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Quote from: nescac1 on July 10, 2011, 07:00:14 AM
Rossi's utterly ridiculous commentary...

Ummm, what did Rossi say other than?

Quote from: Frank Rossi on July 10, 2011, 02:57:09 AM
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Jonny Utah

Quote from: nescac1 on July 10, 2011, 07:00:14 AM
Rossi's utterly ridiculous commentary is sort of like saying, "no one should ever go to a doctor because some doctors commit malpractice, instead, why not treat yourself?"  Are some police officers / prosecutors lazy, unethical, and/or corrupt?  Of course.  Are we most likely to hear in the media about those ones, rather than the 98 percent of cases which are handled properly, and end up with a just result?  Again, of course.  I have worked with innumerable prosecutors and law enforcement agents, both at the state or federal level.  The vast, vast majority are honest, ethical people who care about doing justice, do not want to see the wrong person convicted for a crime, and work within the parameters of the law, and oftentimes make tremendous personal sacrifices to get the job done right.  To taint everyone in law enforcement with the Duke Lacrosse / Casey Anthony brush is just as stupid as, to bring it back to the terms of this website, say that everyone in D-3 sports OBVIOUSLY is cheating after reading about the Kean scandal. 

In this particular case, the suspect is, as always, innocent until proven guilty.  That being said, based on the extensive physical evidence in the case, including all sorts of bloody items hid throughout the defendant's house, I can't imagine how any comments he may or may not make to police will affect the outcome of the case, unless this has been the most devious frame attempt of all time.  The Anthony case had some very, very unusual features: a combination of a decomposed body making finding physical evidence nearly impossible, no eyewitnesses to the crime, no admissions, and so on.  There is a reason that well over 90 percent of charges end in plea agreements, and the primary reason is, folks are only charged after there is a mountain of nearly incontrovertible evidence, in most cases that are charged.  Acquaintance rape and cold-case murder cases of the type that have dominated the news coverage lately are the exception, not the rule, and are far harder to prove than typical criminal case, by a long shot. 

We hear most about cases that go to trial because, generally, those are the weakest cases.  But most of the time, prosecutors DON'T want to egregiously overreach, and DO want to do justice, and, like in any profession, we hear about the bad eggs, the mistakes, the controversies, far more than we hear about the normal operation of our system of justice, and the innumerable good cops, prosecutors, and FBI agents busting their butts, and often risking their lives, to effectuate justice. 

I hope at some point we can back to discussing NESCAC football rather than having to defend the integrity of the entire criminal justice aparatus against someone who, frankly, has no idea what he is talking about. 

Well said.  I won't even comment on it.  But I think you meant Rev's commentary, not Rossi's.

nescac1

Woops, sorry, I did indeed mean Rev's commentary. 

mattvsmith

Quote from: nescac1 on July 10, 2011, 10:08:21 AM
Woops, sorry, I did indeed mean Rev's commentary. 

You can think it's utter ridiculous, but the fact remains that DAs get promoted and elected to higher office based on big wins, and big wins at any cost. Truth be damned.

Never talk to cops. There's a reason for the 5th amendment, and you're simply a damned fool if you think that being innocent will protect you from going to jail.

Whether this dingleberry did it or not, he needs to keep his mouth shut. If he did it, man, God have mercy on his soul, because he's one warped SOB. If he didn't do it, he needs to stay quiet so that the DA doesn't paint him as the kind of warped SOB who would do something like that.  He doesn't need to hurt himself, which is the only thing that can happen by talking to the cops.

nescac1, don't romanticize the police. There is no great personal sacrifice; certainly not anymore than other jobs. There is a huge paycheck, huger insurance benefits, and an even huger retirement. Rev's great-grandfather, grandfather, and uncle were all police in or near NYC. There were only men, not gods, nor even demi-gods. (wait! Grandpa fought in WWII--So he IS a demi-god after all!) They deserve respect, but not worship and aggrandizement. No man deserves worship, and certainly no group.

So, yes, everybody, jump on the bang the Rev's bunghole bandwagon because the Rev dare not pour a libation to the gods with a badge and a gun. Heaven forfend! Tell me how I'm un-American, how I hate your freedoms, a kook, whatever. I must be all of the above and worse. I probably roll babies in flour and eat them, too. but not until after I've skewered them on my bayonet, dirty, filthy ape-ish Hun that I am.

iamhuge

Quote from: Frank Rossi on July 06, 2011, 01:27:18 PM
Quote from: iamhuge on June 30, 2011, 01:13:49 PM
Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on June 22, 2011, 10:32:46 AM
Frank the Tank said Mini-Huge was only in one game and had one tackle last year with F&M. The Rev wonders if maybe Mini-Huge transferred to get more play time.

iamhuge, come back and fill us in. Why is Tufts going to be huge this season?

That's not quite accurate.  He missed the entire season due to injury in training camp but he's healthy now and working really hard.

Checked with the NCAA...they corrected it.  Thanks for the heads up.



You might want to speak with the school about why his name is showing up as having a tackle and participating in a game.  That could hurt his red shirt -- or force an appeal.

Jonny Utah

Rev,  no where did anyone say you or anyone had to "romanticize", or "worship" the police or anyone.  You are the one brining that up so it seems like you have some sort of personal agenda against the law based on some personal experience you may have had. 

