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SpringSt7

Pretty lame to give it to Boel if you ask me. Costa went into Tufts and performed excellently as mentioned. Hanging 33 on the Jumbos has nothing to do with their QB situation. Bowdoin lost.

It was Bates' first win against a team that wasn't Colby, Bowdoin, or Hamilton since 2016 against Williams. That Williams team was winless so if you wanted to go even further back it would get you to 2014, also against Williams. Aaron Kelton could really coach!

polbear73

Lame is a pretty harsh word; Boel was incredible in his first start, but I will admit the Costa should win on the basis of the win alone. It's a comparison within the week and your diatribe about past history is not relevant. Costa won the game and the win makes up for Boel's slightly better numbers

Nescacman

Quote from: polbear73 on October 10, 2021, 12:07:45 PM
Lame is a pretty harsh word; Boel was incredible in his first start, but I will admit the Costa should win on the basis of the win alone. It's a comparison within the week and your diatribe about past history is not relevant. Costa won the game and the win makes up for Boel's slightly better numbers

Not that we have a dog in the fight, but we actually would have given OPOTW to Hartford State's Fetter this week...we like Costa a ton but with all due respect to him, he did throw a few picks and you can't give it to one player just because they won a game against a real football team for the first time in a long time...as we all know, there are 21 other players on the field, many of whom contributed substantially to the win for UBates...and btw, congratulations to the Bobcats...

As far as Boel, great game but as noted they lost....you could also make the case for Polars WR Fahey who had a career day (courtesy of the Wes secondary)...we have a hard time giving players of the week to players on losing teams...which is why we always have a problem with Mike Trout winning the MVP award...much more on the Wes/Polars game later but we hate to say, we told you so on Boel...

Nescacman

Quote from: xPolarDadx on October 09, 2021, 03:53:31 PM
Bowdoin misses a 37 yd FG as time expires that would have sent it to overtime.   QB Boel definitely appears to be a huge upgrade.
Though he did throw an INT in the end zone that was costly, his vision was pretty good for the most part, and can really throw lasers.  QB Stalcup got some reps at WR.  Note that RB Eden did not play in the 2nd half for the Polar Bears.  Hopefully he is ok, as I'm pretty sure they win that game if he is in.

Eden is def the real deal...not the fastest RB we have ever seen...not the biggest RB we have ever seen....however, he has great vision and a good burst when he gets to the second level...he hits the hole well...he is also very slippery and runs very hard; you definitely are not going to bring him down with an arm tackle...a talent who we look forward to see playing again...

Credit goes to the Polars O-line who are not the biggest in the league but they are technically sound and don't need to hold their blocks for very long to allow Eden to slip through...hats off to them...

As far as the Eden injury, Eden suffered what appeared to be a bad wrist injury midway through the 2nd quarter when he made the tackle on the Boel end zone INT...he did not return...although Bowdoin moved the ball without him, their running game definitely suffered without him...we think had Eden not gotten injured, there is a likelihood, the Polars win the game (although, unfortunately, he can't kick)...

JEFFFAN

Happy that Amherst got the win but a win next week at Bowdoin is hardly a given.   The Polar Bears vs Wesleyan game yesterday was as good as it gets in the NESCAC.  Well played, fun, tight until the end.   A terrific game.   No idea how the rest of the season will play out but Bowdoin looks like a very, very different football program right now.   Kudos to the coaching staff for what looks to be a very impressive turnaround.   Amherst will be very, very fortunate to get a W up there next week.


Nescacman

Quote from: lumbercat on October 08, 2021, 07:03:29 PM
Without Diawara and a couple of other playmakers you made a ballsy bet but I admire your swagger. With #3 in the pocket they always have a chance.

Thank you Lumber...of course, we won the bet and will enjoy the fruits of our labor in a few weeks...

Had we had real "balls", we have outright picked the 'Cats to win, which we were very close to doing...there is always next week!!!

Hawk196

Hats off to Bates they played a tough game.

BUT

with under a minute to play the Bates coach calls for a pass to the endzone for a TD, what a clown. Real coaches take a knee and leave with a good win. What he did was wrong, but hey it's their "superbowl moment" so why not run up the score....SMH.

Now the last score....good for them. Tufts has no business running a hook & ladder, because they couldn't execute ANY plays all game, let alone the hook & ladder.

Freshman QB did as well as expected, but there were a couple of 3rd downs (4 & 5 yds) that I wished he would've tucked and ran. Pretty fast and had some moves, but not his fault....

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Hawk196 on October 11, 2021, 11:12:50 AM
Hats off to Bates they played a tough game.

