FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[Bucket]

My question is: what school is paying 100 percent??!! You said "free NESCAC education" in your initial post.

Uh, no, it was polbear73 that said that.

I did and I have been told that through remission and grants, the cost of a NESCAC education was covered. This came from a Bowdoin coach in the recent past.

Gotcha. I can see how additional grants/financial aid can get one close to 100.

[JEFFFAN]

Talent, talent, talent, talent ... over-rides coaching every time.  We can talk until the cows come home about game day coaching but it always comes down to the fact that as of now the talent of the haves far, far surpasses the talent of the have-nots.

I am reminded of a comment that Jim Ostendarp made to me once in the mid 1970s.  I asked him what the key was to beating Williams ... and vice versa.   In that squeaky little voice of his he said "If we (Amherst) have the 3-4 Division 1 level players, we win.   If Williams has the 3-4 Division 1 players, they win."

Pretty simple.

[polbear73]

Talent, talent, talent, talent ... over-rides coaching every time.  We can talk until the cows come home about game day coaching but it always comes down to the fact that as of now the talent of the haves far, far surpasses the talent of the have-nots.

I am reminded of a comment that Jim Ostendarp made to me once in the mid 1970s.  I asked him what the key was to beating Williams ... and vice versa.   In that squeaky little voice of his he said "If we (Amherst) have the 3-4 Division 1 level players, we win.   If Williams has the 3-4 Division 1 players, they win."

Pretty simple.

In my day, JEFFFAN, it was more like 3 future NFL players (Fugett, Scott, Swift)!

[JumbosMom]

I have my own opinions about what happened with Trinity. Bradywas under utilized and the pass game wasn't working it should of been switched up much sooner. It felt like in the beginning of the game the Refs made a couple bad calls that didn't help. All that being said, the Tufts team is strong and should not be discounted. I also remind myself they are not going to NFL they are going to graduate and have successful careers. Still I am sad that we won't see the 8-0 but 7-1 is still within reach.

[IslandTime]

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Gotcha. I can see how additional grants/financial aid can get one close to 100.
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Amherst is need blind, so dependent on the player's family financial situation, Amherst could provide 100% room, board, tuition and travel.

Amazing school....

[JEFFFAN]

Talent, talent, talent, talent ... over-rides coaching every time.  We can talk until the cows come home about game day coaching but it always comes down to the fact that as of now the talent of the haves far, far surpasses the talent of the have-nots.

I am reminded of a comment that Jim Ostendarp made to me once in the mid 1970s.  I asked him what the key was to beating Williams ... and vice versa.   In that squeaky little voice of his he said "If we (Amherst) have the 3-4 Division 1 level players, we win.   If Williams has the 3-4 Division 1 players, they win."

Pretty simple.

In my day, JEFFFAN, it was more like 3 future NFL players (Fugett, Scott, Swift)!

As described in the following article:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2010-08-16-amherst-nfl-alumni_N.htm

And that does not include Bill Swiacki, Class of 1978, who was drafted in the seventh round by the NY Football Giants but opted to play professional baseball for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

[Vandy74]

Talent, talent, talent, talent ... over-rides coaching every time.  We can talk until the cows come home about game day coaching but it always comes down to the fact that as of now the talent of the haves far, far surpasses the talent of the have-nots.

I am reminded of a comment that Jim Ostendarp made to me once in the mid 1970s.  I asked him what the key was to beating Williams ... and vice versa.   In that squeaky little voice of his he said "If we (Amherst) have the 3-4 Division 1 level players, we win.   If Williams has the 3-4 Division 1 players, they win."

Pretty simple.

In my day, JEFFFAN, it was more like 3 future NFL players (Fugett, Scott, Swift)!

As described in the following article:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2010-08-16-amherst-nfl-alumni_N.htm

And that does not include Bill Swiacki, Class of 1978, who was drafted in the seventh round by the NY Football Giants but opted to play professional baseball for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Nor does it include John Anthony (Kid or Bozo, take your pick.) Hill, a HB who played in 4 games for the 1926 NY Giants.

[amh63]

JEFFFAN...thanks for the article!  Several additional points wrt to Marylander Fugett.  When he helped run his late "half- brother's business" with his sister-in-law, they made a serious bid for the Baltimore MLB franchise.  Jean has two children that went to D1 sports.  His daughter played basketball at GWU in DC.  His. Son went to Un. of Cinn. On a football scholarship.  Made the honor roll and transferred to Amherst.  His son was bigger than Jean and told that school comes first and if his grades went down...no football.  Jean's son had a cousin playing football at Amherst...a lineman.  Met the son once in the line for breakfast.  Never got to play at Amherst due to injuries.