Kind of reminds me of one of my best friends from high school who wanted to be a cop his whole life.  He went to college for criminal justice, did internships with law enforcement agencies, worked security etc.  Then he got into a drunk driving crash in Maine and hurt someone.  He couldn't get a law enforcment job anywhere and ended up becoming a fireman.  Now all he does is bash cops, law enforcemnt and anyone else saying that cops are this and that.  I'm not saying you are like that, but you are brining up points that no one mentioned and are using extreme examples of the law.

But to your other points, DAs have a lot to lose if they try to win at all costs.  Just look at your example of the Duke case.  I mean,  how many DAs do you know?  I know dozens of them and like nescac says, the majority of them are honest people, as are law enforcement agents.  Of course you are going to have bad apples in every profession.  Teachers, cops, doctors, bus drivers, contractors you name it.


I guess I should say that I do work in law enforcement and I don't want you or anyone to worship me.  I can tell you that if you didn't commit a crime and get accused of it, you are probably better off telling your side of the story. I am honest and would never want someone that did not commit a crime to be found guilty of anything.  And that goes for the thousands of other law enforeements agents I have worked with over the past 10 years. By all means get an attorney, but imagine if this kid in the Wayland case didn't commit the crime and had an alibi?  And then never told anyone?  Makes no sense.

lewdogg11

I have no problem talking with cops, unless I get the feeling that they are affiliated with 'The Skulls', then I stay quiet.


Doid23

Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on July 10, 2011, 04:40:46 PM
So, yes, everybody, jump on the bang the Rev's bunghole bandwagon
Umm, yeh, I'm going to have to go ahead and pass on that offer...

Frank Rossi

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If nothing else, the NESCACPP has now gotten a taste of what it's like on the other side of the East Region tracks, especially in the LLPP, with this off-topic banter.  Hopefully, this is the first step toward including the NESCAC teams into the football playoff system... Look, Hobart is only playing 8 games this year as a gesture toward you guys!

frank uible

Let me step out onto a limb to forecast that NESCAC football with respect to playoffs will not change certainly in the short and medium terms and probably in the long term, NESCAC believing that what was good enough for the vast majority of collegiate football 70 years ago ought to be good enough for NESCAC today.

iamhuge

Quote from: frank uible on July 12, 2011, 01:46:05 AM
Let me step out onto a limb to forecast that NESCAC football with respect to playoffs will not change certainly in the short and medium terms and probably in the long term, NESCAC believing that what was good enough for the vast majority of collegiate football 70 years ago ought to be good enough for NESCAC today.

I should be able to make a direct comparison between the NESCAC and Centennial Conference this year.

Jonny Utah

Quote from: iamhuge on July 12, 2011, 09:05:53 AM
Quote from: frank uible on July 12, 2011, 01:46:05 AM
Let me step out onto a limb to forecast that NESCAC football with respect to playoffs will not change certainly in the short and medium terms and probably in the long term, NESCAC believing that what was good enough for the vast majority of collegiate football 70 years ago ought to be good enough for NESCAC today.

I should be able to make a direct comparison between the NESCAC and Centennial Conference this year.

And how may I ask, are you going to do that?

lewdogg11

Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 12, 2011, 09:36:49 AM
Quote from: iamhuge on July 12, 2011, 09:05:53 AM
Quote from: frank uible on July 12, 2011, 01:46:05 AM
Let me step out onto a limb to forecast that NESCAC football with respect to playoffs will not change certainly in the short and medium terms and probably in the long term, NESCAC believing that what was good enough for the vast majority of collegiate football 70 years ago ought to be good enough for NESCAC today.

I should be able to make a direct comparison between the NESCAC and Centennial Conference this year.

And how may I ask, are you going to do that?

1 conference is HUUUUUUUGE!

Doid23

Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 12, 2011, 09:36:49 AM
Quote from: iamhuge on July 12, 2011, 09:05:53 AM
Quote from: frank uible on July 12, 2011, 01:46:05 AM
Let me step out onto a limb to forecast that NESCAC football with respect to playoffs will not change certainly in the short and medium terms and probably in the long term, NESCAC believing that what was good enough for the vast majority of collegiate football 70 years ago ought to be good enough for NESCAC today.

I should be able to make a direct comparison between the NESCAC and Centennial Conference this year.


And how may I ask, are you going to do that?

C'mon, it makes perfect sense. Mini-iamhuge is going to become a Jumbo, to fulfill his destiny. Personally, I think the Wabash Little Giants would have been a much better fit.

Now, instead of mini-iamhuge, or iamhuge jr., he can be iamjumbo...

Jonny Utah

Quote from: Doid23 on July 12, 2011, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on July 12, 2011, 09:36:49 AM
Quote from: iamhuge on July 12, 2011, 09:05:53 AM
Quote from: frank uible on July 12, 2011, 01:46:05 AM
Let me step out onto a limb to forecast that NESCAC football with respect to playoffs will not change certainly in the short and medium terms and probably in the long term, NESCAC believing that what was good enough for the vast majority of collegiate football 70 years ago ought to be good enough for NESCAC today.

I should be able to make a direct comparison between the NESCAC and Centennial Conference this year.


And how may I ask, are you going to do that?

C'mon, it makes perfect sense. Mini-iamhuge is going to become a Jumbo, to fulfill his destiny. Personally, I think the Wabash Little Giants would have been a much better fit.

Now, instead of mini-iamhuge, or iamhuge jr., he can be iamjumbo...

Ok now I'm confused.  Are there two mini-huges?  Is one going to Tufts?