East Region Rankings

FROMAFAR · February 19, 2008, 12:57:10 PM

Magic man, I have seen Stevens a few times this year. You make an interesting point about them staying focused. I notice they rarely play poorly at the biginning of the game or when the second half begins. They have one point guard, Greco, an he seems like a tough kid, who makes few mistakes. When he comes out, they lose continuity, Grey is out of position, usually at the top of the key taking some 3's. He also seems to always find a way to get the ball to Williams inside. I'm not sure, was he in foul trouble at the end of the Utica game? He was a big part when Stevens overcame a 10 pt hole, then he was gone???

gobombers15 · February 19, 2008, 04:02:06 PM

Quote from: FROMAFAR on February 19, 2008, 11:07:00 AM
Magic, evrything you say seems right -on... one quetion, Does Fisher still have a shot at top spot in E-*... I thought only Stevens or Ithaca were alive for that? But I've been wrong before....

No, Fisher cannot host. Fisher needs to sweep this weekend to even end up in a tie for the top spot. That means that Fisher has to beat Utica. If Fisher beats Utica, Utica cannot qualify for the E8 Tournament. That means Naz and Ithaca make it, no matter what. So, even though Ithaca, Stevens and Fisher are all 1-1 against each other, both Ithaca and Stevens defeated Nazareth while Fisher was swept by the Golden Flyers. Thus, Fisher loses on that tiebreak.

In other words, Fisher cannot finish with a better conference record than Stevens. Fisher cannot come in a tie with Stevens unless Fisher beats Utica (thus, putting Naz in the E8 Tourney). Stevens has the tiebreak because they swept Naz and Fisher was swept by Naz. The only way for Naz not to be in the tournament would mean that Utica must have beaten Fisher, thus knocking Fisher out of any possibility to host that way.

FROMAFAR · February 20, 2008, 07:48:58 AM

Thanks Gobombers, bear with me guys...

magicman · February 21, 2008, 01:42:25 AM

Regional rankings came out today and as expected there was a shakeup at the top with Plattsburgh St. exchanging places with Univ. of Rochester. Everyone else remains in the same position as last week with Brockport St., Stevens, and Nazareth rounding out the top 5. Plattsburgh climbed into the 11th spot in the D3Hoops top 25 poll while UR dropped to 14th. Stevens nearly fell out of the poll, dropping all the way to 25th place. Brockport gained some more support and wound up in the 31st position.

Plattsburgh is the only school in the nation that remains undefeated in regional play. The next and final regional poll will be released on Feb. 27th.

scooterman · February 21, 2008, 10:13:56 PM

Big weekend for the Bport Eagles--Geneseo on Senior Night!!!Don't look past them--They are tough at home and your two victories over them mean nothing with this one---Don't sleep on the backdoor plays--Good luck---Eagles by 10!!!

bsportsfan · February 23, 2008, 09:53:43 PM

Geneseo 72 Brockport 62 That's why they play the games.

scooterman · February 24, 2008, 10:19:33 AM

Bport dealt severe blow with loss to Knights---The SUNYAC tourney becomes a huge arena for the Eagles--Could possibly slide into NCAA's (Pool C) with a strong showing --two wins and finals loss to the Burg(only loss)--otherwise must win the tourney and seal the deal!!!! Go Eagles!!!

scooterman · February 24, 2008, 10:25:16 AM

As pabegg puts it--The Eagles loss puts them" firmly on the bubble" for Pool C!!!Put the pedal to the metal, Eagles!!!

magicman · February 24, 2008, 04:14:47 PM

Quote from: scooterman on February 21, 2008, 10:13:56 PM
Big weekend for the Bport Eagles--Geneseo on Senior Night!!!Don't look past them--They are tough at home and your two victories over them mean nothing with this one---Don't sleep on the backdoor plays--Good luck---Eagles by 10!!!

Well, You got the 10 part right!

