East Region Rankings

[Jacketfan2011]

If you like math, check out the Pool C topic under multi-regional topics.  May answer your question

[Cyclone0205]

I checked that but I don't like it.  Right now they have Naz as the A w C for the empire 8..eventho Stevens has been in 1st place the entire year and is definitely the A w C of the empire 8.  Like i said, they've already beaten Naz twice head to head, so how Naz gets the A w C is questionable to me.

[gobombers15]

I checked that but I don't like it.  Right now they have Naz as the A w C for the empire 8..eventho Stevens has been in 1st place the entire year and is definitely the A w C of the empire 8.  Like i said, they've already beaten Naz twice head to head, so how Naz gets the A w C is questionable to me.

Maybe everyone stopped watching both Naz/Stevens games with one minute left and assumed Naz held on in both 

[Cyclone0205]

Naz...hold on to a game late?  Couldn't be..that's like the first thing you do is watch a Naz game that's within 10 points with a minute left.  Those always get interesting.

[Jacketfan2011]

Dang....I was hoping you could explain it to me.  You have valid Stevens/Naz issues.  I am curious how UR has a higher RPI, OWP and OOWP and is behind Plattsburgh.  Not looking to piss anyone off.  Just curious.

[magicman]

Dang....I was hoping you could explain it to me.  You have valid Stevens/Naz issues.  I am curious how UR has a higher RPI, OWP and OOWP and is behind Plattsburgh.  Not looking to piss anyone off.  Just curious.

I checked that but I don't like it.  Right now they have Naz as the A w C for the empire 8..eventho Stevens has been in 1st place the entire year and is definitely the A w C of the empire 8.  Like i said, they've already beaten Naz twice head to head, so how Naz gets the A w C is questionable to me.

Jacketfan
I think and I'm only guessing that Plattsburgh is ranked higher than your Yellowjackets because they have no losses in the region as opposed to 3 for UR. Not sure why they consider the 3 losses as regional losses since they were all to teams outside of the East region. Maybe they remember that big win Plattsburgh had over UR in last years 1st round game.  

Cyclone
Naz has a higher RPI, OWP, and OOWP than Stevens so that could be why they're getting the A w C and Stevens is getting the pool C. I wouldn't worry though. Barring a complete collaspe by Stevens they will get a bid even if they lose in the 1st round of the E8 tournament. Also think that Naz gets a bid if they don't win the tournament. They really don't have a bad loss among their 5. Both their losses to UR came when they were ranked #1 in the Nation and both the Stevens losses came when Stevens was ranked higher than their current #22 spot.

I think that Plattsburgh St. and Brockport St. gets in from the SUNYAC conference, assuming that one of them wins the tournament. The other will get a pool C bid. Rochester of course will get a bid regardless and the winner of the Liberty League tournament will get the automatic bid. That will probably be SLU or Hamilton but that league will not get a 2nd team in. In the E8 it's Stevens and Naz, unless Fisher or Ithaca wins the tournament, and then Naz will be SOL.

Above all remember these Pool C rankings aren't the real Pool C ranking but are probably a good approximation given the time and effort pabegg has put into it. I believe he stated the real rankings will come out this Wednesday.

[scooterman]

Magic--I think you rate Naz and Stevens higher than Bport just to get a reaction out of me. The E8 is not stronger than the SUNYAC and the Burg and Bport are better than any E8 team in a 3 out of 5 series. Sorry I disagree with you with those two rankings.

[magicman]

Magic--I think you rate Naz and Stevens higher than Bport just to get a reaction out of me. The E8 is not stronger than the SUNYAC and the Burg and Bport are better than any E8 team in a 3 out of 5 series. Sorry I disagree with you with those two rankings.

Scooterman

Would I do that to you?   You're just not reading me, man. I clearly stated the list I put out there is not the order I would rank the top 15 but the way I think the regional rankings are going to be when they come out on Wed.  I also agreed with you back on Feb. 6th, on this board, that I believe Brockport would probably beat Naz if they played each other. We never discussed Stevens because at that time they weren't listed as an East region team. I think Bport would beat them as well. Brockport was a sweet 16 team last year and they could do it again this year with almost the same team back, so I hear you. I just think the real rankings will spread the wealth around and will be surprised if the SUNYAC occupies better positions than 5 of the top 9 as I have them.

[Cyclone0205]

Scoot/Magic - How much of Stevens have you seen to know Bport would beat them 3/5 times?  Not saying I necessarily disagree with you, just trying to figure out what you are basing that statement on.  I know Magic said Bport was a Sweet 16 team last year and could be again this year, but the same thing could be said about Stevens.  They went to the sweet 16 last year and lost to the eventual national champs, and have that whole team returning, plus the return of their big (who is currently 3rd in the nation in field goal percentage). 


After looking at it, I think 1 more win puts Stevens in, because they can float into the Atlantic/Mid-Atlantic region very easily since they are a Jersey school.  I think the NCAA will look at that and we know how they love to use location in determining teams.  Just wondering how much you guys think being an East region team in NJ helps the ducks?

[scooterman]

The Ducks are obviously a very good team and could go deep into the NCAA's--They will definitely have an advantage being in the East Region and NJ school. It will be very interesting to see Wednesday's ratings. Both squads return everybody and would be an exciting matchup-- Magic--I really do appreciate all your insight--I am very narrowly focused as you can tell--Go Eagles!!!

[e8bballfan]

I checked that but I don't like it.  Right now they have Naz as the A w C for the empire 8..eventho Stevens has been in 1st place the entire year and is definitely the A w C of the empire 8.  Like i said, they've already beaten Naz twice head to head, so how Naz gets the A w C is questionable to me.

Sorry for being the uneducated, but what does the "A w C" and all other abbreviations concerning the d-3 tourney mean? Also, 'Pool C bids' is another way to say 'at-large bids' right?

[Cyclone0205]

A w C basically means that if they don't win the conference automatic bid (A) they'll have a shot as a Pool C team (C). 

Yes, C is the same as At-Large.


The numbers next to the C indicate where you rank out of the potential at large teams.  C 1 - C 18 are the teams that get the at large bids into the tournament.

[e8bballfan]

thanks a lot! and how many teams get in the tourney? 58??

[Pat Coleman]

I think the NCAA will look at that and we know how they love to use location in determining teams. 

They actually do NOT do that at all, whatsoever. They use it to bracket teams but never to select teams.

[Ralph Turner]

thanks a lot! and how many teams get in the tourney? 58??

Actually more than that.  Please see the front page story on the tourney.