MBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[DPU3619]

However, if I was going to rank them, it would be Britt, Montgomery, King, and Moore, and Moore 4th only because next year probably will be his year.

So his eligibility status is held against him?  You're saying he shouldn't win it just because he's a junior? 

If that's so, should Nestheide have won it last year? 

[jekelish]

i'll be able to post updates from AC this weekend as well.

[OLD STUDENT/ATHLETE]

However, if I was going to rank them, it would be Britt, Montgomery, King, and Moore, and Moore 4th only because next year probably will be his year.

So his eligibility status is held against him?  You're saying he shouldn't win it just because he's a junior? 

If that's so, should Nestheide have won it last year? 

[OLD STUDENT/ATHLETE]

However, if I was going to rank them, it would be Britt, Montgomery, King, and Moore, and Moore 4th only because next year probably will be his year.

So his eligibility status is held against him?  You're saying he shouldn't win it just because he's a junior? 

If that's so, should Nestheide have won it last year? 

I don't believe that Moore is on the same level with Britt, Montgomery, or King, but next year with the players in the league that graduate this year and from DePauw (they loose 3 starters), he will be the dominant player in the league. I think Nestide won last year because he and Montgomery were the dominant players in the league last year, and Nestide barely won POTY over Montgomery.

[pbrooks3]

I believe OS/A is shortchanging Moore's skills and value relative to the other guys. 

Curious as to how many of the regular posters on the SCAC board are making the trip to Conway for the tournament?  Hope to meet a few of you when I'm there. 

[OLD STUDENT/ATHLETE]

PBrooks-Concerning Moore, perhaps you are right. I only see him play 3-5 times a year,twice during the regular season with Centre, and the rest of the time at the tournament which I always go to. He is probably more valuable to his team than Britt, because he's a point guard, but Britt backs up Nestide at the point also. In their head to head contact this year, Moore was 11-24 FG, 5-13 3pt., 10 assists, 8 turnovers, averaged 15 ppg and 37 minutes; Britt was 15-23 FG, 5-9 3pt, 1 assist, 2 turnovers, averaged 19 ppg, and 31 minuntes. Both great players, but they play different positions, and the most important statistic is, Centre won both games.

[DPU3619]

In their head to head contact this year, Moore was 11-24 FG, 5-13 3pt., 10 assists, 8 turnovers, averaged 15 ppg and 37 minutes; Britt was 15-23 FG, 5-9 3pt, 1 assist, 2 turnovers, averaged 19 ppg, and 31 minuntes.

In the other games, Moore's done considerably better.  What's the point?  The two games they've opposed each other weigh more than the other 25 they play?

I asked this question earlier and never got an answer.  How does seeing one player playing against only one opponent once or twice count as forming a informed opinion on the best candidate?

[DPU3619]

Not good news for the Majors this week in the region rankings.  They do not pass DePauw and they do not collect $200.  Perhaps they aren't "more in than DePauw" as I stated a couple of days ago.

1. Centre 21-1 16-1
2. Mary Hardin-Baylor 20-3 18-2
3. Guilford 19-4 18-4
4. Virginia Wesleyan 19-5 18-4
5. Maryville (Tenn.) 21-2 15-2
6. DePauw 18-5 15-4
7. Millsaps 21-3 16-2
8. Randolph-Macon 18-5 13-5

[OLD STUDENT/ATHLETE]

In their head to head contact this year, Moore was 11-24 FG, 5-13 3pt., 10 assists, 8 turnovers, averaged 15 ppg and 37 minutes; Britt was 15-23 FG, 5-9 3pt, 1 assist, 2 turnovers, averaged 19 ppg, and 31 minuntes.

In the other games, Moore's done considerably better.  What's the point?  The two games they've opposed each other weigh more than the other 25 they play?

I asked this question earlier and never got an answer.  How does seeing one player playing against only one opponent once or twice count as forming a informed opinion on the best candidate?

It doesn't, but the coaches who vote on POTY only see each candidate "once or twice" a year.

[FlightofthePetrel]

I won't be making it to Conway for the tournament... it always seems to fall on opening weekend for tennis and I'll be busy disposing of Piedmont, Methodist and Averrett on consecutive days.

I'm really excited that the game will be broadcast on a live video feed... with live stats... and a plethora of options to listen (DPU, OU and Trinity?).

