South Region playoffs

Started by Llamaguy, October 11, 2005, 02:42:00 AM

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BDTartan

I understand what you're saying Pat, but you gotta figure they'd make a little more on W&J at CMU instead of Millsaps.  I just wonder how many Millsaps folks are going to make the trip to frigid Pittsburgh.
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Pat

How much of the gait does the ncaa actually get from each game?
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on November 12, 2006, 10:42:58 PM
Quote from: patcummings on November 12, 2006, 10:32:25 PM
I really don't know what everyone is all upset about.

I mean - the brackets are never perfect. 

The Texas teams play one week ahead of time if form holds.  If both teams were that solid, they would have won in week one and gotten to the game that we will get one week early. 

Well, Pat, if one of your teams was impacted every stinking year due to a fluke in geography and the distribution of Division III teams, you might be more sympathetic.   If the teams play enough to get a top-four seed, the players deserve the chance to play an opponent before their home fans.  The home fans deserve the chance to see their team in the playoffs.   I have no problem if one team is a 3 and another a 6.  But that hasn't happened in recent memory. 

Let's just match up MUC and UW-W in the first round next year.  Everyone knows that it's the game we'll get in the end anyway.
Ron has a very good point.  The top 4 seeds should expect a home game in an 8-team region.  I have no problem with the bottom half of the bracket being sent anywhere.

D3 boasts about the emphasis on the student-athlete and the campus experience.

McMurry dropped its mascot, just so we could continue to vie for the experience of hosting a playoff game.

I believe that there were 3 games that were wrongly bracketed.

UMHB should have gotten Millsaps by bus (a great ASC/SCAC matchup).
HSU, as the #3, should have gotten a W&L.  The winner (HSU?) could go to UMHB for the South Region Southern semis.
#4 CMU should have played nearby W&J, a great game for the student bodies of both institutions.  (How many alums are there in the Pittsburgh area?)
I know that throws #5 CNU into Wesley, but the bottom half of the bracket gets moved around.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 12, 2006, 11:21:11 PM
Pat

How much of the gait does the ncaa actually get from each game?

The NCAA gets 100% of it, I believe, but pays for the transportation and lodging for the visiting school, for a per diem for both teams, etc.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

BDTartan

I agreed with you Ralph, which was my point for making more money off of the first game at Gesling.  Oh well, what's been done can't be undone.
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CNU85

I'm interested in viewpoints on Pool A vs Pool C........does anyone think that a Pool C team should be seeded higher than a Pool A. the point of view would be that a Pool A team is a conference Champion...even though some are 7-3.....should a 9-1 Pool C team get a home game over a conference Champion......I'm not looking at any specific teams or scenarios.....just in principal....

Bob.Gregg

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2006, 11:03:25 PM
The income potential of the D-III football playoffs is pretty small, in all honesty.

While it is small, the W&J/CMU matchup would have brought in MORE and shelled out LESS.
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Bill McCabe

CNU85, I think the seedings should be based on how good the teams are thought to be by the committee.  A Pool C from the OAC or ASC is probably better than most of the teams in the playoffs.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: CNU85 on November 13, 2006, 09:08:13 AM
I'm interested in viewpoints on Pool A vs Pool C........does anyone think that a Pool C team should be seeded higher than a Pool A. the point of view would be that a Pool A team is a conference Champion...even though some are 7-3.....should a 9-1 Pool C team get a home game over a conference Champion......I'm not looking at any specific teams or scenarios.....just in principal....

Ponder the D-I basketball tournament and where the champions of conferences are compared to at-large teams from power conferences. I think this is done ther right way.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Rick Akins

Ralph, Ron and all other people of common sense on this board and the rest of this website--including  the publisher who came up with the perfect and logical south bracket.  You need to read the WEAK quote from Wayne Burrows  of the NCAA in today's Temple Telegram.  Ralph, thanks for pointing out somewhere on here how very likely it is the SOUTH bracket may end up with MORE flights with this stupid decision that  could have been easily avoided with Millsaps to UMHB and some other lower seeded team to HSU.  I also agree with you Ron the Pat Cummings' argument was really really pitiful--any other area would be more angry than we are--we are just resigned to it.  But I believe this "takes the Cake." THEY DON'T EVEN FOLLOW THEIR OWN RULES!!

Pat Coleman

Maybe you could punch in the quote for us. The Daily Telegram's Web site doesn't print the whole story.

The paper also uses the wrong Top 25 poll. :)
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

CNU85

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 13, 2006, 10:57:12 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 13, 2006, 09:08:13 AM
I'm interested in viewpoints on Pool A vs Pool C........does anyone think that a Pool C team should be seeded higher than a Pool A. the point of view would be that a Pool A team is a conference Champion...even though some are 7-3.....should a 9-1 Pool C team get a home game over a conference Champion......I'm not looking at any specific teams or scenarios.....just in principal....

Ponder the D-I basketball tournament and where the champions of conferences are compared to at-large teams from power conferences. I think this is done ther right way.

Good points Pat. It's good to hear various opinions. I tend to agree with Pool C teams of power conferences getting higher seeds of Pool A teams from less competitive conferences. Locally, in HS football the second team in the district received a higher seed than the champion and are seeded #1 in the region playoffs...now that doesn't make sense to me at all. That would be similar to ranking HSU ahead of UMHB. The HS situation is what made me pose the question about Pool C and A teams. It gets complicated when you try to fit 34 teams into a 32 team field. For the first time, I tried to predict the field of 32....I missed it by 2...I had Cortland St and Franklin.

Pat...great job on Sunday. You need more air time!!!

CNU85

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 13, 2006, 09:11:10 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2006, 11:03:25 PM
The income potential of the D-III football playoffs is pretty small, in all honesty.

While it is small, the W&J/CMU matchup would have brought in MORE and shelled out LESS.

as would an in-state W&L/CNU matchup.

Pat Coleman

Thanks. I always wish the show were longer -- shoot, it usually takes me the first segment to feel comfortable with the cameras and I wouldn't mind a third segment where we can talk more about the teams.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

CNU85

When I started watching the segment, I saw d3 highlights and was wnodering, "how do we get CNU highlights on TV". Then the answer became very obvious.....get a bracket called the CNU bracket!!!  ;D
Maybe someday.