BUT

with under a minute to play the Bates coach calls for a pass to the endzone for a TD, what a clown. Real coaches take a knee and leave with a good win. What he did was wrong, but hey it's their "superbowl moment" so why not run up the score....SMH.

Now the last score....good for them. Tufts has no business running a hook & ladder, because they couldn't execute ANY plays all game, let alone the hook & ladder.

Freshman QB did as well as expected, but there were a couple of 3rd downs (4 & 5 yds) that I wished he would've tucked and ran. Pretty fast and had some moves, but not his fault....

I have zero problem with them scoring to take it from 19-10 to 26-10. That and kneeling it out are both pretty acceptable in my mind. It's not like it was a 40-point game.
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lumbercat

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 11, 2021, 01:01:28 PM
Quote from: Hawk196 on October 11, 2021, 11:12:50 AM
Hats off to Bates they played a tough game.

BUT

with under a minute to play the Bates coach calls for a pass to the endzone for a TD, what a clown. Real coaches take a knee and leave with a good win. What he did was wrong, but hey it's their "superbowl moment" so why not run up the score....SMH.

Now the last score....good for them. Tufts has no business running a hook & ladder, because they couldn't execute ANY plays all game, let alone the hook & ladder.

Freshman QB did as well as expected, but there were a couple of 3rd downs (4 & 5 yds) that I wished he would've tucked and ran. Pretty fast and had some moves, but not his fault....

I have zero problem with them scoring to take it from 19-10 to 26-10. That and kneeling it out are both pretty acceptable in my mind. It's not like it was a 40-point game.


It was 19-10 with 36 seconds left. It was 4th and 2 with the ball around the Tufts 30. If you take a knee you hand the ball to
Tufts with 36 seconds left.

Rather than run ball or turn it over to Tufts right there the decision was made to take a shot to the end zone. If the Bates WR is covered the play is to throw the ball out of the end zone- or put it in a place where only the Bates WR has a play on it. The Bates WR was wide open so they put it away right there.

No one padding stats- that was clearly the best call. Before you hand Tufts the ball on the 30 why not take a shot at the end zone- stranger things have happened. What if they gave the ball to Tufts there and the hook and lateral works?

That call had nothing to do with stats.


lumbercat

It also was nice to see Costa get some recognition- The New England Football writers awarded him the Golden Helmet Award today.

Hawk196

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Quote from: lumbercat on October 11, 2021, 01:39:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 11, 2021, 01:01:28 PM
Quote from: Hawk196 on October 11, 2021, 11:12:50 AM
Hats off to Bates they played a tough game.

BUT

with under a minute to play the Bates coach calls for a pass to the endzone for a TD, what a clown. Real coaches take a knee and leave with a good win. What he did was wrong, but hey it's their "superbowl moment" so why not run up the score....SMH.

Now the last score....good for them. Tufts has no business running a hook & ladder, because they couldn't execute ANY plays all game, let alone the hook & ladder.

Freshman QB did as well as expected, but there were a couple of 3rd downs (4 & 5 yds) that I wished he would've tucked and ran. Pretty fast and had some moves, but not his fault....

I have zero problem with them scoring to take it from 19-10 to 26-10. That and kneeling it out are both pretty acceptable in my mind. It's not like it was a 40-point game.


It was 19-10 with 36 seconds left. It was 4th and 2 with the ball around the Tufts 30. If you take a knee you hand the ball to
Tufts with 36 seconds left.

Rather than run ball or turn it over to Tufts right there the decision was made to take a shot to the end zone. If the Bates WR is covered the play is to throw the ball out of the end zone- or put it in a place where only the Bates WR has a play on it. The Bates WR was wide open so they put it away right there.

No one padding stats- that was clearly the best call. Before you hand Tufts the ball on the 30 why not take a shot at the end zone- stranger things have happened. What if they gave the ball to Tufts there and the hook and lateral works?

That call had nothing to do with stats.

I never said padding the stats.....where did you get that.....

19-10.....it could've been 11-10. If you watched the game, you would know there is no chance in hell Tufts scores. They are terrible! Kicking game....punts yes....field goals/extra points, NO!! Go for 2 or go for the 1st down. I don't want to see another field goal/extra point for the rest of the season.....it was unbelievable. Maybe recruit a soccer player to kick next year.

They could go 0-9

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Hawk196 on October 11, 2021, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: lumbercat on October 11, 2021, 01:39:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 11, 2021, 01:01:28 PM
Quote from: Hawk196 on October 11, 2021, 11:12:50 AM
Hats off to Bates they played a tough game.

