MBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[CutDownTheNets]

Come on about the ref stuff at Centre.   Have you thought for minute how far the refs would travel in this conference to avoid reffing a school close to them.   The opposite is true.  I'm sure they ref geographically as close to their homes as often as they can.   (Think about CO coming into the league next year. )  I bet if you looked into each game every ref is as close to their home as they can be as much as scheduling will allow.   Are there any refs from Indiana that ref Depauw?

Remember Depauw lost by 32 points.  What you are telling me is that two free throws for technical and some physical play accounts for a 32 point loss.  Come on!
Centre had 20 fouls called on them for the game and Depauw had 13.  This accurately reflects the more physical team.   Centre did not get into the bonus in the first half and shot one 1+1 in the second.   Again - this accounts for a 32 point loss?  Depauw the defending champ.   Don't you think a team that is the defending champ of a conference and supposedly favored to win the conference tourney can handle a few bumps in the lane?   You're just whining because you got your tail kicked.   Centre lost by 7 at Depauw.  I don't remember any whining coming from KY.   I'm sure it would be easier to account for a 7 point loss by some bad calls than it would A 32 POINT LOSS!

Let's give the Centre kids some credit.   They play lock down defense and they pride themself in it.    The previous three opponents had been held under 40 points.   Centre waxed Depauw.   Take it like men and move on.   

[DPU3619]

Come on about the ref stuff at Centre.   Have you thought for minute how far the refs would travel in this conference to avoid reffing a school close to them.   The opposite is true.  I'm sure they ref geographically as close to their homes as often as they can.   (Think about CO coming into the league next year. )  I bet if you looked into each game every ref is as close to their home as they can be as much as scheduling will allow.   Are there any refs from Indiana that ref Depauw?

I said my solution wasn't very feasible.  Sorry.  My point wasn't that refs from Kentucky were doing the game, it's refs from Danville.  There's a difference there.  In my mind, it's a clear conflict of interest.  Indiana guys ref the DePauw games, but not DePauw grads or guys who ride their bike to the Lilly Center.

Let's give the Centre kids some credit.   They play lock down defense and they pride themself in it.    The previous three opponents had been held under 40 points.   Centre waxed Depauw.   Take it like men and move on.  

Now, did DePauw shoot a horrible 26%?  Yup.  Did Stephen Schott score 0 points?  Yup.  Did Centre burn up the nets?  Yup.  Did DePauw not play well at all in any facet of the game?  Sure.  Would Centre have won without your referees living so close to campus that they could walk there?  Quite likely on that day. 

Apparently, I wasn't clear enough.  DePauw could have gotten every call in the game and still wouldn't have won.  Wouldn't have been that close, either.  I'm not bickering about officiating on February 3rd.  I've been down there three times, and it's been the same three times.

Now stop with your chest thumping.  Jeez Louise.

[Stripes]

Remember Depauw lost by 32 points.  What you are telling me is that two free throws for technical and some physical play accounts for a 32 point loss.  Centre had 20 fouls called on them for the game and Depauw had 13.  This accurately reflects the more physical team.   
Let's give the Centre kids some credit.   They play lock down defense and they pride themself in it.    The previous three opponents had been held under 40 points.    

1. DePauw got their butts kicked. I give total credit to Centre. They are a very good basketball team. So good that they shouldn't need the services   of a Danville ref in most of their home games. The SCAC should be watching ALL schools to ensure that there's no chance of bias.
2. I believe the physical play is welcomed by DePauw. Just as long as it's allowed on both ends of the floor.
3. Centre's 20 fouls to DPU's 13? The second half progressed with the ratio 8 to 1 on Centre vs DPU. Then the reasoning that CutDownTheNets uses came into play. "Uh-oh, that doesn't look fair. Let's fix that ratio." Maybe it should have been 40 to 13. But it wasn't. They weren't called.
4. I'll repeat: Centre is a very good ball team. I'm not suggesting that the win wasn't deserved but maybe the margin of victory doesn't reflect the actual abilities. Maybe they should have won by 10, or 15, or 20. Any way you slice it, it's a big win for Centre.

Good luck to all teams in this weekend's games.

[DPU3619]

I originally said that I thought Centre had to win the whole thing to get in.  I'm starting to think that might not necessarily be the case. 

