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westcoastnescac · March 09, 2025, 10:27:07 AM

What are we smoking up in Waterville? Julian young declaring for the draft?? Only where going pro is Microsoft office

NESCACFball24/7 · March 09, 2025, 01:40:54 PM

Quote from: westcoastnescac on March 09, 2025, 10:27:07 AMWhat are we smoking up in Waterville? Julian young declaring for the draft?? Only where going pro is Microsoft office

Im being told that him Joshua East and three other seniors have been training for U Maine's pro day. Very interesting.

What is strange to me is that East and Young both entered the portal after their junior years and neither one got anything of note which is why they ended back at Colby. Wish both of them the best but this has to be one of the stranger things I have seen.

westcoastnescac · March 09, 2025, 01:56:40 PM

Quote from: NESCACFball24/7 on March 09, 2025, 01:40:54 PM
Quote from: westcoastnescac on March 09, 2025, 10:27:07 AMWhat are we smoking up in Waterville? Julian young declaring for the draft?? Only where going pro is Microsoft office

Im being told that him Joshua East and three other seniors have been training for U Maine's pro day. Very interesting.

What is strange to me is that East and Young both entered the portal after their junior years and neither one got anything of note which is why they ended back at Colby. Wish both of them the best but this has to be one of the stranger things I have seen.

Agreed.

lumbercat · March 09, 2025, 09:40:00 PM

Pro Day invites especially in Orono Maine mean next to nothing. They may have a small pool of players for the Maine Pro Day and made a call to Coach Cosgrove to provide some additional bodies so they have enough guys to run the battery of drills.
The only CBB guy who should be considered here is Koy Price.

NESCACFball24/7 · March 10, 2025, 10:45:23 AM

Quote from: lumbercat on March 09, 2025, 09:40:00 PMPro Day invites especially in Orono Maine mean next to nothing. They may have a small pool of players for the Maine Pro Day and made a call to Coach Cosgrove to provide some additional bodies so they have enough guys to run the battery of drills.
The only CBB guy who should be considered here is Koy Price.

If koy price had done what he did this year at safety I would agree but he has essentially played defensive end the last two years for bowdoin and he doesn't exactly fit the mold for that in the NFL. One of the best to do it in the nescac, would have loved to see him try and transfer up if he had tape at his natural position

GroundandPound · March 10, 2025, 02:37:54 PM

NFL, CFL, UFL, EFL and others to impress with good pro-day numbers.
Why not encourage NESCAC players to go to any pro day they can? They have the rest of their lives to go pro at Microsoft Office and only now to try to play pro-football?

lumbercat · March 10, 2025, 11:07:26 PM

For sure, if a NESCAC kid gets a chance he should embrace it, why not.

Bantamsdad69 · March 11, 2025, 12:11:28 AM

I was looking through Amhersts roster and they seem so small compared to the rest of the players in the NESCAC. Is it a recruiting philosophy issue? I would think that Amherst could land some of these bigger players but they don't. Anyone from this board have any insight?

lumbercat · March 11, 2025, 11:25:28 AM

Its possible they are just being truthful about actual heights and weights.
Different schools handle that differently. Some will blindly carry inaccurate heights and weights from prior years. It becomes a function of the Football program and the SID staying on top of the actual metrics which change from year to year to make sure rosters are accurate.
Others will simply embellish the numbers to look bigger or smaller.

Charlie · March 11, 2025, 02:19:01 PM

Interesting take on the Podcast with Coach Devanney from Trinity. He stated that no other NESCAC sport has roster limitations and made many compelling arguments as to the reasoning for this and the fact that this is Division 3 football. The fact that the Presidents of the league feel it is necessary to single out football for this is amazing.In addition while they are potentially allowing the NESCAC to go into the playoffs they are going to be competing against schools that have potential roster limits of 125 or more.So it is clear that there is a definite discriminatory power existing in the NESCAC towards football. I am surprised that this stance on both has not been argued or even brought to a legal proceeding.

If a school like a Williams , Amherst and to a smaller extent Middlebury and Hamilton do not want larger rosters that is a an individual school decision. I find it odd that no one says anything about Tufts having the largest Lacrosse Roster in the NESCAC or some of the swimming teams having 20 to 30 players yet football always is looked at.

If you are a so called elite academic school so be it no one is asking that you sacrifice your academic standards. If you value football and want a big roster then you should be allowed to have as many players as you want.I find it odd that the Presidents and the NESCAC athletic board dictate this for football when they do not interfere with any other sports.

Let's also keep this in mind Coach Devanney pointed out that girls lacrosse last year players missed finals and graduation and that schools adjusted this for them and had a separate graduation. So this can be done very easily in football. It is clear that this discrimination will reach a court proceeding at some point and questions will have to be answered.

Scoops · March 12, 2025, 03:08:36 PM

Amherst is no longer a destination within the league. Nothing against Coach Mills and his work there, but the days of the Lord Jeff/Mammoth dominance are just over. I think a big part of that is that Amherst is no longer getting the best New England recruits at this level, and the league has embraced more of a national approach to its recruiting as a whole. And if Amherst has to stack up to a Wesleyan or Tufts or Trinity with national kids, they're not particularly as appealing to a kid from a powerhouse football state.

On top of that, they're just not evolving with the rest of the league. Most of the chatter says that Amherst and Williams are the two main programs who have held the league back from expanding to 9 games in the past, eliminating the roster limit, and accepting the NESCAC playoff bid. If I'm a kid who cares about football, what's the draw to Amherst other than their past success?

Quote from: Bantamsdad69 on March 11, 2025, 12:11:28 AMI was looking through Amhersts roster and they seem so small compared to the rest of the players in the NESCAC. Is it a recruiting philosophy issue? I would think that Amherst could land some of these bigger players but they don't. Anyone from this board have any insight?