Tough loss. Still think they get in if they make the Finals and lose to the Cards. But they have to make the finals. Which means you will face Cortland or Geneseo in the semi's once they take care of Oneonta. Which one do you want?

scooterman · February 24, 2008, 10:15:49 PM

I would prefer Geneseo again--They packed it in and few touches inside lots of threes but still like the match ups better than Cortland match ups. Anyway, either way will be a good game if they get by Oneonta on Tuesday. Nothing is a given!!! Go Eagles--

scooterman · February 25, 2008, 12:58:51 PM

Magic-If Bport beats Oneonta on Tuesday it would be probably be Oswego on Friday or Potsdam--Cortland or Geneseo will be playing the Burg---Could be very interesting weekend if all the higher seeds win!!!Go Eagles!!!

thebear · February 25, 2008, 02:29:38 PM

Actually if you read the brackets, they will reseed if there are any 1st round upsets.

for example if 1 & 2 hold serve, but 5 beats 4 and 6 beats 3, they will reseed and 6 will play 1 and 5 will play 2.

This was the case in hockey as well. Not seen it done this way any other place (e.g. the Big Dance), but this seems to be the way it will go down.

First Round Games
Fredonia at Plattsburgh 904 mile round trip in the teeth of a winter storm to get your brains beat in!

Oneonta at Brockport - 'port undefeated at home. Oneonta has a quality shooter in Fish, a solid swing man in Grimes, but may not be athletic enough to stay with the Hawks inside. Game will be more competitive than people think.

Potsdam @ Oswego - Bears almost beat Lakers in November in Oswego (missed inside shot with :03 left, then a confusing end game botched by the referee.) Bears have won 3 of 4, near miss at Cortland on Saturday and finally have most folks healthy. This should be a nail biter, if the weather doesn't intervene. Lakers had three games last week, will huge minutes by starters have an impact?

Geneseo @ Cortland - Will be a really ugly game. Knights may be hottest team in the league after Cards, and both teams have size and shooters. Niehoff - Morton duel should be a classic as will Howe - Lewis. Think the Knights may have a bit more firepower.

Cards7580 · February 25, 2008, 04:03:23 PM

Listening to the weather reports around rochester, it seems that all the snow is going to be around Lake Ontario.

Put on your snow shoes Oswego and break out the dog sleds, here comes another foot or so.

Plattsburgh made the same trip to Fredonia and Buff St and didn't blow either team out. The Cards better not be looking forward, because if Tuesday is not a victory there will be no Fri and Sat in Plattsburgh, no chance to defend the title again and so on.

thebear · February 25, 2008, 04:19:33 PM

But there will be a Pool C Bid for the Cards regardless of what happens. As I recall, Brockport lost in the SUNYAC finals in '03-04, but got a first round bye, and a second round hosting assignment.

magicman · February 25, 2008, 10:42:08 PM

Quote from: thebear on February 25, 2008, 04:19:33 PM
But there will be a Pool C Bid for the Cards regardless of what happens. As I recall, Brockport lost in the SUNYAC finals in '03-04, but got a first round bye, and a second round hosting assignment.

Brockport is also in line to get a Pool C bid even with 1 more loss in the SUNYAC tournament. It looks like the only other NY team to get a Pool C bid will be Univ. of Rochester. No team from the Empire 8 or Liberty League will get a Pool C bid as it stands right now.

In the New England region it looks like Brandeis, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Trinity, and Rhode Island are probable Pool C recipients. That list could be shortened if the current conference frontrunners get upset in their respective tournaments. The UAA conference may end up with 4 bids. Washington U. or Chicago will win the automatic bid depending on the outcome of their game on Saturday March 1st. The loser of that game along with UR and Brandeis will stand a good chance to get in with Pool C's as they come out of 3 different regions.

Brockport also lost in the SUNYAC finals last year to PLattsburgh and got in and went to St. Lawrence, ultimately advancing to the great 8 and just missing out on the final 4.