They've got an awfully slim chance to get that Pool C.  Things are going to have to fall right as far as the favored teams winning other Pool A bids, but with a QoWI at 45 today and a pretty good region winning %, I'm not sure it's a done deal.  We'll have to wait and see how the region rankings change when they come out this afternoon.

If Centre can get to Sunday, that would likely involve a win over Millsaps, which just might nudge that QoWI over 10.

[CutDownTheNets]

Where can you find the QoWI listing?

[Pat Coleman]

We have a message board under multi-region topics where I update the QOWI whenever possible.

[DPU3619]

New region rankings.  DPU up to 4th in the South, Centre moved up one to 7th.

[evacuee]

I got to see my first d3 basketball game of the year last Sunday, when the Roos were at Trinity.  Some of you might know better than I having seen what you have, but I noticed this:

AC's record speaks for itself unfortunately, so it was expected that they would not impress.  However, TU was very average.  There don't appear to be any real play makers on the floor compared to what I've seen in recent years, and their ball movement just doesn't indicate that the players are all that instinctive.  Maybe the uninspiring opponent had them dragging, but I was very discouraged at the disparity between this year's and last year's team.  I was sort of hoping that Trinity had built a self-sustaining program with the recent success.  I'm very surprised that they weren't able to recruit better.  Someone commented that Trinity might have the horses to win the tournament, but they would have to bring their A game.  That makes me wonder what the rest of the conference looks like.  If there was one thing I did not see on the court for the Tigers, it was horses. 

The rest of you probably know better.  Please, someone tell me I'm wrong. 

[JJFlash]

I'm the one that made the "horses" comment regarding Trinity so maybe I should respond to 2698's post.

First, I completely agree that this year's team isn't as good as last year's team.  If my use of the horse metaphor caused you to equate this year's players to the likes of Bates or Burt etc., then I can see why you would draw such a conclusion.  I think it's telling to look at their results and see that from game to game the high scorer changes almost each time and that 6 different names show up.  As I took your comment regarding "horses" it's clear that there isn't one guy who's going to put the team on his back and carry it.  What I was trying to get across is that Trinity has the horsepower (better?) to be a factor in the tournament if they played their A game and only if they play their A game.  I also saw the Austin game on Sunday, and although Trinity was in control from start to finish, I've seen them play better recently and it was these observations that led to the comment.  In the interest of full disclosure I should also say that I also saw them play a completely uninspired game against Hendrix the previous Friday. 

I think this team is "average" as you say.  Their record is perhaps the best indicator of it.  Ironically, their was a point in the season just a few weeks ago where they were .500 in conference, .500 overall and their conference points for and points against were identical.  That may qualify as a definition of "average". 

It has been a different year in San Antonio than you may have become accustomed to in the past.  In prior years, the rotation went 7-8 players deep and these players were almost entirely upperclassmen.  This year's roster has a lot of Sophomores and the rotation regularily extends to the 11th and 12th guys on the bench getting minutes with the game very much in doubt.  Certainly this wide distribution of playing time bodes well for the development of the younger players and the team in the coming years.  It will be intersting to see what Coach C does tomorrow.

[DPU3619]

Well now.  As if things weren't close enough with all this Pool C stuff, now there's one less Pool C bid to be offered.

That'll at least make things more interesting.

[DPU3619]

centre will not beat southwestern.

Southwestern 43
Centre 64

Bold, biased, factually unsupported prediction overboard!  Somebody send out the flotation device.

[evacuee]

Way, way off topic, but...

Do any of you Jackson folk know what is happening with the King Edward hotel?  With a facility like that in full operation, I might be more inclined to make the three hour drive more often. 

Feel free to email me personally on the topic so that the sports folk don't have to read any rhetoric about historic preservation. 

[Ralph Turner]

Congratulations Trinity!  Winners, 50-49 over the Petrels!

[pbrooks3]

Good action today; no real surprises.  My sleeper, Trinity survived.  Prediction for the final: Centre versus Trinity!

[JJFlash]

I saw the Trinity-Oglethorpe game.  It was an exciting game that went down to the wire.  The low scoring was due to some good interior defense and poor shooting on the part of both teams.  Given that all of the higher seeds won today means that nobody qualifies for a "glass slipper".  As a Trinity fan, I'm hoping that the Cinderella factor kicks in tomorrow.