FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Pat, it's TRINITY's website.  I posted the link.  If the Bants' parents were so thrilled to see their 4th string kids in the "JV game", don't you think TRINITY would have corrected it?

Nope -- I see you don't understand how stats and stat collection works, or how box scores are shared across a network of websites. Here's where you're the one kinda making the dumb statement but I'll just start with what seems like the obvious -- Bates home game, Bates statistical crew.

You are going to stand by this statement that the participation report tells all, even when it claims no offensive linemen played? 

[ColbyFootball]

Pat, it's TRINITY's website.  I posted the link.  If the Bants' parents were so thrilled to see their 4th string kids in the "JV game", don't you think TRINITY would have corrected it?

Nope -- I see you don't understand how stats and stat collection works, or how box scores are shared across a network of websites. Here's where you're the one kinda making the dumb statement but I'll just start with what seems like the obvious -- Bates home game, Bates statistical crew.

You are going to stand by this statement that the participation report tells all, even when it claims no offensive linemen played? 

My experience with the stats is that they are not completely accurate. As for the JV comment, I don't think that was intended as a slap at anyone. It sounded like the posters son got in the "JV game". I believe it was a nice way of saying what many call "garbage time", which isn't intended to offend either.

What I will state is that while I don't know what the Trinity coach has done at any other game I was at the Colby game and recall immediately thinking he did the right thing, the classy thing, having his QB take a knee rather than punch in an easy score. Again, I can only tell you what my first hand experience was, which is usually a lot better than all the hearsay stuff thrown around.

[PolarCat]

The use of  "Hartford State" instead of Trinity has always gone up my arse sideways but I keep my mouth shut and let the bullys do what bullys do.   But ...pointing out that calling a 51-0 game was "JV" was a "Classy Comment" (while I agree it could have been posed in a less hurtful manner) and in the next breath  delivering your cock comment (including a comment on the size "tiny, little" of said cock) is a little ironic don't you think?  Some people might even say that you are acting like a big di#k  ;-)

I get that there are so many folks here who dislike Trinity's approach that it can be hard to tell us apart.  But for the record, I've never used the "Hartford State" moniker.  That's nescacman.  And I'm also not the guy who came up with the c*ck comment 5 or 6 pages back.  I believe that was nescac1, but I may be mistaken, and not inclined to look.  (Besides, Pat would tell me I got it wrong).  I've never used that comment till now, but I think your fellow parent (or maybe one of the boys, posting from an outside IP address?) "The Flock" earned it.

As for the "big di#k": Has Mrs. PolarCat been telling stories out of school again?  Bless her heart.

[nescac1]

I am not sure what the "c*ck" comment you are talking about is, but I'm quite sure that it wasn't written by me. 

[BantamMom]

Well, only one person "came up with" Hartford State - so does that mean everyone else who uses it gets a pass?  You don't have to coin the phrase to be guilty of using it.  I normally ignore bullying because they like it so much better when they know they hit their mark - just saying that is is disrespectful (and to me it seems an awful lot like being a poor loser).

Just to clarify, there is a big difference between "being" and "having" so Mrs. Polarcat, as far as I know, doesn't kiss and tell...

[nescac1]

I never thought I'd be writing this, but can we PLEASE diverge from the topic of genitalia and start talking about the Colby coaching situation again? 

[Pat Coleman]

That's Hartford State for you...another word for Bantam is C$%K...and that's what those guys are. That's bad karma....at some point in their lives, it will come back to bite them.

The Sooner's QB may have earned the right to talk some smack, and yes, boys will be boys.  But this is just a c*ck being a c*ck.

I mean, congrats on not being the first to use it, like that's some sort of distinction.

Folks: Feel free to make sure that PolarCat is the last one to use it in that manner. Thanks.

[FanOfNescac]

Long a fan of the NESCAC boards, but only an occasional poster. Much enjoyment.

Sad to see this board recently devolve into the type of anger that populates much of the rest of social media in the good old USA, circa 2017.

[ColbyFootball]

Well, only one person "came up with" Hartford State - so does that mean everyone else who uses it gets a pass?  You don't have to coin the phrase to be guilty of using it.  I normally ignore bullying because they like it so much better when they know they hit their mark - just saying that is is disrespectful (and to me it seems an awful lot like being a poor loser).

Just to clarify, there is a big difference between "being" and "having" so Mrs. Polarcat, as far as I know, doesn't kiss and tell...

For the record, I love your style. And when the punches start flying, I'd take you covering my back anytime.

[JEFFFAN]

Long a fan of the NESCAC boards, but only an occasional poster. Much enjoyment.

Sad to see this board recently devolve into the type of anger that populates much of the rest of social media in the good old USA, circa 2017.

Hear! Hear!

[BantamMom]

Well, only one person "came up with" Hartford State - so does that mean everyone else who uses it gets a pass?  You don't have to coin the phrase to be guilty of using it.  I normally ignore bullying because they like it so much better when they know they hit their mark - just saying that is is disrespectful (and to me it seems an awful lot like being a poor loser).

Just to clarify, there is a big difference between "being" and "having" so Mrs. Polarcat, as far as I know, doesn't kiss and tell...

For the record, I love your style. And when the punches start flying, I'd take you covering my back anytime.

