East Region Rankings

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Cards7580

"...2-0 against ranked teams..."

Brockport and Middlebury ?  ???

Jacketfan2011

That was my originial thought, but Middlebury is not in Plattsburgh's "region".  So if Middlebury is counted as a win, shouldn't Occidental be counted as a loss?

It all makes my head hurt......

bamm

Quote from: Jacketfan2011 on February 14, 2008, 10:51:00 AM
That was my originial thought, but Middlebury is not in Plattsburgh's "region".  So if Middlebury is counted as a win, shouldn't Occidental be counted as a loss?

It all makes my head hurt......

It's the mileage rule.  Even though they aren't in the "East" region, Middlebury is still counts as an "in-region" game because of their proximity to Plattsburgh.

Occidental is just a touch further away.

Cards7580


buck1053

Quote from: Jacketfan2011 on February 14, 2008, 08:55:35 AM
Well, lucky for UR there is more factored into the rankings than regional winning percentage.  According to the numbers:

Plattsburgh - 16-0 (1.000) + .505  + .525 = 2.029 and 2-0 against ranked teams

UR  - 16-3 (.842) + .629 + .573 = 2.044 and 7-2 against ranked teams.

The w/l against ranked teams comes from another post over in the Pool C room and I have to say I'm not sure what it represents.  Until I hear otherwise, I'll assume it refers to teams in region, though I am not sure who Plattsburgh's two wins are against.

Pretty close in any event.

Jacket, you beat me to the punch, but I wasn't even going to get that indepth with stats, so it's probably a good thing you did. I was simply going to say that UR has to play in the same league as Wash U. (currently ranked 7th in the Top 25 poll, one spot behind) and Brandeis (ranked 10th in the T25), as well as Chicago (which is in others receiving votes with 3). Plattsburgh is ranked 12th in the Top 25, and plays in the same league as Brockport (currently in others receiving votes with 1).

I know these are the East Region Rankings, and Rochester plays a lot of teams not in the region, due to their league, but looking at the caliber of the teams each plays in their league, I'd easily pick UR over Pburgh.

scooterman

Buck- I think the UAA is a very solid league year in and year out but other than the U of R what teams recently, in the last 5 years, have gone beyond the sweet 16. I think the SUNY's are very competitive with that stat. Please inform me!!!

Jacketfan2011

Well, off the top of my head Wash U was in the Final Four last year.

magicman

Quote from: scooterman on February 15, 2008, 08:28:10 AM
Buck- I think the UAA is a very solid league year in and year out but other than the U of R what teams recently, in the last 5 years, have gone beyond the sweet 16. I think the SUNY's are very competitive with that stat. Please inform me!!!

scooterman
Washington U. from the UAA went to the final four last year. They lost to Virginia Wesleyan in the semi-final game 67-65 and finished in 3rd place. Brockport went to the great eight last year, losing to Wooster in OT, in their bid to get to the finals. Didn't want you to be misinformed.

FisherDynasty

Fisher went to the Elite 8 in 2006, sweet 16 last year and in 2005.

bamm

Quote from: FisherDynasty on February 15, 2008, 09:44:33 AM
Fisher went to the Elite 8 in 2006, sweet 16 last year and in 2005.

Just when you guys thought you might have a "Fisher-free" discussion, these guys are always there to tell you something you didn't care to know. 

Quite a service you provide, FD.

FisherDynasty

Bamm if you read the few posts prior to mine it was stated that UofR as part of the UAA is solid, then Magic sticking up for Sunyac stating brockport.  I threw in Fishers success in as a pitch in for the E8 not a pitch in for Fisher. 

fisheralum91

To stick up for the E8 and give kudos where they are due!
Right Dyn?

scooterman

How about for the last 5 year comparison , Anyone got that between SUNY and UAA? Is there a big disparity? To me a final four appearance versus an elite 8 game is not a huge difference, especially an OT game is elite 8 game loss.

bamm

Quote from: FisherDynasty on February 15, 2008, 11:12:37 AM
I threw in Fishers success in as a pitch in for the E8 not a pitch in for Fisher. 

Ah, ok.  I guess I'm confused then.  Because you forgot to mention Utica's "Sweet 16" appearance. 

Just trying to give you a good natured hard time -- you guys focus so much on Fisher it can sometimes be... ah... a little much, I guess.

thebear

Quote from: FisherDynasty on February 15, 2008, 09:44:33 AM
Fisher went to the Elite 8 in 2006, sweet 16 last year and in 2005.

Yeah - the 2005 loss was to Potsdam, another SUNYAC team.
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