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[Charlie]

Some good offseason banter. I'll toss in a few thoughts.

If anyone is concerned about Amherst College having a recruiting problem because Mills lost some assistants I would tell them not to worry.
Amherst and Williams are the Harvard and Yale of the little Ivies and recruits will choose those 2  schools more than schools choosing them.
It's been several years so I forget if it was Coach Ostendarp at Amherst or Farley at Williams..... when asked about the secret of effective recruiting Coach responded as follows......"I just have to make sure I'm in my office when they call"

I know its a different climate now but the prestige of an Amherst or Williams diploma is probably more prestigious today.

Up in Lewiston ex Card Matt Coyne winning a lot of friends. He's a worker and a grinder with a very clear plan for the Garnet. Stay tuned.

One earlier post said Bates was going to be depleted by a loss of seniors. Not so, they have 13 or 14 returning fifth year seniors coming back thanks to Coyne's influence since arriving on the scene. But yes, it will take time for Coyne get his recruiting arsenal on line.

Bates would have been 0-9 this year without Brendan Costa. He is a huge loss. Too bad Coyne won't have him this year.

The last memory Bates fans have of Matt Coyne before he came to town as HC this year was in 2011 or 2012. The Birds were losing to Bates by 3 with less than a minute to go in a great game. It was 4th and 2 for the Birds on the Bates 25. Bates stacked the box expecting a run off tackle..........No...... the Whale and Seidlecki call a naked bootleg for our guy Coyne and he waltzes around the left end for the TD. Birds win. A real heartbreaker for the Garnet faithful that day.

Never thought the Whale would skip tailgate food but he couldn't get out of Lewiston quick enough with that Win.

We've got a winner in Lewiston and everyone associated with Bates Football is thrilled to welcome Coach Coyne.

Wesleyan is another Institution that is loosing great coaching. Coach Coyne has left , Coach Moore has left and now there Recruiting coordinator and QB Coach has left. So no idea what is happening at Wesleyan. Coach Archer will be another loss for Wesleyan. In process finding out where he is going.Rumor is that he may be heading to Bates but not confirmed. He was instrumental in getting some of the top recruits and now just at the tip of recruiting loosing him will be big.

I am trying to get information as to why Trinity holds onto its coaches. They seem year after year to keep there Coaches. True they loose a positional Coach here or there but nothing consequential. Do the Coaches teach at the school or does Trinity offer higher pay. Hard to figure out how they maintain there staff year after year. Always thought that there ultimate plan is to be HC like Coach Blu did from Williams and move on.

[Jonny Utah]

Some good offseason banter. I'll toss in a few thoughts.

If anyone is concerned about Amherst College having a recruiting problem because Mills lost some assistants I would tell them not to worry.
Amherst and Williams are the Harvard and Yale of the little Ivies and recruits will choose those 2  schools more than schools choosing them.
It's been several years so I forget if it was Coach Ostendarp at Amherst or Farley at Williams..... when asked about the secret of effective recruiting Coach responded as follows......"I just have to make sure I'm in my office when they call"

I know its a different climate now but the prestige of an Amherst or Williams diploma is probably more prestigious today.

Up in Lewiston ex Card Matt Coyne winning a lot of friends. He's a worker and a grinder with a very clear plan for the Garnet. Stay tuned.

One earlier post said Bates was going to be depleted by a loss of seniors. Not so, they have 13 or 14 returning fifth year seniors coming back thanks to Coyne's influence since arriving on the scene. But yes, it will take time for Coyne get his recruiting arsenal on line.

Bates would have been 0-9 this year without Brendan Costa. He is a huge loss. Too bad Coyne won't have him this year.

The last memory Bates fans have of Matt Coyne before he came to town as HC this year was in 2011 or 2012. The Birds were losing to Bates by 3 with less than a minute to go in a great game. It was 4th and 2 for the Birds on the Bates 25. Bates stacked the box expecting a run off tackle..........No...... the Whale and Seidlecki call a naked bootleg for our guy Coyne and he waltzes around the left end for the TD. Birds win. A real heartbreaker for the Garnet faithful that day.

Never thought the Whale would skip tailgate food but he couldn't get out of Lewiston quick enough with that Win.

We've got a winner in Lewiston and everyone associated with Bates Football is thrilled to welcome Coach Coyne.

Wesleyan is another Institution that is loosing great coaching. Coach Coyne has left , Coach Moore has left and now there Recruiting coordinator and QB Coach has left. So no idea what is happening at Wesleyan. Coach Archer will be another loss for Wesleyan. In process finding out where he is going.Rumor is that he may be heading to Bates but not confirmed. He was instrumental in getting some of the top recruits and now just at the tip of recruiting loosing him will be big.

