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SpringSt7

Hawk is maybe a Tufts parent? I had no idea.

BigKat

Stop with the kicker bashing-its ridiculous. Every kicker in the nescac is a recruit and a good one. Some like Wesleyan have the luxury on having two excellent ones. Its called a battery for a reason; requires a good LS, a good holder and blocking from the line. Easy to pin blocked kicks and bad holds on the kicker but unless you were there or saw the film, you have no idea what went down. Add swirling wind to the equation too. How many kicks were missed in the NFL this weekend? And they are professionals. So ease off from the peanut gallery.

Nescacman

Quote from: Trin8-0 on October 12, 2021, 12:49:20 PM
Quote from: Nescacman on October 12, 2021, 12:32:33 PM
Says the man who takes a paycheck from Wesleyan and claims NESCAC titles for Hartford State before NESCAC even existed as a football conference...

....I've personally won more NESCAC football titles than Wesleyan... which would also be 100% true....

If you've "personally won more NESCAC football titles than Wesleyan" (100% true as per you), that would mean you matriculated in 2002 and didn't graduate until at least 2019 (which would cover YOUR 2018 title)....17 years as a "student" at Hartford State...that seems about right...

Nescacman

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Quote from: BigKat on October 12, 2021, 01:19:25 PM
Stop with the kicker bashing-its ridiculous. Every kicker in the nescac is a recruit and a good one. Some like Wesleyan have the luxury on having two excellent ones. Its called a battery for a reason; requires a good LS, a good holder and blocking from the line. Easy to pin blocked kicks and bad holds on the kicker but unless you were there or saw the film, you have no idea what went down. Add swirling wind to the equation too. How many kicks were missed in the NFL this weekend? And they are professionals. So ease off from the peanut gallery.

Kat, you beat us to the punch...Wes is very fortunate indeed to have two very talented kickers...

Kicker 1a, 2019 2nd team all-leaguer Junior Mason Von Jess was knocked out in week 1 on his first punt of the year on a cheap shot to his kicking knee...done for the year...

Kicker 1b, Sophomore Daniel Yoon, just won his second straight NESCAC special teams player of the week, leads all kickers in scoring and is fifth in the NESCAC in overall scoring...he also leads the NESCAC in punting...

Nescacman

Quote from: Charlie on October 11, 2021, 08:06:03 PM
We should also have Nescacman do a power rankings on football recruitment. Which schools had the best recruitment and which ones missed the Mark at the half way point in season. Interesting to see how teams fared for recruiment during COVID. We can see that certain schools like Middlebury could not fill voids in their lineups and which ones may have moved up a notch like Bates.

We would say that any recruiting rankings would pretty much match the standings in the NESCAC....obviously new/up and coming coaching staffs would slightly disrupt the rankings but it way too early to start beating the drum for the Polars, as an example...

BigKat

Too early to assign ( covid recruiting) rankings as the majority of starters in nescac are jrs and srs ( some 5th year) That's a better exercise next year and the following one.

Nescacman

Our take on the Wesleyan/Bowdoin game on Saturday (sorry for the delay):

1. Congratulations to the Polars for coming out and playing very hard on Saturday.
2. We were very impressed by RB Eden. As noted, he hits the hole hard and is tough to bring down. Very good vision and burst when he hits the second level. We hope his injured wrist/arm does not keep him out very long. A real passing attack from Bowdoin will only help him. Best RB we have seen this year, by far.
3. Kudos to QB Boel who threw for 400+ yards in his first NESCAC start. The kid is definitely a winner and will be someone to reckon with for the next four years. We're not sure what took so long to get him in there, but better late than never. Huge upgrade from what they had at QB previously (going back 20 years or more).
4. Not to diminish anything at all what Boel accomplished, but the Wesleyan secondary needs to go back to the drawing board. They are currently last in the league in passing defense. This was the second straight game that they allowed 300+ yards passing and several long passing plays. 4 of their last 5 games are against teams that historically throw the ball well downfield so they better get the problems fixed very quickly. We understand that their secondary has been ravaged by injury but as they say, "next man up".
5. Part of the problem with Wes' passing defense has been their pass rush which has not been as explosive as expected, particularly the last two weeks.
6. Bowdoin's defense was not much better than Wes' (Wes had almost 500 yards of total offense versus slightly over 500 for the Polars). When Bowdoin had the lead and all they had to do was stop Wes late in the 4th quarter, they couldn't do it. Until they can learn to play defense, they are not going to get into the upper echelon of the league. The all out "blitz on every play" strategy may work a few times a game but it's not going to work on every down.
7. Great job (again) by Wes kicker Daniel Yoon and congratulations on winning the NESCAC STPOTW for a second straight week. Unfortunately, the Bowdoin kicker missed a make-able kick as the clock wound down to tie the game. 
8. Wes' offense looks like they are back in synch even without some of their best playmakers who are down due to injury. In particular, QB/RB/WR David Estevez and WR Logan Tomlinson have stepped up.
9. What's the over/under on next week's Cards/Tufts match-up? 60+? 70+?
10. Wes moves to 4-0 and has won 7 straight games (12 of their last 13) going back to 2019 (longest current winning streak in the NESCAC). Of their last 7 wins, 2 wins have been in OT and 2 games were won by Wes on their last drive of the game. Some would say they have been lucky/fortunate/etc. We would say that good, well-coached, disciplined, well conditioned football teams win the close games.
11. Another excellent crowd of 4,000+ at Andrus on a beautiful fall day.   

