South Region playoffs

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Ron Boerger

My point, Rikki, is that if you are going to go to the effort of seeding teams, the higher seeded teams should be the ones gettting the home games in the first round.

This is 3 or 4 years running (or maybe more, I don't know) that some Texas team that should have hosted a first round game finds itself instead shipped to play at another Texas team just so the FA can save a few dollars.  This year's violation of the FA's supposed "fair play" purpose is the most egregious, since it had to make up some BS about "having a different mileage table" to justify what it did. 

And, quite frankly, seeing a two-loss team be the beneficiary of this stupidity wrankles further.  CNU should be at CMU, not Millsaps.  That's 4 and 5. 

Look at the other three brackets.  They are perfect (1 vs. 8, 2 and 7, 3 and 6, 4 and 5).  Only in the South is it screwed up.  And once again it's a team from Texas that has to suffer. 

Josh Bowerman

I'm simply at a loss for words.   :-\ ??? :-\ ??? :-\ ???
"Without struggle, there is no progress."--Frederick Douglass

Josh Bowerman

+K for Ron.  I, too, shall now refer to the large, bloated, bureaucratic organization in Indianapolis as the NCFA.   8)
"Without struggle, there is no progress."--Frederick Douglass

Ralph Turner

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I wish that we could get an official explanation from

* ***** *****
NCAA Director of Championships

of how his department messed up its procedures so grandly!

An apology posted on the D3football website would be a good start.

(Edited for reasons...His name is in the NCAA D3 Football Championships Handbook--RT)

Josh Bowerman

Surely you wouldn't be implicitly suggesting that all affected parties flood the email inbox of R. Wayne Burrow, NCAA Director of Championships with complaints, would you Ralph?   ;)
"Without struggle, there is no progress."--Frederick Douglass

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Josh Bowerman on November 12, 2006, 05:37:48 PM
Surely you wouldn't be implicitly suggesting that all affected parties flood the email inbox of R. Wayne Burrow, NCAA Director of Championships with complaints, would you Ralph?   ;)

You're fast, Josh!  I couldn't even edit my post after a cooling off period of 15 secs!   :D ;D :D ;D 8)

Josh Bowerman

What were the "reasons" for your edit, Ralph?   ???
"Without struggle, there is no progress."--Frederick Douglass

Ron Boerger

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A phone number of an individual with initials RWB that might be of interest:  317/917-6493.

This website purports to send an e-mail to the same person.

I would suggest that anyone using either of these alternatives keep it polite and professional.  Simply calling the NCFA a bunch of arrogant tightwads with a huge bias against Texas schools is unlikely to result in anything changing, even if it is true.  Actually, no matter what you do it's unlikely anything will change, after all we are talking about the NCFA which operates by its own rules, except when they don't want to. 

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Josh Bowerman on November 12, 2006, 05:41:33 PM
What were the "reasons" for your edit, Ralph?   ???

"Cooler" head?!?

Josh, How do I demand accountability from the NCAA?  They expect McMurry to abide by the principles of a voluntary association.

Perhaps a mass letter writing campaign is the thing.

Or the ASC Commissioner protesting his competency to execute the guidelines of the Handbook in the selection of the Champion by the approved guidelines.

CNU85

Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on November 12, 2006, 05:24:25 PM
And, quite frankly, seeing a two-loss team be the beneficiary of this stupidity wrankles further.  CNU should be at CMU, not Millsaps.  That's 4 and 5. 

Based on your thought process, which is based on the seeidngs (and remember these are d3football.com seedings...not the  NCAA....there are three beneficiaries...CNU, Milsaps, and W&J......since, if you go by seedings, the last two would have had to make the trip to Texas.

and we all know that region losses count, not out of region...and CNU is a 1 loss team in the region...including a W against UMHB.

I was thinking CNU would have to travel to Texas...which in my mind would have been wrong for reasons stated in earlier posts. I think there are many more variables considered than any of us are even considering. Why did W&L go to the Wilkes bracket? why not put CMU in that bracket and send W&L to CNU.

Also, if you stick with the seedings, that would have meant 2 flights to Texas, and the NCFA does not hide the fact that travel $$$ is a consideration in pairings. I say it's not fair to the Texas teams, yet kudos for the NCFA for keeping d3 sports what it is....non-scholarship athletes and being fiscally responsible. There's not much TV revenue out there for d3 football.

So - be mad for the short hand the Texas teams have been given, but don't dare say anyone is a "beneficiary". CNU deserves a home game.....


CNU85

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 12, 2006, 03:17:33 PM

We're coming, Rikki.
Several questions:

3)  Pressbox facilities, size, quality, etc.?

Bob - I would be surprised if you don't find the facilities one of the best, if not THE best, D3 facilities you have ever been in. Let me know after this week. The coaches in the box will be spoiled as well. I'm sure you've been to many, so I'll be curious to hear your thoughts and opinions.

Oh - and if you're in the box...stick your head out and look in the second to last row...50 yd line and say hi!!!

CNU85

what can I look for from W&J as a fan watching the game......speed, size, key players, offensively oriented, D? both? run, pass? etc.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: CNU85 on November 12, 2006, 06:05:46 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on November 12, 2006, 05:24:25 PM
And, quite frankly, seeing a two-loss team be the beneficiary of this stupidity wrankles further.  CNU should be at CMU, not Millsaps.  That's 4 and 5. 

Based on your thought process, which is based on the seeidngs (and remember these are d3football.com seedings...not the  NCAA....there are three beneficiaries...CNU, Milsaps, and W&J......since, if you go by seedings, the last two would have had to make the trip to Texas.

and we all know that region losses count, not out of region...and CNU is a 1 loss team in the region...including a W against UMHB.

I was thinking CNU would have to travel to Texas...which in my mind would have been wrong for reasons stated in earlier posts. I think there are many more variables considered than any of us are even considering. Why did W&L go to the Wilkes bracket? why not put CMU in that bracket and send W&L to CNU.

Also, if you stick with the seedings, that would have meant 2 flights to Texas, and the NCFA does not hide the fact that travel $$$ is a consideration in pairings. I say it's not fair to the Texas teams, yet kudos for the NCFA for keeping d3 sports what it is....non-scholarship athletes and being fiscally responsible. There's not much TV revenue out there for d3 football.

So - be mad for the short hand the Texas teams have been given, but don't dare say anyone is a "beneficiary". CNU deserves a home game.....

Pat Coleman says these are the official NCAA rankings.

Ron Boerger

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Quote from: CNU85 on November 12, 2006, 06:05:46 PM

So - be mad for the short hand the Texas teams have been given, but don't dare say anyone is a "beneficiary". CNU deserves a home game.....


Nope.  You lost two games (one to a very mediocre team), the NCAA seeded you fifth, both of which means you are getting a home game you don't deserve.   Enjoy it. 

Ralph Turner

I think that we should just have a permanent "Texas Sub-bracket Championship" trophy named for some D3 Luminary.
;D