I am trying to get information as to why Trinity holds onto its coaches. They seem year after year to keep there Coaches. True they loose a positional Coach here or there but nothing consequential. Do the Coaches teach at the school or does Trinity offer higher pay. Hard to figure out how they maintain there staff year after year. Always thought that there ultimate plan is to be HC like Coach Blu did from Williams and move on.

You will find a lot of time at the d3 level that coaches (coordinators especially) are at the stage of their life where their families are settled, and the job is enough for them for that stage.  Many of these coordinators have gotten their experience around the country or region and don't need to keep looking to "move up" at the sacrifice of their family.  Trinity's OC and DC are in their late 40's and are probably satisfied where they are.  These guys (and head coaches as well) didn't get into d3 football to make a lot of money.  They do it because they have a passion for coaching (and winning at Trinity). 

[Jonny Utah]

JB Wells named OC at the Coast Guard Academy.......

[lumbercat]

Colby DC Chicoine to Wesleyan as DC replacement for Matt Coyne.

[Charlie]

Colby DC Chiccoine to Wesleyan as DC replacement for Matt Coyne.

Could be more rumblings out of Wesleyan rumor has it that Coach Stanley has departed Wesleyan not confirmed as of yet. Could he reunite with Coach Coyne and get DC job ?

[lumbercat]

If Stanley is bitter at being passed over for the Birds DC job in favor of a coach from Colby with significantly less experience maybe that's a possibility.

I know little about Wesleyan but it puzzles me to see a youngster like Chicoine come in as DC with Coyne's replacement seemingly already on the staff in Stanley- just speculation only. I don't know Stanley but he seems to have great credentials.

Or maybe Stanley is already gone so they brought in Chicoine. These coaching rosters on the NESCAC  football websites get updated when an assistant SID finally realizes there's actually been a coaching departure.

Dugan still showing as OC on Colby website while he's in the process of signing his fifth PG recruit at Bridgeton so who can tell actually who is coming or going day to day on these coaching staffs.

[Charlie]

If Stanley is bitter at being passed over for the Birds DC job in favor of a coach from Colby with significantly less experience maybe that's a possibility.

I know little about Wesleyan but it puzzles me to see a youngster like Chicoine come in as DC with Coyne's replacement seemingly already on the staff in Stanley- just speculation only. I don't know Stanley but he seems to have great credentials.

Or maybe Stanley is already gone so they brought in Chicoine. These coaching rosters on the NESCAC  football websites get updated when an assistant SID finally realizes there actually been a coaching departure.

Dugan still showing as OC on Colby website while he's in the process of signing his fifth PG recruit at Bridgeton so who can tell actually who is coming or going and when on these coaching staffs.

I also find this irritating that these NESCAC schools dont update their websites. Amherst still has three Coaches on their Roster and all have left.

Stanley is legit groomed a few real stud All Stars and has had some decent recruits.  He and Coyne were a great tandem. I know from talking to some Coaches he touted a DE that broke record in his state for Most sacks a UA ranked player and admission pulled the rug out from him and Coyne last minute and kid went to Trinity for 2022. So he was not happy about that and with being passed over for DC may have been last straw there.

[nescac1]

Here are the recruits I've seen as committed to Williams so far.  I am sure there must be at least a few others:

Calvin Pedatella, LB, Bellport (NY)
Cam Maguire, DE, Lawrence Academy
Campbell Pang, LB, Duxbury
Brendan Guy, TE, Springfield Central
Jon Oris, RB/DB, Avon Old Farms
Justice McGrail, WR, Central Catholic
Teddy Massingham, DB, Duxbury (baseball / football recruit)
Leslie Williams, LB, Montgomery (TX)
Rowan Stenson, OL, Garden City (NY)
Michael Sheskey, OL, Scituate
Sam Jaffe, LB/DE, Milton Academy
Anthony Scala, NT, Chaminade
Riley O'Connell, QB, Lincoln Sudberry
Jamie Mazzacco, Ath, Shore Regional (NJ)
Joe Ngnombouwo, OL/DL, Nobles
Jack Wallace, QB, Kent School

Very heavy on MA and Long Island players.  It's very hard to project without a lot of knowledge which of these are guys to watch, but it looks like a very strong class at LB with Pang, Jaffe, Williams and Pedatella; maybe one of those guys can get an early look with the Ephs graduating three starters (although the Ephs did have a ton of quality depth at LB last year, so it will be hard to move ahead of the more experienced guys).  Scala looks like a tough NT but does join a loaded position for the Ephs.  Brendan Guy seems like a guy who could see the field early at the HB/TE positions, where Justin Burke leaves a massive hole to fill.  And Mazzacco absolutely dominated his small-school NJ league, he is a super-versatile athlete in the David Estevez mold (not saying he is as talented as Estevez!), but I'm not sure what position he translates to in college, at his size I assume WR or DB.  The class seems a bit light on impact skill guys, but maybe there are a few I haven't seen ...

