MBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Being a long time follower of the SCAC, I will be shocked if Centre doesn't make the trip to Salem! These kids deserve it. If they can slide by Depauw game...they will be a lock for Salem.

Still a month left before the bids are even selected, and we've already got a stone cold lead pipe Final Four lock.  Mark it down, friends.  Hedge your bets now, apparently. 

Less than three weeks, actually.

[DPU3619]

To Disguntled Depauw fan (wes anderson): Sorry you a had a bad day because your team lost but that is no reason to attack my integrity.

It's not about that and we both know it.  Running your mouth has nothing to do with who won and who lost.  Don't talk to me about emotional immaturity when you spew a bunch of garbage about how Centre's the greatest team on planet earth in the first post you make on this message board.  It doesn't work like that, hotshot. 

Maybe you want to reel in the optimism a little bit instead of being horribly offensive to fan bases of other teams in this league by telling me exactly how much they're going to fall to the mighty, wonderful, strong, lovely, exceptional, exquisite Colonels of Centre College.  Anytime you want to dismount that high horse would be fantastic for everybody else. 

I'm not going to tell you how to conduct yourself here.  It's certainly not my place to do so.  But, consider the following a friendly tip from somebody who has been around here for a little bit.  You're traveling down a slippery slope here.  There aren't going to be many people who take heed to single thing you post if that's the kind of attitude you're going to have about it.  If that's what you're after, then I wish you the best of luck.  It isn't going to be a very enjoyable stay here and it ain't just the two DePauw grads here who are going to be unhappy with you.  I'm not horribly biased towards DePauw.  I hope Centre does great in the tourney once they get there.  But, I certainly didn't take kindly to you scoffing at DePauw before the game and then giving them no credit afterwards.

You seem like a nice enough guy.  I don't believe you're here just to piss everybody off.  If I'm right about that, then maybe you should re-examine the abrasiveness you have towards the other teams in this league and their fans.

[hendrixfan]

That will be interesting if 3 teams end up at 6-9 but I think I'll let the SCAC office figure that out if that's the final result. 

Was a real shame for Warrior fans that Hendrix didn't get the sweep after the win on Friday night at Trinity.  No excuses, but I really wish the travel plans would've allowed a Sunday game instead of Saturday night. 

Now, I'm not at all sure about this, but:
If the scenario plays out with a three-way tie with SU, AC & HC, the head-to-head wouldn't matter since all three teams split with each other. 
If in-division wins is the next tie-breaker, it would favor Hendrix, so it appears the Warriors are in at least the #4.
After that, I don't know!  Maybe a win at Millsaps would be the easiest thing to settle the deal!!!

Someone with more SCAC experience will have to unravel the tie-breaker system!

[OLD STUDENT/ATHLETE]

Of course, how much credit can you get by playing a close game with Centre since they are obviously a weak team.  I say that because they lost to Rust College to open the season so obviously Centre is an average team at best despite the 20 game winning streak that has followed that season opening loss.

This is my first post, so I apologize if I have not done this properly. That "weak" , "average" team from Centre, has once again won a close one in an opponent's gym with a large, biased crowd. De Pauw has a great team, and it was a great game. Centre has continued to show that it can find a way to win. With a student body of 1000 students, no D1 or Junior College transfers, high academic standards, and two seniors who will be entering medical school and an MBA program upon graduation, Centre and Coach Mason have produced a "strong" and "above average"  team in many ways.. Their season has already been a great success, and continued wins are only gravy. Obviously, the SCAC has three great teams in Centre, De Pauw, and
Millsaps who will continue to represent the league in a "strong" and "above average" manner. With the academic and time management problems that
the players on the aforementioned teams have as student athletes, I nor anyone should never characterize them as "weak" or "average".

[hendrixfan]

Of course, how much credit can you get by playing a close game with Centre since they are obviously a weak team.  I say that because they lost to Rust College to open the season so obviously Centre is an average team at best despite the 20 game winning streak that has followed that season opening loss.

This is my first post, so I apologize if I have not done this properly. That "weak" , "average" team from Centre, has once again won a close one in an opponent's gym with a large, biased crowd. De Pauw has a great team, and it was a great game. Centre has continued to show that it can find a way to win. With a student body of 1000 students, no D1 or Junior College transfers, high academic standards, and two seniors who will be entering medical school and an MBA program upon graduation, Centre and Coach Mason have produced a "strong" and "above average"  team in many ways.. Their season has already been a great success, and continued wins are only gravy. Obviously, the SCAC has three great teams in Centre, De Pauw, and
Millsaps who will continue to represent the league in a "strong" and "above average" manner. With the academic and time management problems that
the players on the aforementioned teams have as student athletes, I nor anyone should never characterize them as "weak" or "average".