This should be one of the best tournaments in a few years with lots of parity.

[DPU3619]

It doesn't, but the coaches who vote on POTY only see each candidate "once or twice" a year.

Well, I've got a hunch who Greg Mason is voting for anyway.

[OLD STUDENT/ATHLETE]

wes-You know a coach can't vote for a player on his team.

[frank_ezelle]

Not good news for the Majors this week in the region rankings.  They do not pass DePauw and they do not collect $200.  Perhaps they aren't "more in than DePauw" as I stated a couple of days ago.

1. Centre 21-1 16-1
2. Mary Hardin-Baylor 20-3 18-2
3. Guilford 19-4 18-4
4. Virginia Wesleyan 19-5 18-4
5. Maryville (Tenn.) 21-2 15-2
6. DePauw 18-5 15-4
7. Millsaps 21-3 16-2
8. Randolph-Macon 18-5 13-5

Very disappointing.  Baseball, football and now basketball--I've just about come to the conclusion that Millsaps needs to win the AQ in order to get into the NCAA tournament.

[pbrooks3]

In their head to head contact this year, Moore was 11-24 FG, 5-13 3pt., 10 assists, 8 turnovers, averaged 15 ppg and 37 minutes; Britt was 15-23 FG, 5-9 3pt, 1 assist, 2 turnovers, averaged 19 ppg, and 31 minuntes.

In the other games, Moore's done considerably better.  What's the point?  The two games they've opposed each other weigh more than the other 25 they play?

I asked this question earlier and never got an answer.  How does seeing one player playing against only one opponent once or twice count as forming a informed opinion on the best candidate?

It doesn't Wes.  No one is admitting that we're employing the scientific method.  I selected Moore on the basis of seeing him play one time, and listening to DePauw radio on 2 occasions.  I formed my opinion on the basis of what little I saw or heard, along with combing through stats, reading what I could on games, teams and players, picking up information from others on this message board, and my own basketball prejudices.  I suspect the rest of you use a similar approach for arriving at your choices.  That's why we leave it to a compilation by the coaches.  But as I said once before, it sure is fun to give one's opinion on the topic, even if it's considered uninformed by every other poster!

[golden_dome]

Not good news for the Majors this week in the region rankings.  They do not pass DePauw and they do not collect $200.  Perhaps they aren't "more in than DePauw" as I stated a couple of days ago.

1. Centre 21-1 16-1
2. Mary Hardin-Baylor 20-3 18-2
3. Guilford 19-4 18-4
4. Virginia Wesleyan 19-5 18-4
5. Maryville (Tenn.) 21-2 15-2
6. DePauw 18-5 15-4
7. Millsaps 21-3 16-2
8. Randolph-Macon 18-5 13-5

Hard to believe that a 4-loss Depauw team would be ahead of a 2-loss Millsaps team in the regional rankings. Especially when looking at the RPI numbers posted earlier this week. I know DePauw has the head to head, but I wouldn't think it would be used with a 2-game advantage.

Reg Conf Rank Prior RPI    OWP    OOWP   School                       Natl Status      Reg Overall
SO  54   01   01   0.6101 0.5001 0.4989 Centre                          006  A w C       16-1 21-1
SO  51   02   02   0.5945 0.4832 0.5116 Mary Hardin-Baylor          014  A w C       18-2 20-3
SO  53   03   05   0.6074 0.5431 0.5251 Virginia Wesleyan            017  A w C       18-4 19-5
SO  53   04   04   0.6073 0.5403 0.5305 Guilford                          019  C 3         18-4 19-4
SO  54   05   06   0.5840 0.4756 0.4958 Millsaps                          024  C 6         16-2 21-3
SO  52   06   03   0.5817 0.4729 0.4986 Maryville (Tenn.)              030  B 1         15-2 21-2
SO  54   07   07   0.5698 0.5000 0.5016 DePauw                          049  C second    14-4 18-5
SO  53   08   08   0.5926 0.5592 0.5299 Randolph-Macon               054  C second    13-5 18-5
SO  51   09   11   0.5554 0.4870 0.5107 Mississippi College             066  C third     145 17-5
SO  53   10   09   0.5968 0.6127 0.5118 Roanoke                          070  C third     13-7 15-7
SO  53   11   13   0.5595 0.5193 0.5327 Washington and Lee          084              126 14-8