MBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[scacfan]

Frank,

Like you, I was a little confused with Scottiedoug's post... first, I didn't understand the "indifferent to accuracy" comment.  I noted that OU started 0-4 in conference games and have since won seven of eight (the conference games part was implied)... nothing inaccurate about that.  I also wondered what he was implying by saying that since OU had lost to LaGrange and Maryville, that was a hint of what might happen in the NCAA.  If he was comparing SCAC vs. GSAC, I think he has a losing argument, but I'd be happy to get into that with him.

Back to the SCAC, I see the home teams winning most of the games this weekend.  I agree with Frank that OU can beat Centre and DePauw, but I think that's much more likely on a neutral floor.  I've got Centre and DePauw winning two, along with Trinity.  Southwestern beats Austin and loses to Hendrix.  MC takes care of RC at home.  If that happens, the bracket would look like this:

DPU vs. Sewanee
CC vs. SW
MC vs. HC
TU vs. OU

I'd say right now Centre is my favorite, but that could easily change after this weekends results.

[Ralph Turner]

Scacfan, here are the recent NCAA Playoff records for the SCAC and the GSAC (Maryville).

In descending order, the conferences rank ODAC, GSAC, ASC, SCAC, USAC and Independents. However, Maryville is only 1-3 versus the ASC teams.

I have this on Excel file if you wish.

[scottiedoug]

I did not intend to start an argument but to correct the assertion that Oglethorpe had recently lost only to Millsaps.  I have refrained from commenting on this board (despite Maryville's being 4 - 0 vs. the SCAC so far) and enjoyed lurking.

Maryville has done ok vs. the SCAC recently and not so well against the ASC (aka Mississippi College).  I wish the GSAC were bigger and stronger and that more ODAC, SCAC, and USASouth schools would come to Maryville to play so we could see more good teams before the NCAA's without having to play NAIA and D2 schools.

[frank_ezelle]

And I too wasn't attempting to start an argument--it was just a good natured comment that shouldn't be taken too seriously.  Afterall, Millsaps just won at OU by 4 so knocking Maryville for doing the same wouldn't be very logical from a Millsaps fan.

Millsaps won 86-71 yesterday at Wesley College in nearby Florence, MS.  In the past that wouldn't have been a big deal but Wesley is the team that beat MS College in the season opener at MC.  I tried to find info on the game on the Wesley website but there isn't much there on sports.  I did find this link to an interesting story about their team that was 1-31 just two years ago but now has the talent to beat a team like MS College:  http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070111/SPORTS030105/701110349/1085/SPORTS

[Bubba the Petrel]

Oglethorpe started 0-4 in the conference but have rebounded to win 7 of their last 8 with the one loss being a 4 point loss to Millsaps.

Also not trying to start (or continue) an arguement, but scottiedoug - what part of in the conference did you not understand?

[scottiedoug]

I think one reasonably could read your sentence to mean what you intended or what I read.  I do not want Maryville to have to try to beat Oglethorpe again this year.  They are a really good and dangerous bunch when they are playing well, and having seen the Scots twice, they'd have a plan!  Maybe we'll get to surprise some SCAC team that has not had the pleasure of playing Murvul lately.

[frank_ezelle]

I've been checking out the Millsaps stats on the SCAC website with hopes of seeing the box score from the Wesley game last Wednesday.  I'm sure the delay is from Millsaps trying to get the stats from the Wesley staff so who know when the box score will show up.

While looking at the page that shows the box scores and the leading scorers and rebounders, I was surprised at the consistence in the play of Edrick Montgomery this year.  He has been the leading rebounder for Millsaps in 20 of 23 games (in one of those games he was tied with Rodney Rogan).  In the other 3 games he was only one behind the leading rebounder.  The scoring totals aren't as lopsided as he has only been the leading scorer in 12 of 23 games.

I just mention this because I hope the SCAC coaches keep in mind this consistent play when they are voting for the All-SCAC teams.  There are a lot of good players in this league but it would be hard to find anyone who has played more consistently and at such a high level as Edrick has played this season and certainly that has translated into a great season for Millsaps.

[scaccommish]

Frank,
I've been told by the SID at Millsaps that it will probably be Sunday before I get a box...I don't think StatCrew software has made its way to Florence, Miss. yet.

[frank_ezelle]

I figured someone at Millsaps would have to watch a tape and recreate the stats.  Wesley is a school with only 125 students so I don't what they have in the way of an athletic staff.  Of course, as Oak Hill has proven in high school basketball, a small student enrollment isn't a problem if you have the right 10-12 on the basketball team.

[consultant]

Mississippi now has two places that are devoid of statcrew: Florence and Holly Springs (home of Rust College).  Re-creating stats is mandatory for those games.  Learning how to watch film is helpful, too.

On to more important matters, this year's version of the SCAC Tournament is shaping up to be a classic.  The top four or five teams all have legitimate chances of winning.  Once the seeding is set, we'll let the predictions fly.

[Pat Coleman]

Or knowing that if you want to get a box score, you send your own stat crew on the road. That happens at a lot of places, not just Wesley Miss. and Rust.

[irion]

Assuming seeding remains the same, here is how the SCAC Tournament looks from Nashville. I was able to see all of the teams in the tournament play at least once and most of them 2 times or more.   There has to be at least one upset and I think that is Sewanee over DePauw.  Although Sewanee beat DePauw and Ogelthorpe in the regular season, I don't think they have enough depth to beat 2 strong teams in 2 days.  When its all said and done I think Montgomery from Millsaps makes the difference and the Majors win it all.


Round One         
                     
#2 Centre, #7 Southwestern  winner Centre

#3 Millsaps. #6 Hendrix  winner Millsaps

#8 Sewanee , #1 DePauw  winner Sewanee

#4 Oglethorpe, #5 Trinity  winner Ogelthorpe

Semi Finals

#2 Centre, #3 Millsaps  winner Millsaps


#4 Ogelthorpe, #8 Sewanee winner Ogelthorpe


Finals
#4 Ogelthorpe , #3 Millsaps

SCAC Champion
# 3 Millsaps

[FlightofthePetrel]

Hey I like your predictions...     wouldn't it be nice to see this year's seniors return to the finals of the SCAC after a two year break from when they made it as freshman.  It would be a nice was to cap off a career foe Tulowitsky, Dickinson, Bailey, and Woodruff who were all there when OU made the finals last.

[FlightofthePetrel]

I'm just curious...    I was doing a little stat checking and tallied up Ahmad Kareem Shaheed's career rebounds to see when (possibly next season) he would get 500, because he was not of the 3 approaching the 500 mark.    The number I got was 479, putting him almost there, but he is nowhere on the list.  Is there anyone with the SCAC who might be able to double check me with possibly more reliable stats and let me know why he's not on the list yet?

[scaccommish]

Flight,
You are correct. His name was spelled differently in 2005-06 and the career stat generator was not recognizing those numbers. So when I went in and made that change, I now have him at 482 and he has been added to the list.

Thanks for the catch.