South Region playoffs

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Bob.Gregg

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2007, 12:01:49 PM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 07, 2007, 09:19:53 PM
Ralph, I would agree with the notion that you could use the secondary criteria when comparing Salisbury and Waynesburg.  And only then if you found most other things to be relatively equal, which their in-region record will not be.

Waynesburg 7-1
Salisbury 5-1

They tend to treat these two numbers as equal, actually. Remember this is not a math problem.

Quote from: Pat Colemanfrom the blog...
... regional winning percentage (really, in-region losses)...

Where in the criteria does the committee straight-up exchange "regional winning percentage" for "in-region losses"?  Or is that one of those things they do but don't write?
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Pat Coleman

I'm judging by having watched the results in action. Haven't seen 6-1 or 7-1 treated differently from 8-1 and 9-1 in the past.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Pat Coleman

Here's a good visual example from earlier this season:

West Region
No. Name In-Region Overall
1. UW-Whitewater 6-0 6-1
2. St. John's 7-0 8-0
3. Central 7-0 8-0
4. Occidental 6-0 6-0
5. St. Norbert 7-0 8-0
6. Redlands 4-1 5-1
7. Bethel 6-1 6-1
8. Wartburg 7-1 7-1
9. Linfield 3-1 4-2
10. UW-Stevens Point 3-1 6-1
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Bob.Gregg

#1713
An in-season Regional Rankings is one thing.

The Selection Sunday rankings are an entirely different matter...

Witness the protests that have taken place that the National Committee doesn't release the final regional rankings.
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Bob.Gregg

Straight up, yes or no question:

Are you saying that the NATIONAL committee will look at the following as being identical records:

5-1 in region
7-1 in region

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Pat Coleman

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 08, 2007, 04:00:14 PM
Straight up, yes or no question:

Are you saying that the NATIONAL committee will look at the following as being identical records:

5-1 in region
7-1 in region

Yes, that is my observation. That's all I can tell you, since I have never been a
member of the national committee.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2007, 03:52:31 PM
I'm judging by having watched the results in action. Haven't seen 6-1 or 7-1 treated differently from 8-1 and 9-1 in the past.

Quote from: Pat Colemanfrom the blog...
... regional winning percentage (really, in-region losses)...
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 08, 2007, 03:56:00 PM
The Selection Sunday rankings are an entirely different matter...

Why is this the case? Do the criteria change on Selection Sunday that we're not aware of?
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Bob.Gregg

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2007, 04:07:00 PM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 08, 2007, 03:56:00 PM
The Selection Sunday rankings are an entirely different matter...

Why is this the case? Do the criteria change on Selection Sunday that we're not aware of?

I didn't say the criteria changed on Selection Sunday.  I'm saying that the criteria is based on a complete body of work on Selection Sunday.  That's a completely different picture on which the evaluation is made.

Apparently, we're going to disagree.  So be it.

I know this:  If you and I are competing for one last spot in the tournament, I'd rather be 7-1 instead of 5-1 with comparable OWP & OOWP...
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Pat Coleman

That's nice and all, but what makes you more comfortable isn't really what's going to get you in the tournament. :)

And I guess I don't see what hair you're splitting between the complete body of work through 10 weeks and the complete body of work through 11 weeks. The same evaluation is made as if the season were over every time they make the evaluation.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Bob.Gregg

I've put all the conference races, key games, head-to-head tiebreakers, AQ berths, Pool B & C eligibles all in one place:

http://www.wjpa.com/All-in-One-Races.htm

Hope someone else finds this useful today...
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 10, 2007, 09:40:49 AM
I've put all the conference races, key games, head-to-head tiebreakers, AQ berths, Pool B & C eligibles all in one place:

http://www.wjpa.com/All-in-One-Races.htm

Hope someone else finds this useful today...
+1, Thanks!

Carl Menist

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 10, 2007, 09:40:49 AM
I've put all the conference races, key games, head-to-head tiebreakers, AQ berths, Pool B & C eligibles all in one place:

http://www.wjpa.com/All-in-One-Races.htm

Hope someone else finds this useful today...

Thanks Bob. Nice Job.

Bob.Gregg

Carl,

After twice screwing up Millsaps this week, it's the least I could do...
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Ron Boerger

Agreed, very nicely done, Bob.  +1

You are going to keep this updated as the day progresses??   ;)

cgmatch

With the win today improving Mississippi College's record to 8-2.  What are the chances that they make the playoffs?