Trin9-0

Quote from: Trin8-0 on October 12, 2021, 11:41:41 AM
In case you missed it, Jeff Devanney won his 100th game as head coach at Trinity on Saturday. He's the fastest coach to 100 wins in Trin football history. I'll have to look into whether or not it's the fastest in NESCAC history as well. Devanney has only lost 19 games in 15.5 seasons.

There are eight football coaches who have reached 100 career NESCAC victories. I've listed them below by number of games need to reach 100 victories:

1. Dick Farley, Williams: 114 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 118 games
2. Jeff Devanney, Trinity: 100 total wins. Reached 100 win in 119 games
3. E.J. Mills, Amherst: 143 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 135 games
4. Don Miller, Trinity: 174 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 136 games
5. Jim Ostendarp, Amherst: 150 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 138 games
6. Dan Jessee, Trinity: 150 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 144 games
7. Bob Ritter, Middlebury: 103 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 153 games
8. Mickey Heinecken, Middlebury: 126 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 179 games

Devanney just missed out on achieving the milestone in fewer games than the great Dick Farley. At his current pace, Devanney would need to coach 9 more seasons in order to surpass his former coach, Don Miller, for the most coaching wins in Trinity and NESCAC football history.
NESCAC CHAMPIONS: 1974, 1978, 1980, 1983, 1987, 1991, 1993, 1996, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2022, 2023
UNDEFEATED SEASONS: 1911, 1915, 1934, 1949, 1954, 1955, 1993, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2022

Hawk196

Quote from: BigKat on October 12, 2021, 01:19:25 PM
Stop with the kicker bashing-its ridiculous. Every kicker in the nescac is a recruit and a good one. Some like Wesleyan have the luxury on having two excellent ones. Its called a battery for a reason; requires a good LS, a good holder and blocking from the line. Easy to pin blocked kicks and bad holds on the kicker but unless you were there or saw the film, you have no idea what went down. Add swirling wind to the equation too. How many kicks were missed in the NFL this weekend? And they are professionals. So ease off from the peanut gallery.

I understand that, but its a pattern

Trin9-0

Quote from: Nescacman on October 12, 2021, 02:06:15 PM
If you've "personally won more NESCAC football titles than Wesleyan" (100% true as per you), that would mean you matriculated in 2002 and didn't graduate until at least 2019 (which would cover YOUR 2018 title)....17 years as a "student" at Hartford State...that seems about right...

I have no idea what you're trying to say but Wesleyan has tied for one single NESCAC title in football since 2000 (a three-way tie with Middlebury & Amherst in 2013). I played on two NESCAC championship teams at Trinity (2002 & 2003). Two is more than one.
NESCAC CHAMPIONS: 1974, 1978, 1980, 1983, 1987, 1991, 1993, 1996, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2022, 2023
UNDEFEATED SEASONS: 1911, 1915, 1934, 1949, 1954, 1955, 1993, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2022

VoodooDoc

Nescacman

Coach Hammer has always used an attacking style of defense.  His defenses ranked in the top 5 in the country at Wabash, and at Allegheny they were starting to get into the top 10 in a some defensive categories.  The Bowdoin defense is adapting to this style and with so many younger players on the field for the Polar Bears, it is a matter of learning and adjusting to this approach.  Once it starts hitting on all cylinders, if history is any guide, the Polar Bear defense, like those at Wabash and Allegheny, can develop into a rather a strong squad.

