why does region 3 get eight ranked teams when everyone else only got seven" and many other questions. 

[Etchglow]

Pat and Greg talk to the national selection committee chair in a special edition of the ATN Podcast and one of the questions they asked was (paraphrased) "what do you do when the regional committees game the system".  What I found most interesting was that the chair went immediately to Region 3 as his example (and Pat redirected him to other regions where there was more potential gaming going on). 

The chair also addressed the "why does region 3 get eight ranked teams when everyone else only got seven" and many other questions.

I think he is a r3 guy so that's why he went to r3. I think it is kind of funny that he went to "oh we're not putting Hsu at #2" instead of the whole ranking 8 teams in a list that is supposed to be 7.  I thought his defense of ranking 8 was rather weak as well...

[Hawks88]

If there is a question about #7 it should really be between Bridgewater and Belhaven. Birmingham-Southern should easily be #6.

[Wild Horse Rider]

HSU has a pretty good shot I think at one of the at large bids.  From the best I could tell there are 8 solid candidates before the week 11 games.  I know upsets can happen so this is just assuming chalk:

Region 1 best candidate- Kings (8-1) 1 RR loss to Del Valley and 1 RR win to Stevenson
Region 2 best candidate- Johns Hopkins (8-1) 1 RR loss to Susquehanna
Region 3 best candidate- Hardin-Simmons (7-1) 1 RR loss UMHB and 1 RR win UW Platteville
Region 4 best candidate- EITHER loser of Albion/Alma this weekend who will have 1 RR and a (9-1) record loss OR John Carroll (7-1) 1 RR loss Mount Union 1 RR win Baldwin Wallace
Region 5 best candidate- Wheaton (7-2) 2 RR losses Trinity and North Central and 1 RR win Wash U
Region 6 best candidates (could have two here)- UW Whitewater 2 RR losses St Johns and UW Platteville and 2 RR wins UMHB and UW Oshkosh.  The loser of the Bethel/St Johns game will have 1 RR win and 2 RR losses

I don't know what order the teams will come off the board this sunday for the at large bids but I would expect:

Hardin-Simmons, Wheaton, UWW, St Johns/Bethel, and I am very torn on the 5th team.  I think the best resume would be Kings or Johns Carroll but Johns Hopkins wouldn't surprise me.  Clearly I could be off or missing some better teams but that is what my untrained eye saw.

[jakeMN91]

HSU has a pretty good shot I think at one of the at large bids.  From the best I could tell there are 8 solid candidates before the week 11 games.  I know upsets can happen so this is just assuming chalk:

Region 1 best candidate- Kings (8-1) 1 RR loss to Del Valley and 1 RR win to Stevenson
Region 2 best candidate- Johns Hopkins (8-1) 1 RR loss to Susquehanna
Region 3 best candidate- Hardin-Simmons (7-1) 1 RR loss UMHB and 1 RR win UW Platteville
Region 4 best candidate- EITHER loser of Albion/Alma this weekend who will have 1 RR and a (9-1) record loss OR John Carroll (7-1) 1 RR loss Mount Union 1 RR win Baldwin Wallace
Region 5 best candidate- Wheaton (7-2) 2 RR losses Trinity and North Central and 1 RR win Wash U
Region 6 best candidates (could have two here)- UW Whitewater 2 RR losses St Johns and UW Platteville and 2 RR wins UMHB and UW Oshkosh.  The loser of the Bethel/St Johns game will have 1 RR win and 2 RR losses

I don't know what order the teams will come off the board this sunday for the at large bids but I would expect:

Hardin-Simmons, Wheaton, UWW, St Johns/Bethel, and I am very torn on the 5th team.  I think the best resume would be Kings or Johns Carroll but Johns Hopkins wouldn't surprise me.  Clearly I could be off or missing some better teams but that is what my untrained eye saw.

Regarding your at-large candidates in Region 6, it is my understanding that UWW will get the auto-bid with a win this weekend since they have the head-to-head win over UW-Lacrosse. Lacrosse would then be the top at-large team from the WIAC.

[Wild Horse Rider]

Brain fart.  You are correct.  Thanks Jake

[Cowboy2]

Brain fart.  You are correct.  Thanks Jake

Half wrong. If UWW loses (never know) they would be the second selection for a pool c team for R6.

But yes most likely UWL will be the candidate.

I think based on the bethel situation last year Wheaton gets in on that resume and SOS.

HSU has got to have UWP win and stay in. Their SOS isn't great enough to use no did they have a close game against UMHB

Committee loves Hopkins

JCU in my opinion isn't as good of a choice as BSC or Wash U for a two loss team...but both have someone high ranked in conference ahead of them to be even discussed

Should be a wild selection day

[Ralph Turner]

Brain fart.  You are correct.  Thanks Jake

Half wrong. If UWW loses (never know) they would be the selection for a pool c team for R6.

But yes most likely UWL will be the candidate.

I think based on the bethel situation last year Wheaton gets in on that resume and SOS.

HSU has got to have UWP win and stay in. Their SOS isn't great enough to use no did they have a close game against UMHB

Committee loves Hopkins

JCU in my opinion isn't as good of a choice as BSC or Wash U for a two loss team...but both have someone high ranked in conference ahead of them to be even discussed

Should be a wild selection day

Yes.

[tigerguy]

Welp - another gauntlet of a southern bracket. Pretty tough pill to swallow to see 5 of the top 9 teams in one quadrant, whereas Mount Union's quadrant has....just them. Sigh.

[tigerguy]

Welp - another gauntlet of a southern bracket. Pretty tough pill to swallow to see 5 of the top 9 teams in one quadrant, whereas Mount Union's quadrant has....just them. Sigh.

Shouldn't have stopped looking. North Central's quadrant is even breezier. Sheesh. Geography, man.

[D3Navy]

Will be nice to have playoff football back at EM Stevens Stadium.  The fan support has been outstanding this year and Saturday should be amazing.  It'll also be fun to have a loaded visitor side.

Trinity needs to jazz up the offense a bit to advance.  Special teams and defense have carried the load this year.  The 2nd half against Sewanee yesterday was very promising.  It revealed a lot of depth and a stable of superb quarterbacks (keep an eye on Dez Thomas over the next few years!).

Can't wait for Saturday!