OS/A...
I think if you read everything in context, you'll see that Frank was being sarcastic because his team, Millsaps, had been accused of being weak after an early season loss.
The true SCAC fan is proud of all our teams that do well.  Centre, DePauw & Millsaps have made all of us proud by being recognized in the polls this year.

[pbrooks3]

Frank, if I could give karma, I would. This board is all about the SCAC. Of course I am beaming over the way the Centre Colonels play after witnessing that less than grand performance back in LaGrange against Rust. The 2 seniors are great character student-athletes that lead this team by example. Not to mention the fine coaching job by Greg Mason this season. Given that UW-Whitewater got blasted last night, I expect Centre to be #2 this week in the polls. The ranking in my opinion helps the entire league. Given some of the other losses among the top 25, I think it's possible Millsaps cracks the 25 again with a victory today at Trinity. DePauw should remain right on the edge; they are a fine team and I look for them to make noise in the tournament.

[FlightofthePetrel]

If anyone is attending the Oglethorpe Rhodes game, would you mind posting updates- or pointing me in the right direction to finding live stats or a broadcast if available?   thanks

[pbrooks3]

I will post updates on the men's game at Rhodes today.

[FlightofthePetrel]

Pbrooks... any chance you could give a  halftime and final score of the girls game as well?

[frank_ezelle]

First off, thank you Hendrixfan for taking the time to actually read my entire post and to understand my comment in the context in which it was written.  I'm starting to learn that my posts need to be more simplistic, not because of a lack of intelligence by other board members, but I think people glance through the posts due to lack of time and they just pick up on sentences without taking the time to pick up the entire conversation.

FOR THE RECORD, I do not think that Centre is a weak or average team because they lost to Rust earlier in the year, JUST AS I DON'T THINK Millsaps is a weak team because they only beat Louisiana College by 2 points in the second game of the season, JUST AS I DON'T THINK the 2006-07 Mississippi College team was weak because they lost to little old Wesley College in the first game of the year. 

Please go back and read my posts where I mentioned Centre and I think you'll catch this point.  What I do think is that Centre is a very good team that is no where near the #2 or #3 best team in the country.  I say that because I think that Centre, Millsaps, and DePauw are all just about even (with Trinity not too far behind), and I have a hard time believing that the SCAC has 3 teams that are among the very best in America.  The SCAC has 3 very good teams that hopefully will get into the NCAA Tournament, but I just don't think they are at the very top of all of D3 basketball.

[OLD STUDENT/ATHLETE]

Frank-I apologize if I upset you, but my earlier comment was because I and others were discussing your comments at a recent game. Both myself and the others had not researched the history of your comments to understand that it was tongue in cheek. However, your comments about Millsaps, Centre, and DePauw being very even but not at the top of Divison III are somewhat troubling. I don't believe that there is a dominant team or teams in Division III this year, and if you compare scores from similar opponents, I believe that there are twenty (20) teams that could win the whole thing. It would not surprise me at all if either Millsaps or DePauw won out, and went far into the tournament. They both have size, shooting, speed, and defense. Certainly, Amherst is the team to beat, with Division 1 size, but they were beaten by a team, Brandeis I believe, that Millsaps, DePauw, or Centre could compete with according to common opponents.

[frank_ezelle]

OS/A--No apology needed.  I do have a problem of posts that are too long and I can see how someone could scan them and pick up the wrong impression.  During football season it was a Millsaps fan who jumped all over me in a similar situation.

On how the SCAC teams rank, I truthfully hope you are correct.  The way polls are done with the general rule being that if you keep winning then you keep moving up, Centre has certainly done what it takes to be as high as they are.  I just don't think I would consider them the favorite to win on a neutral court against all but 1 or 2 D3 programs in the nation.  Likewise with Millsaps.

Speaking of Millsaps, I am concerned about the game at Trinity today, especially after Millsaps got off to a slow start at Southwestern on Friday.  At the moment Millsaps has started off well and they lead 22-16 after 9 minutes.  Live stats are at this link:  http://www.trinity.edu/departments/athletics/MBasketball/livestats/xlive.htm

[pbrooks3]

OU 10-6 in the early going.

[pbrooks3]

At 12:42 mark, OU leads 18-15.

[frank_ezelle]

With 6:23 to go, Millsaps leads 64-58.  Millsaps has 3 players with 4 fouls each (Rogan, Montgomery, and Cameron Varnado) and a total of 18 fouls compared to 9 for Trinity.  That's surprising with Trinity usually being a physical team.

I don't have a good feeling about this game with Rogan and Montgomery have 4 fouls each.  Something tells me that neither will be eligible by the time the final buzzer goes off.