East Region Rankings

[FisherDynasty]

Stevens in my opinion definatly would not lose to bport 3 out of 5 times, if anything they would be the favorites.  Stevens would be able to handle bports pressure, after that is done, they are very beatable. They give up way too many easy buckets on the defensive end.  The way stevens gets to the basket i think they would have a field day. 


Also, I dont think stevens getting put in the East region would be better for them then in the NJ.  I think the East is strong this year and is always underrated.  The NJ region in my opinion is weaker.

[scooterman]

Fisher--You are entitled to your opinion but the rankings speak the truth--Sorry my man!!!

[Cyclone0205]

Regional Rankings are now out

1 - Rochester
2 - Plattsburgh
3 - Brockport
4 - Stevens
5 - Naz


Seems right to me.  Maybe a brock/stevens switch but I can't argue it either way.

[FisherDynasty]

yeah just my opinion, the rankings are pretty much on point. both bport and stevens are good, they havnt played so tough to tell.

Nice to see two e8 teams and two sunyacs in the top 5.  Who would a thought Fisher would be excluded if two 8 teams were top 5 in region.  anyone want to take a shot at ext 3?

Ill go

6. Hamilton
7. Oswego State
8. Fisher

[gobombers15]

yeah just my opinion, the rankings are pretty much on point. both bport and stevens are good, they havnt played so tough to tell.

Nice to see two e8 teams and two sunyacs in the top 5.  Who would a thought Fisher would be excluded if two 8 teams were top 5 in region.  anyone want to take a shot at ext 3?

Ill go

6. Hamilton
7. Oswego State
8. Fisher

What logic would give Fisher a better ranking than Cortland? The only argument would be that Cortland doesn't have any marquee wins, but Fisher has just one. One win over Stevens, a mediocre road team, does not negate the 3.5-game difference in their records (17-5 vs 13-8), especially when you consider the fact that Cortland plays in a better conference.

6. Oswego
7. Hamilton
8. Cortland
9. St. Lawrence
10. Geneseo
11. Fisher
12. Ithaca

[buck1053]

I'd probably go with St. Lawrence ahead of Hamilton, simply because SLU is 8-2 in the Liberty League and Hamilton is 6-3. One of St. L's losses is at Hamilton (71-62) the other was to seventh-place Union (79-67). Hamilton, though it has beaten SLU in their only matchup so far this season, has league losses at Vassar (77-72 in OT), and at home to Clarkson (63-53) and RPI (68-57). Clarkson is third in the Liberty League at 6-4 and RPI is sixth at 4-5 in the LL. Vassar is tied for 4th (5-4) with Hobart.

Hamilton is always a tough place to play, apparently not for Clarkson and RPI this season, though, and although the Continentals won the head-to-head matchup, they'll have to win at St. Lawrence for me to move them ahead. St. Law is also up 2 games in the win column and 1 in the loss column ahead of Hamilton.

[bball12]

Lets be honest, that last group of rankings could really any different way.  Ithaca beat cortland and loses to SLU.  It is real tough to rank the last group.  I really dont think that Cortland is that good.  They have a good record but they are just a solid team.  No real athlete's, just tough guys.  That can only take you so far.  

[gobombers15]

Lets be honest, that last group of rankings could really any different way.  Ithaca beat cortland and loses to SLU.  It is real tough to rank the last group.  I really dont think that Cortland is that good.  They have a good record but they are just a solid team.  No real athlete's, just tough guys.  That can only take you so far.  

Ithaca probably beats SLU by 10 with Burton in the lineup. Just sayin. Fortuitous that the Larries caught IC the game after one of the top players in the region broke his nose.

[FisherDynasty]

the logic is exactly, cortland has no marquee wins. I dont think st. lawrence or cortland are as good as fisher, fisher would have a much better record if smalt was healthy all year.  Cortland or st lawrence has not shown much. Geneseo i dont think is as good either, they beat them earlier by 4 but without smalt. either way just my opinion and we will see whos better come conf tourny times and ncaa tourny.

[magicman]

scooterman,

Are you happy now? You got your wish with that #3 ranking for Brockport. I was glad to see them grab the 3 spot. Surprised a little bit that Stevens was ranked below them seeing as how they are the E8 leaders but obviously a case can be made for either team.

[gobombers15]

the logic is exactly, cortland has no marquee wins. I dont think st. lawrence or cortland are as good as fisher, fisher would have a much better record if smalt was healthy all year.  Cortland or st lawrence has not shown much. Geneseo i dont think is as good either, they beat them earlier by 4 but without smalt. either way just my opinion and we will see whos better come conf tourny times and ncaa tourny.

As I said, one win at home against Stevens wouldn't negate Cortland's significantly better record and the fact that the SUNYAC is better than the E8 this season. Cortland doesn't have a bad loss, either. You're making a statement that "Fisher is better" that is based on nothing but your own subjective belief. Comparing the resumes certainly wouldn't bear out the same conclusion. These rankings are based on the body of work to date, thus they cannot ignore Fisher's rocky start.

[FisherDynasty]

I'd be a little upset if I was plattsburgh.  one less loss then UofR and ranked behind them.  They beat them last year and have won there last 12 or 16 games this year one or the other.  Yes i think UofR is better and yes I think Platts. got a little lucky last year, however, it is what it is.

[scooterman]

Magic--Lovin' the rankings--I believe they are as accurate as can be determined--Only time will tell--anything after the first 5 is a crap shoot!!!I personally like St. Lawrence because they have played more consistant after the the first semester and Fisher because they also have been more consistent of late.

St. Lawrence only lost one key player from last year's NCAA squad and are starting to make their run.

[Jacketfan2011]

Well, lucky for UR there is more factored into the rankings than regional winning percentage.  According to the numbers:

Plattsburgh - 16-0 (1.000) + .505  + .525 = 2.029 and 2-0 against ranked teams

UR  - 16-3 (.842) + .629 + .573 = 2.044 and 7-2 against ranked teams.

The w/l against ranked teams comes from another post over in the Pool C room and I have to say I'm not sure what it represents.  Until I hear otherwise, I'll assume it refers to teams in region, though I am not sure who Plattsburgh's two wins are against.

Pretty close in any event.

[gobombers15]

FD, P-burgh won a half-court shot last year. Happy Birthday. Should play no part in this year's analysis. That said, we need a UR/Plattsburgh game this year in the NCAA's. Will settle a lot.