FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[Monster]

hey when we say how bad a football team is we aren't "bashing" we're commenting, i think most of us here just call it as we see it.  some of us just see things differently.  i personally think there is a giant gap from the top to bottom academically in the nescac, some people feel there is barely one at all. i just personally think that Div 1 transfers who flunked out, wouldnt be admitted in most of the premier academic schools in the league.  i think trinity has a great football team, and i would put them up against any Div III team in the country and I would be proud of them representing the NESCAC, but i still think that some of the kids (not just football players) at that school benefited from signifcantly lower academic standards by the admissons.

[dirtybirds8-0]

The whole Kevin Kelly thing is somewhat true...I believe that his GPA during the season was below the standard for NCAA.  His grades were not reported (I believe) until after the season ended...did'nt he leave Tufts during that years spring semester?

[Roonyhufsfarts]

how did he get into Tufts in the first place? 

[TheLegend]

the kelly story is true. he was a tufts student who withdrew but continued to play football. and I believe he didnt even return for his junior spring semester.  and its a hundred percent true. the league met and suggested taking all their wins away but instead opted to have it be water under the bridge. GO JUMBO's.

steroids are used in the NESCAC, ironically though, moreso by the kids trying to get on the field, not the ones actually on the field.

and as far as I know, the kids at trinity who transfered from D-I schools didnt flunk out, they transfered for an opportunity to play football, not ride the pine.

[First6Ws]

None of the D-1 transfers I know failed out of school.  In fact, those whose grades I'm aware of excelled academically prior to their transfer.  Also, how many d-1 transfers are we talking about?  I can count the ones i know on one hand and that spans several classes

[Trin9-0]

We've already been over the whole transfer issue several times. I believe the transfer that Monster was refering to was someone specific who he knew and presumable went to Trinity before Priore was there.

Anyone else have predictions about the games... Isn't that what we should be discussing the day before some very good match-ups?

[river]

Here's an except from a Trinity release about a nationwide tv program re the Bants.  Should be interesting to see if there is dispassionate description or negative editorializing about why Trinity is so dominant in the NESCAC in football.   

"Hartford, Conn., Oct. 13 – The Trinity College football team and its current winning streak of 25 games will be the subject of a one-hour documentary, which will be broadcast nationally on College Sports Television (CSTV). The program will focus on the Trinity football game on Oct. 1 against Williams College, which the Bantams won, 34-6, to break the New England Division III win streak record of 23 victories. The show will also showcase the spirited football rivalry between the two storied small college football powers and give a behind-the-scenes look at the Trinity and Williams football programs. The documentary is scheduled to premiere on Thu., Oct. 20 at 8 p.m. and will run again at 11 p.m. that night and several times over the next week until Oct. 29."

It might be more appropriate to have put "NESCAC" or "New England" between "college"  and "football" in the phrase "small college football powers."  Just a bit of armchair editorializing.   

[Billsville]

The Kelley story is true. Tutfs was forced to offer forfiets to every team they beat after the season but no one accepted so that there wouldn't be a scandel and it could be swept under the rug. He was technically enrolled in classes but never attended one. That year Tufts was a very good team regardless of Kelly got to give them some credit.

Yes all of the nescacs are good schools but they are not on the same level. Amherst and Williams are head and shoulders above with Bowdoin getting better and better recently. The quality of the education is not what I am talking about because I would guess they are all similar but its really just about perception in the job world where there is a clear divide. I think that the equivilent would be Amherst and Williams being a Princeton while Trinity would be about a Lehigh or Bucknell. All good schools but not the same. What I've never understood is how Williams continually outrecruits Amherst. They are almost identical but Amherst is in a much better location being in the 5 college area and an hour closer to Boston?

[speedy]

Bowdoin goes to 4-0 with a solid 21-7 victory over Hamilton.

[speedy]

No undefeated season for Colby as the Mules fall to Amherst 28-9!

[cruiser]

so trinity IS mortal, only beating tufts 7-0....

[Jonny Utah]

not for nothing, but it has been raining hard in boston for two days straight and most of the last week..and I mean it has literally rained hard for 48 hours straight with no let up untill about an hour ago.....I wonder how tufts field was.

[Monster]

I guess today seperated the men from the boys.  I guess Colby isn't the team we thought they were.  Gotta give props to Amherst though.


p.s. I don't care how bad the field was. Trinity is OVERRATED! They put up 58 in the rain last week, can't use that as an excuse.

[nescacdad]

Coach Mills is going to get his hands on the tape of that Trinity/Tufts game and see what Tufts did on D.

Colby/Amherst was 9-0 Colby at half time(safety/touchdown).  Amherst O came around and their D is just really good. 

[Trin9-0]

Trinity is not overrated, last week they played on field-turf. On that field you'd never know it was raining. What happened today was they played a very good defense that played a great game at their homecoming in a sloppy field.  No need for excuses, a win is a win (26 in a row mind you) and though it may have been sloppy they still got the job done allowing the Tufts offense only 2.5 yards per play, keeping them out of the red zone the entire game.

The real story this week is Amherst ruining Colby's chance at an undefeated season. The story for next week... Trinity ruining Bowdoin's chance at an undefeated season. You're right cruiser, Trinity is mortal, but they're still the best team the NESCAC has to offer.

(Side note, Bates saved me beating Wesleyan in OT... I'm 3-2 this week 15-5 overall)