BUT

with under a minute to play the Bates coach calls for a pass to the endzone for a TD, what a clown. Real coaches take a knee and leave with a good win. What he did was wrong, but hey it's their "superbowl moment" so why not run up the score....SMH.

Now the last score....good for them. Tufts has no business running a hook & ladder, because they couldn't execute ANY plays all game, let alone the hook & ladder.

Freshman QB did as well as expected, but there were a couple of 3rd downs (4 & 5 yds) that I wished he would've tucked and ran. Pretty fast and had some moves, but not his fault....

I have zero problem with them scoring to take it from 19-10 to 26-10. That and kneeling it out are both pretty acceptable in my mind. It's not like it was a 40-point game.


It was 19-10 with 36 seconds left. It was 4th and 2 with the ball around the Tufts 30. If you take a knee you hand the ball to
Tufts with 36 seconds left.

Rather than run ball or turn it over to Tufts right there the decision was made to take a shot to the end zone. If the Bates WR is covered the play is to throw the ball out of the end zone- or put it in a place where only the Bates WR has a play on it. The Bates WR was wide open so they put it away right there.

No one padding stats- that was clearly the best call. Before you hand Tufts the ball on the 30 why not take a shot at the end zone- stranger things have happened. What if they gave the ball to Tufts there and the hook and lateral works?

That call had nothing to do with stats.

I never said padding the stats.....where did you get that.....

19-10.....it could've been 11-10. If you watched the game, you would know there is no chance in hell Tufts scores.

I mean, that's cool rhetoric and stuff but any coach who made that determination would be at best hubristic, at worst a fool.
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Quote from: Hawk196 on October 11, 2021, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: lumbercat on October 11, 2021, 01:39:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 11, 2021, 01:01:28 PM
Quote from: Hawk196 on October 11, 2021, 11:12:50 AM
Hats off to Bates they played a tough game.

BUT

with under a minute to play the Bates coach calls for a pass to the endzone for a TD, what a clown. Real coaches take a knee and leave with a good win. What he did was wrong, but hey it's their "superbowl moment" so why not run up the score....SMH.

Now the last score....good for them. Tufts has no business running a hook & ladder, because they couldn't execute ANY plays all game, let alone the hook & ladder.

Freshman QB did as well as expected, but there were a couple of 3rd downs (4 & 5 yds) that I wished he would've tucked and ran. Pretty fast and had some moves, but not his fault....

I have zero problem with them scoring to take it from 19-10 to 26-10. That and kneeling it out are both pretty acceptable in my mind. It's not like it was a 40-point game.


It was 19-10 with 36 seconds left. It was 4th and 2 with the ball around the Tufts 30. If you take a knee you hand the ball to
Tufts with 36 seconds left.

Rather than run ball or turn it over to Tufts right there the decision was made to take a shot to the end zone. If the Bates WR is covered the play is to throw the ball out of the end zone- or put it in a place where only the Bates WR has a play on it. The Bates WR was wide open so they put it away right there.

No one padding stats- that was clearly the best call. Before you hand Tufts the ball on the 30 why not take a shot at the end zone- stranger things have happened. What if they gave the ball to Tufts there and the hook and lateral works?

That call had nothing to do with stats.

I never said padding the stats.....where did you get that.....

19-10.....it could've been 11-10. If you watched the game, you would know there is no chance in hell Tufts scores. They are terrible! Kicking game....punts yes....field goals/extra points, NO!! Go for 2 or go for the 1st down. I don't want to see another field goal/extra point for the rest of the season.....it was unbelievable. Maybe recruit a soccer player to kick next year.

They could go 0-9

Why are people letting HC Civetti off the hook here. As a Head coach you make sure you have on your team a legitimate kicker. They lost the Williams game this year because of their kicking woes. It is horrible there team played there hearts out to loose like that. Not sure if people know but Tufts re ruits later than every NESCAC school. They do not make offers until late November by that time any great talent is hand picked to Ivy Leagues or the top tier NESCAC schools. Perhaps they should look within their recruiting practices and realize what they are doing simply is not working. I get they have injuries every team does. They are a better team than there record indicates and to loose on kicking is embarrassing.

amh63

Pat C....hubristic...wow.  Cannot pronounce the word.  Oh well...nice to have a proper education.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: amh63 on October 11, 2021, 04:42:09 PM
Pat C....hubristic...wow.  Cannot pronounce the word.  Oh well...nice to have a proper education.

I figured that would be an easy pickup for the NESCAC board!
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