South Region playoffs

[mizzou_mafia]

I hear yah Llama.  I'm just looking for answers, and hopefully accountability.  The journalist in me wants more answers and isn't satisfied with just accepting what is presented, especially when what is presented doesn't follow the guidelines that everyone else is using.

Isn't the QOWI the SOS index used by the committee, not Massey?  I know it was in the past.

If I follow your line of rationale, and give Trinity the 'benefit of the doubt', and don't count Thiel's win against a regionally ranked team, then why is Ferrum ahead of Thiel (when Thiel has a full point higher QOWI).  Why is BC ahead of HSU (again, HSU has a higher QOWI, and a higher Regional winning %)?   

I won't say that committee members "are intentionally swaying the vote", but it would make sense for, say the two USAC members, to support Ferrum, not because they're in the same conference, but because they both got pounded by Ferrum.   They've seen Ferrum play.  No one on the committee has seen Thiel play.

[religion_major]

mizzou,

I think you may be on to something regarding who on the committee has seen which teams play.  Dispite what the criteria tells a committee member it will be hard for him to forget the team that monkey stomped his team.

[Llamaguy]

Totally agree with the Ferrum & BC assessment. The old SOSI was replaced by the qowi. Although the qowi doesn't exactly give you a good feel for SOS. I doubt they use Massey, I think its subjective and may be where your "seeing a team play" comes into effect.

[PittTBCW]

Guys Great Job!!!

I think alot of you made valid points. I am not trying to say that Thiel is the best team in the south region. I just think that if the rules state that Thiel should be number one then they should be. If they state they should be 8th then they should be 8th. I am not trying to create something out of nothing just was curious. In football if its fourth down and 5 yards to go and you only get 3 yards its not a first down.

[Hug]

You guys are being too Black & White.  Its all going to come down to mileage.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

New poll posted.


Previous Question: If everyone wins out this weekend (and Pat's recent projections hold) - putting fan bias aside - which game would you most want to see?

#18 Bridgewater (9-1) at Ferrum (10-0) - 4 (8.9%)
Johns Hopkins (8-2) at #17 Thiel (10-0) - 6 (13.3%)
#8 Hardin-Simmons (9-1) at #9 Trinity, Texas (9-0) - 24 (53.3%)
#25 Wesley (9-1) at #4 Mary Hardin-Baylor (8-1) - 11 (24.4%)
 
Total Votes: 45

[mizzou_mafia]

You guys are being too Black & White.  Its all going to come down to mileage.

Matchups will, but seedings shouldn't.

[Pat Coleman]

You guys are being too Black & White.  Its all going to come down to mileage.

Yes, but don't overthink it. The committee traditionally has no qualms whatsoever about sending teams 499 miles by bus, the limit before which the NCAA must pay for a flight. As long as it's a bus trip, they don't usually care whether it's 200 miles or 499 miles.

[Hug]

Maybe I'm underthinking it!

I still believe it works too well not to have BC and Ferrum play one place or the other.

[PA_wesleyfan]

Llamaguy , Imagine this board in '95 or 96' When there were 7 or maybe even 8 undefeated teams and only 4 made the playoffs. 

[Ron Boerger]

It's interesting to look at Massey's top 32 teams. 

1. UW-Whitewater
2. Linfield
3. St John's
4. Mt Union
5. Concordia
6. Augustana
7. N Central
8. UW-Eau Claire
9. Central (IA)
10. Capital
11. St Olaf
12. UW-Stout
13. UW-LaCrosse
14. Ohio Northern
15. UMHB <- First South Region team
16. UW-Oshkosh
17. John Carroll
18. Coe
19. Hardin-Simmons
20. Wesley
21. Wabash
22. Trinity
23. Thiel
24. St John Fisher
25. Wheaton
26. Occidental
27. Bethel
28. DePauw
29. Rowan
30. W&J
31. Monmouth
32. Ithaca

So, Massey doesn't think too much of the South Region this year.   #39 Wesley is the eighth-ranked SR team.  Howard Payne is #45, Huntingdon #50. 

[Pat Coleman]

Massey never does. It's always very West heavy.

[Jamnqb10]

OK Guys,   Here it is, the end of the season.  I feel like I did when i was 16 and I realized that the summer was allmost over.   Thank God for the playoffs.  I hope your team made it. (Mine Did)  I would like to give a shout out to those Panthers from Ferrum college.  Bring it home Boys.  Leave no doubt who is supreme in the USAC.  Nobody beleived you could do it.  Except you of course.  Good luck Coach D & H.

GO! BlackHats!

[Josh Bowerman]

I think it might be more accurate to say Massey is always WIAC-heavy, wouldn't you agree, Pat?  I mean, is it realistic--at any level--that five teams from one conference are in the top 16 teams in the country?  

[Ron Boerger]

Massey never does. It's always very West heavy.

It's normally WIAC heavy, but there's usually someone from the south in the top ten.