[NESCAC.Football.Observer]

TuftsMom.... The reason Brady was "underutilized" was that he was ineffective... or, rather, the Jumbo running game, after the first TD drive (when they successfully ran the ball), was unable to move the Trinity Front 7. 

And, my opinion only, Trinity was overplaying Brady... they decided "Brady isn't going to beat us", and they forced the QB #6 to keep the ball.   BTW... #6 might be able to run well vs Bowdoin.... but he's not going to repeat those running successes vs Trinity's quality front 7.   

My observation is that every run by QB #6 took the ball out of the hands of the reigning OPOTY....  Good game plan if one plays for Trinity....

And #6 can't throw........  Tufts staff should have replaced him starting with the last drive in the first half when Tufts needed to throw and go up tempo.

And... Mom.... We know that 99.9999999999% of these kids aren't going to the NFL.... You don't have to repeat that every post as a justification for whatever Tufts did or didn't do.  Thanks.

[PBPOP20]

TuftsMom.... The reason Brady was "underutilized" was that he was ineffective... or, rather, the Jumbo running game, after the first TD drive (when they successfully ran the ball), was unable to move the Trinity Front 7. 

And, my opinion only, Trinity was overplaying Brady... they decided "Brady isn't going to beat us", and they forced the QB #6 to keep the ball.   BTW... #6 might be able to run well vs Bowdoin.... but he's not going to repeat those running successes vs Trinity's quality front 7.   

My observation is that every run by QB #6 took the ball out of the hands of the reigning OPOTY....  Good game plan if one plays for Trinity....

And #6 can't throw........  Tufts staff should have replaced him starting with the last drive in the first half when Tufts needed to throw and go up tempo.

And... Mom.... We know that 99.9999999999% of these kids aren't going to the NFL.... You don't have to repeat that every post as a justification for whatever Tufts did or didn't do.  Thanks.

which has me repeating my earlier question... they have an apparent gunslinger on the roster w/ Dartmouth transfer DiBiaso...  that I don't believe has stepped foot on the field.  Anyone know what gives?

[NESCAC.Football.Observer]

I live in Boston... so here's DiBiasi's deal:

- Played for his dad at Everett... GREAT TEAM.  Rumor mill seems to suggest he was a by-product of the great teams on which he played.
- PG'd at (?) Exeter where he had arm (elbow/shoulder) issues that supposedly existed in high school.... Only played a few/half of the games that year.
- He had elbow surgery while a frosh at, actually before he ever got to, Dartmouth.
     - http://biggreenalertblog.blogspot.com/2013/08/dibiaso-out-this-fall.html
- Transferred to Tufts 2 years ago.
- Has never been in the mix.

I've seen Tufts use 4 QB's over that time, and JD's just not mentioned as one of their QB candidates.

[JoeBag]

TuftsMom.... The reason Brady was "underutilized" was that he was ineffective... or, rather, the Jumbo running game, after the first TD drive (when they successfully ran the ball), was unable to move the Trinity Front 7. 

And, my opinion only, Trinity was overplaying Brady... they decided "Brady isn't going to beat us", and they forced the QB #6 to keep the ball.   BTW... #6 might be able to run well vs Bowdoin.... but he's not going to repeat those running successes vs Trinity's quality front 7.   

My observation is that every run by QB #6 took the ball out of the hands of the reigning OPOTY....  Good game plan if one plays for Trinity....

And #6 can't throw........  Tufts staff should have replaced him starting with the last drive in the first half when Tufts needed to throw and go up tempo.

And... Mom.... We know that 99.9999999999% of these kids aren't going to the NFL.... You don't have to repeat that every post as a justification for whatever Tufts did or didn't do.  Thanks.

You nailed it on the head. Trinity's game plan was to force the QB to keep the ball on the read option. They also had the secondary playing man coverage so the backers could play the run more effectively.

The big question for Trinity is the running game. They like to ground and pound and they have not been as effective as they would like. The fact that they had to kick 5 FG's is concerning to the staff. They are going to need to score TD's against Midd, Amherst and Wes. From what I understand they have already made some changes to help them run the ball more effectively moving forward. It should also be noted that there starting center did not play due to injury.

I think Trin's game plan in the second half was to establish a consistent running game and control the clock. They were only marginally effective at it.

Hats off to the Jumbo's they never gave up and almost stole the game in the last 4 min.

[westcoastDad]

You mean nobody from NESCAC  is going to play in the NFL?!

[polbear73]

I can think of a placekicker from Tufts who should have a shot. 

[PolarCat]

In the recent past, only a kicker.  But some on this board claim they're not real football players, so maybe  he doesn't count.  (Even though he won a game on Sunday).