South Region playoffs

[wesleydad]

sader, that is all nice and everything, but remember that umhb was sent home in 2 of the last 3 years by some team out of dover, delaware.  i think they are called the wesley wolverines, who i believe are one of only 3 teams, whitewater and muc being the others, to play in the region final the last 3 years which i think would trump umhb's 5 straight years of winning in the first round.  wesley has won the first round the last 4 years, not making the playoffs 5 years ago. 

the last i checked wesley was still planning on getting on a plane thursday evening and flying to texas for a football game on saturday.  since they have played umhb 3 years in a row, winning 2 of them, i think they will show up to play, ignoring your guarentee of their demise.  they will not be intimidated by the setting as the seniors have played in 2 semis and 3 region finals, something that umhb can not claim.

2 good teams that know each other likely makes for a good contest with neither team having a lack of respect for the other, unlike some fans.  enjoy the game if you go, but dont be surprized if it doesnt end up the way you expect it to.  i will be there wearing a #13 jersey so stop by and say hi, always nice to meet other fans, even if they are over the top with their support of their team.

[yessir]

I wouldn't be marking anything on my calendar just yet.  Irrespective of the school you support.  I'd be willing to bet that the folks at MUC were marking the calendar for Salem in 2004 when UMHB surprised them and they ended up sitting at home.

I totally agree.....I am Crusader through and through but there's a difference between being confident that ur team will perform well and counting your chicken before they hatch.....and ur counting chickens man. I don't care who's playing who....never look forward to the next week....that's when you get beat 'This" week.

[skunks_sidekick]

Toby....we STILL don't accept that defeat.......we have hired a high-powered attorney to petition to NCAA to wipe that game off the books!   

Here's to meeting MHB sooner rather than later for the "revenge game". 

[Toby Taff]

Toby....we STILL don't accept that defeat.......we have hired a high-powered attorney to petition to NCAA to wipe that game off the books!  

Here's to meeting MHB sooner rather than later for the "revenge game". 

Sorry to dig up that memory, but it seemed apropos.   I could go for a December rematch this year.

[K-Mack]

Interested to hear what others have to say. Especially the guys that think a coach would bus his players 8+ hours for a playoff game....

Um..... the NCAA will only fly teams if the distance is over 500 miles.  So, yeah, a coach may have to bus his team 8 hours if he wants them to play. 

In case this isn't totally clear, the NCAA picks up the tab for ALL playoff travel. (a major difference between Division III and NAIA, where schools foot their own bill)

The NCAA's deal is this: They pay for 52 players and 10 coaches/support staff. If the game is more than 500 miles away, they will fly you. If it is less than, they will pay for your buses. Included is per diem for meals, etc.

UMHB and Millsaps are famously close to the 500-mile limit. You might run a search on MapQuest or Google maps and get over 500, and if you use the NCAA's approved mileage calculating software wrong, as it is assumed the committee did when building the brackets in 2006, you could get more than 500. If you use it correctly, you get 491.

That explain it?

[Sader4life]

Oh K-Mack no-one knows the mileage between UMHB and Millsaps better than Mary-Hardin Baylor fans! Being a football fan in 2006 and a basketball fan in 2008 we have felt the pinch of the "NCAA Mileage calculating software." In 2006, UMHB did not get to host Millsaps in the first round of the playoffs because it was 530 miles from Belton to Jackson. So the NCAA went against their dream of "not pitting conference foes against each other in the first round" and decide to make the ASC look bad and ruin our hopes of having a better record to save an extra dime. Fast forward 2 years and the UMHB Basketball team compiles a phenomenal 25-2 record and cross their fingers possibly hoping to host the First Round of the Tournament with Millsaps and Maryville having to come to Belton. And lo and behold the NCAA suddenly figures that the distance between Belton and Jackson is 491 miles and UMHB is sent by bus to a place that was preiously over 500 miles. Did Millsaps suddenly change the location of their campus? " Are the basketball courts and the football stadium that far apart? I guess this was the one "mishap." I did not ever understand- Are the statements about pitting conference foes against each other and flying teams if the distance is over 500 miles not hard and fast rules and can be manipulated to suit the NCAA needs, please make me understand.

[Sader4life]

Oh and by the way if my "strong predicition" of a Millsaps and UMHB South Region Final is wrong. I will try to be the first one on here to concede defeat and apologize to those I offended by my outlandish prediction. Am I backing away from what I said ahead of the storm......definitely not that's truly what I believe will happen- I am just man enough to admit when I am wrong..........if I am wrong

[frank_ezelle]

Fortunately, the football field is now within 500 miles of Belton as well and we will be glad to host the UMHB football team as long as the results are the same as the basketball tournament.

Both Millsaps and UMHB have some hard work to do today in order to make that rematch a reality.  BTW, regarding your prediction of a Millsaps-UMHB final, both of those teams should be favored today because of the home field advantage if for no other reason.  With wet weather at Millsaps, I think the key in Jackson will be which team commits the fewest turnovers.

[Toby Taff]

sader4life,

we may have been the reason they new Millsaps was within the driving distance in 08, because i guarantee they heard it a lot after the 06 debacle.    beside millsaps is 530 miles if you drive up I35 to I20 and over.  It is not, however, if you drive it like every Texan i've ever met and take 31 to Tyler ad catch i20 there.

As far as this statement goes:

Oh and by the way if my "strong predicition" of a Millsaps and UMHB South Region Final is wrong. I will try to be the first one on here to concede defeat and apologize to those I offended by my outlandish prediction.

I don't think outlandish predictions necessarily were the problem.  By all means be a homer, I am, be outlandish if you like, but be respectful.  I'd bet you that I've been a Crusader fan longer than you have, and I have gone off the deep end with predictions, and I have seen the Cru embarrassed in sports when i was talking crap and had to eat my words.  I would like to say I always was respectful, but I can't, at times i came across as a jerk, and your posts about the game came across as dismissive and jerky.  Even yessir said it was egg counting, and he's about as bragadocious for the cru as they come.  i certainly hope the prediction is spot on, I'd just say show some respect when making them.  No need to give a good team bulletin board fodder.

[Ron Boerger]

Oh and by the way if my "strong predicition" of a Millsaps and UMHB South Region Final is wrong. I will try to be the first one on here to concede defeat and apologize to those I offended by my outlandish prediction

Picking the #1 and #2 seeds to meet in the regional finals is hardly outlandish 

[Teamski]

Not a good start for Wesley, a lost fumble on the first offensive play by Aaron Jackson.... 

-Ski

[Teamski]

.....Which results in a touchdown for MHB on the subsequent offensive series...

Those turnovers drives me nuts!

-Ski

[Pat Coleman]

Anyone have a score/time update on Millsaps/W&J? I just watched an entire change of possession and didn't get either of them, nor a scoreboard shot on the video.

[Teamski]

Crusaders up 10-0.  They are overpowering the Wesley defensive line and running effectively.  Wesley held the Cru on a goal-line stand that resulted in the field goal.  Two Wolverines are gimpy already, Santiago and Ward.  The offense really needs to kick in, have a fumble and a 3 and out.

-Ski

[Teamski]

Well, it's getting ugly.  Wesley was driving down the field, got to the 20 and McSweeny fumbled the ball allowing MHB to run it back for another TD.... 17-0 UMBH....  Those turnovers just kill a talented team like Wesley....

-Ski