South Region playoffs

Started by Llamaguy, October 11, 2005, 02:42:00 AM

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Rick Akins

Pat, I agree--they definitely use the wrong poll!!  Here is the quote from Mr. Burrows--"It's a tough thing to have to put conference members against each other," NCAA  director of championships  Wayne Burrows said.  "If Trinity had gotten in, it would have created some flexibility in the brackets."  Like I said, WEAK!!

Josh Bowerman

Weak and completely oblivious to the arguement.  Mr. Burrows would do well to stop giving quotes since he obviously is ignorant to his own stated policies and procedures--and thereby loses even more credibility with every word.

Of course, when was the last time we could accuse the AA of being a credible organization?

For the record and for the un-initiated, Trinity getting in made no difference one way or the other.  One team still had to fly to Texas, even with two teams (presumably Trinity and HSU) matched up against one another in the first round. 

I think this is an issue the new conference leadership needs to put on their front burner.
"Without struggle, there is no progress."--Frederick Douglass

Toby Taff

Just so we all know that the AA is consistent even in causing fan aggrevation... Abilene Christian University plays West Texas A&M, a conference opponent they beat during the regular season, at WTA&M in the first round of the D2 playoffs.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

CNU85

Consistent in the way they treat Texas teams.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: CNU85 on November 13, 2006, 01:10:06 PM
When I started watching the segment, I saw d3 highlights and was wnodering, "how do we get CNU highlights on TV". Then the answer became very obvious.....get a bracket called the CNU bracket!!!  ;D
Maybe someday.

Brilliant application of your fine CNU education!  :D ;D :D ;D ;) :) 8)

Big-time smiling laugh!

CNU85

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 13, 2006, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 13, 2006, 01:10:06 PM
When I started watching the segment, I saw d3 highlights and was wnodering, "how do we get CNU highlights on TV". Then the answer became very obvious.....get a bracket called the CNU bracket!!!  ;D
Maybe someday.

Brilliant application of your fine CNU education!  :D ;D :D ;D ;) :) 8)

Big-time smiling laugh!

I'm as sharp as a beer commercial...Brilliant!!

Ralph Turner

Quote from: mhb8904 on November 13, 2006, 02:02:49 PM
Just so we all know that the AA is consistent even in causing fan aggrevation... Abilene Christian University plays West Texas A&M, a conference opponent they beat during the regular season, at WTA&M in the first round of the D2 playoffs.

We have a Texas Sub-region in D2.  Midwestern State also made D2.

(There are no AQ's in the 24 team D2 playoffs.)

CNU85

Actually Ralph, If I relied solely on my CNU (CNC at the time) education I'd still be wondering how....my grad work from another fine VA institution  was put to the test.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: RWayneBurrows on November 13, 2006, 01:18:47 PM
"It's a tough thing to have to put conference members against each other. If Trinity had gotten in, it would have created some flexibility in the brackets."

AKA since Trinity, UMHB, HSU would have been seeded 2-3-4 it would have been "not only can we screw HSU in the first round, but then we can screw one of the first-round winners out of a deserved home game in the second round.  Not only that but it wouldn't have been nearly so obvious as what we ended up doing!!"

Rick Akins

Eric Drennan has a great column in today's Temple Daily Telegram about the ncaa and the south bracket--with several more inane, asinine and nonsensical quotes from Mr. Burrows  of the ncaa.  I have emailed Eric and asked him to send it to Pat@d3football.com.  I hope he will.  Only the first part of the column is on their website.  Believe me, the quotes only get  better.   He makes absolutely no sense!!  The ASC at some point has to at least try to hold them accountable to their own rules.  This year was a perfect time to bring some fairness to Texas,  USING THEIR OWN CRITERIA, and they absolutely blew it big time--either out of malice or more likely ignorance.  Ralph Turner has pointed out on the Daily Dose that there will very likely be more flights  this year with this south bracket than the one proposed by d3 football.com.  Will the ncaa consider hiring the d3football.com experts to construct the brackets next year since you obviously understand their rules better than the bureaucrats and the committee? I am only half kidding!!


Ralph Turner

#1480
What I think actually happened in Bracketgate 2006 is that the NCAA's Championship Committee administrative flunkie for D3 (my cynical side says that we in D3 get the administrative aides that have the IQ's lower than a D-1 scholarship football player while a D3 grad runs the NFL) did not run thru all of the implications of the "switch to msn.mappoint.com" rules change.  There was a blurb in the Athletic Administrators monthly newsletter in September (?) about permitting qualifying "200-mile in-region" games under the old system this year.

I will bet that the "500-mile mappoint.com shortest distance" flaw may be in all of the instruction booklets in all D3 championship packets (Soccer Volleyball, basketball, baseball, etc.), and we posters (especially Pat Coleman's eagle-eyes) just brought it to light in our discussions.  When his projections of Millsaps bussing to UMHB did not occur, that is when the administrative flaw became apparent.

The D1 and D2 NCAA handbooks have an upper midlevel administrator over the D1 and D2 Football Championships.  C Wayne Burrow, "NCAA Director of Championships", who probably had no idea that some junior underling in the D3 section of the NCAA had messed up, did not comprehend of the nature or the consequences of this administrative SNAFU.

If he had said that we had a SNAFU, then it would have just gone away.

(SNAFU just seems to be the right term for this.  You World War II historians will remember the origin of "Situation Normal--All Fouled Up" ). ;)

Ron Boerger

Good post, Ralph.  +K for you since someone seems to be dinging people who point out the FA's not perfect. 

Toby Taff

Ron,

There's a 2A poster lurking about... get a rope ;)
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Rick Akins

Ralph:   Once again you have probably figured out what happened--a mess up by a clerk-SNAFU as you said.   Then Mr. Burrow needs to step up and say we messed up and apologize.  If you read the Telegram article I referred to earlier you will see he did nothing of the sort.  Just a bunch of garbage about  8 hour vs. 9 hour bus rides and other cover my tail junk. I am a big boy--if they will admit it, I will shut up for this year.

CNU85

Being an outsider to the Texas issue.....it seems to happen every year. That is more than a SNAFU...it's a BOHICA!!!

Bend Over, Here It Comes Again!