[Charlie]

Here are the recruits I've seen as committed to Williams so far.  I am sure there must be at least a few others:

Calvin Pedatella, LB, Bellport (NY)
Cam Maguire, DE, Lawrence Academy
Campbell Pang, LB, Duxbury
Brendan Guy, TE, Springfield Central
Jon Oris, RB/DB, Avon Old Farms
Justice McGrail, WR, Central Catholic
Teddy Massingham, DB, Duxbury (baseball / football recruit)
Leslie Williams, LB, Montgomery (TX)
Rowan Stenson, OL, Garden City (NY)
Michael Sheskey, OL, Scituate
Sam Jaffe, LB/DE, Milton Academy
Anthony Scala, NT, Chaminade
Riley O'Connell, QB, Lincoln Sudberry
Jamie Mazzacco, Ath, Shore Regional (NJ)
Joe Ngnombouwo, OL/DL, Nobles

Very heavy on MA and Long Island players.  It's very hard to project without a lot of knowledge which of these are guys to watch, but it looks like a very strong class at LB with Pang, Jaffe, Williams and Pedatella; maybe one of those guys can get an early look with the Ephs graduating three starters (although the Ephs did have a ton of quality depth at LB last year, so it will be hard to move ahead of the more experienced guys).  Scala looks like a tough NT but does join a loaded position for the Ephs.  Brendan Guy seems like a guy who could see the field early at the HB/TE positions, where Justin Burke leaves a massive hole to fill.  And Mazzacco absolutely dominated his small-school NJ league, he is a super-versatile athlete in the David Estevez mold (not saying he is as talented as Estevez!), but I'm not sure what position he translates to in college, at his size I assume WR or DB.  The class seems a bit light on impact skill guys, but maybe there are a few I haven't seen ...

I think you are exactly correct Williams went Heavy on the OL as well as the OL is slowly graduating players. I did hear Freeman is staying on for a fifth year on the OL which is positive. Huge question is going to be QB and skilled position The QB from Lincoln Sudbury is not it. Unless they have someone in their existing system who can carry them a few years this will certainly be a troubled position. Williams RB they are young and they are certainly stock piling on the both sides of the line. Having seen this maybe they are just content to grind out games and hopes of the defense being solid. They do have a player the OL/DL from Nobles who is extremely raw but injury prone. If this kid does pan out is going to be stud. I do not see them being a high octane offense at all.

[SpringSt7]

The Williams roster accurate reflects what year each player is. For example, John Freeman is listed as a sophomore and Coleston Smith is listed as a junior, but Joel Nicholas and Drew Michalek are both listed as juniors despite it being their second seasons. There isn't any sleuth work required with their eligibility.

[Charlie]

The Williams roster accurate reflects what year each player is. For example, John Freeman is listed as a sophomore and Coleston Smith is listed as a junior, but Joel Nicholas and Drew Michalek are both listed as juniors despite it being their second seasons. There isn't any sleuth work required with their eligibility.

Correct that roster was updated Freeman was suppose to be a Senior this upcoming year but chose the fifth year option so now he has two years. Some of the rosters are updated some are not. The NESCAC in their infinite wisdom just cant seem to get the Coaching and rosters correct. You either have to know the systems or background on some players.

[SpringSt7]

The Williams roster has been the same since the early fall.

[Charlie]

The Williams roster has been the same since the early fall.

What you have to understand that even though rosters say what they want students regardless have the option of opting out if they want to. Some would want to for graduation job purposes etc. So despite what the rosters say the staffs know last minute so they can plan for heir recruitment accordingly

[SpringSt7]

Opting out of what? The guys already took time away from the school so that their academic status reflects their athletic status. They can't just skip a year of school if they decide they don't want to do a 5th year.

[Charlie]

Opting out of what? The guys already took time away from the school so that their academic status reflects their athletic status. They can't just skip a year of school if they decide they don't want to do a 5th year.

When a student indicates that they want to take their fifth year they can. However like it has happened at Bowdoin several students chose to take a fifth year to play and several then opted out late because of Job offers and other reasons not to play there 5th year. The students therefore while indicating they will play for the extra year have an option of not taking it.