Nescacman

Quote from: VoodooDoc on October 12, 2021, 07:54:04 PM
Nescacman

Coach Hammer has always used an attacking style of defense.  His defenses ranked in the top 5 in the country at Wabash, and at Allegheny they were starting to get into the top 10 in a some defensive categories.  The Bowdoin defense is adapting to this style and with so many younger players on the field for the Polar Bears, it is a matter of learning and adjusting to this approach.  Once it starts hitting on all cylinders, if history is any guide, the Polar Bear defense, like those at Wabash and Allegheny, can develop into a rather a strong squad.

We get it and understand that...however, we're from Missouri on this one....time will tell...despite all the excitement over Boel, the Polars are still 0-4...with Boel and a healthy Eden, the offense shows promise...lot's of work to do on the defensive side of the ball, however...

Nescacman

Quote from: Trin8-0 on October 12, 2021, 03:03:40 PM
Quote from: Trin8-0 on October 12, 2021, 11:41:41 AM
In case you missed it, Jeff Devanney won his 100th game as head coach at Trinity on Saturday. He's the fastest coach to 100 wins in Trin football history. I'll have to look into whether or not it's the fastest in NESCAC history as well. Devanney has only lost 19 games in 15.5 seasons.

There are eight football coaches who have reached 100 career NESCAC victories. I've listed them below by number of games need to reach 100 victories:

1. Dick Farley, Williams: 114 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 118 games
2. Jeff Devanney, Trinity: 100 total wins. Reached 100 win in 119 games
3. E.J. Mills, Amherst: 143 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 135 games
4. Don Miller, Trinity: 174 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 136 games
5. Jim Ostendarp, Amherst: 150 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 138 games
6. Dan Jessee, Trinity: 150 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 144 games
7. Bob Ritter, Middlebury: 103 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 153 games
8. Mickey Heinecken, Middlebury: 126 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 179 games

Devanney just missed out on achieving the milestone in fewer games than the great Dick Farley. At his current pace, Devanney would need to coach 9 more seasons in order to surpass his former coach, Don Miller, for the most coaching wins in Trinity and NESCAC football history.

What's interesting to us is EJ needs just 8 more wins to surpass the legendary 'Darp...Lm63, do you think he'll do it?  ;D

Charlie

Quote from: BigKat on October 12, 2021, 01:19:25 PM
Stop with the kicker bashing-its ridiculous. Every kicker in the nescac is a recruit and a good one. Some like Wesleyan have the luxury on having two excellent ones. Its called a battery for a reason; requires a good LS, a good holder and blocking from the line. Easy to pin blocked kicks and bad holds on the kicker but unless you were there or saw the film, you have no idea what went down. Add swirling wind to the equation too. How many kicks were missed in the NFL this weekend? And they are professionals. So ease off from the peanut gallery.

I was at the Tufts Williams game and the kicker put two extra poimts into the back of his own lineman. Again as a HC if you want to win have to solidify those positions.

Charlie

Quote from: Trin8-0 on October 12, 2021, 03:03:40 PM
Quote from: Trin8-0 on October 12, 2021, 11:41:41 AM
In case you missed it, Jeff Devanney won his 100th game as head coach at Trinity on Saturday. He's the fastest coach to 100 wins in Trin football history. I'll have to look into whether or not it's the fastest in NESCAC history as well. Devanney has only lost 19 games in 15.5 seasons.

There are eight football coaches who have reached 100 career NESCAC victories. I've listed them below by number of games need to reach 100 victories:

1. Dick Farley, Williams: 114 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 118 games
2. Jeff Devanney, Trinity: 100 total wins. Reached 100 win in 119 games
3. E.J. Mills, Amherst: 143 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 135 games
4. Don Miller, Trinity: 174 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 136 games
5. Jim Ostendarp, Amherst: 150 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 138 games
6. Dan Jessee, Trinity: 150 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 144 games
7. Bob Ritter, Middlebury: 103 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 153 games
8. Mickey Heinecken, Middlebury: 126 total wins. Reached 100 wins in 179 games

Devanney just missed out on achieving the milestone in fewer games than the great Dick Farley. At his current pace, Devanney would need to coach 9 more seasons in order to surpass his former coach, Don Miller, for the most coaching wins in Trinity and NESCAC football history.


Devanney is a great Coach , excellent recruiter and a players Coach. He will reach that record faster. His staff is excellent and the school is devoted to making sure the football program has schools full support.I beleive this is what is missing at other school for a myriad of reasons.