Thank you Colbyfootball - I would be happy to have your back - I like to think of the Nescac as one big happy family.  I was in line at Costco in Dedham 2 summers ago and a trio of big handsome boys in Colby shirts ended up behind me in line.  I had already spoken to them in the store and determined that they all played on the football team - told them my son played for Trinity etc... they were such nice polite kids.  As I was checking out I threw a giftcard in my order and when I was done turned around and offered it to them - told them to return the favor to a college kid someday once they were out - they ended up looking up my son on facebook and sending him a friend request.  I invited them to our tailgate (the game that year was in Hartford) but they never showed.  I would have loved to have fed them!

[PolarCat]

I am not sure what the "c*ck" comment you are talking about is, but I'm quite sure that it wasn't written by me.

Right you are, and my apologies for being old and forgetful.  It was nescacman who came up with the c*ck bit, and jburrell21 who added the "small" qualifier.

That's Hartford State for you...another word for Bantam is C$%K...and that's what those guys are. That's bad karma....at some point in their lives, it will come back to bite them.

I agree on two points: 1 - the score board should be immediately turned off.  2 - Not only is a male "Bantam" a rooster (aka c$%k) but a small one.  A bantam (Indonesian: Ayam kate) is a small variety of poultry, especially chickens.

And I'm sorry, mom, but I'm not sure where the "bullys" bit comes from.  There are folks here who legitimately question some aspects of the program, and those comments have been made for as long as I've been here.  Other programs don't get the same criticisms; there may be gripes about coaches, coordinators, play calling or the like, but not the questions of whether College X is playing fast and loose with Admissions, or the critiques on sportsmanship. 

And maybe The Flock is right in claiming that the last TD was a fluke play, by a backup QB who was determined to do the opposite of what the HC told him, because he never wanted to climb up the depth chart.  But the social media post of the kids gloating under the scoreboard can't be explained away.  Even Kellyanne Conway would have a problem looking at that photo, then calling the fans of other teams "bullys".

[TheFlock]

POLARCAT,

If you would like to do a little more research, then take a look at the starting line up for Trinity.  There are starters listed on the NON-Participating report.  Trust us, Trinity completely cleared the bench.  If you actually watched the game, then you would know this information.  Trinity scored 6 points in the second half.  If the starters were still playing, then the score would have been much worse.  Now who's comment is Dumazz? 

The phrase "JV Game" was actually coined by a coach from a different Maine school, after Trinity cleared the bench at halftime last year.  No disrespect was meant to Bates.  We are simply stating the young players were given the chance to perform in a game in front of their friends and family. We have one of our boys who actually is seeing more time on special teams because he did well in the Bates game.  Coach Devanney does a tremendous job keeping young players involved and engaged.

For the record, Trinity's starting TE was a non rostered player for 2 years.  He was a QB who stayed with the team and is now an integral part of the offense.  As for "cutting" recruited players, almost every player who does not make the roster was told this information when being recruited.  On occasion a recruited player may not make the roster because he didn't work hard and came into preseason out of shape.  Coach Devanney does an excellent job.  Do you know he is in the top 5 in wins among active HC's in all divisions? 

[lumbercat]

Hello,

We have been sitting idly talking about these boards at our tailgates.  The reading is quite interesting, not always factual.  Since Polarcat mentions the word dillusional, it is a perfect segue for us to chime in.  The statements being made about Coach Devanney and his program are extremely off base.  The Bates situation is not at all what it seems.  Trinity cleared their bench BEFORE the second half.  The final 30 minutes of football were a perfect time for Trinity to play a "JV Game" allowing some of our sons to play in a game and run the schemes they have been practicing for months, some of our kids, for years.  Lumbercat, we believe, is the one who said the final play of the game was a pass into the endzone for a touchdown.  This is not at all true.  We have brought this question up to some members of the coaching staff.  When you review the play, any football fan who has been watching NESCAC football should know the play was a run play.  The 4th string QB admittedly did not make the right read and threw a SMOKE SCREEN to the WR instead of handing the ball to the RB.  The WR who is a junior made the STARTNG Bates OLB miss and ultimately there was a score.  We feel the young players deserve to at least run the plays they have been working on.  If your son never plays, then wouldn't you want him to at least run a play instead of taking a knee.  We also know Coach Harriman was contacted to be sure there were no hard feelings. 

Coach Devanney has taken a knee every time he has a lead.  However, we feel if teams are going to keep blitzing the 4th stringers with their starters, then maybe he should've instructed his OT to throw the ball in the endzone.  Quite frankly, whoever stated the pass  into the endzone to run up the score is "Dillusional".  Then again, how would you know what an RPO actually looks like when your offense is an archaic, boring mess.

The Flock has spoken

Flock-

That's a great spin. Are you really going to portray that as a broken play? That's a good one. It was a pass play, the last play of the game. According to a Trinity parent who posted on this board Devanney rationalized it in his talk on the field after the game saying they did it because Bates didn't stop
stop blitzing despite the big Trinity lead.

Typically when a team has the ball in the opponents territory with less than a minute or two left and 
45-0 lead instructions typically are to keep the ball on the ground. That didn't happen here- Jeff wanted 50.

[BantamMom]

And I'm sorry, mom, but I'm not sure where the "bullys" bit comes from.  There are folks here who legitimately question some aspects of the program, and those comments have been made for as long as I've been here.  Other programs don't get the same criticisms; there may be gripes about coaches, coordinators, play calling or the like, but not the questions of whether College X is playing fast and loose with Admissions, or the critiques on sportsmanship. 

The bullys are everyone who calls Trinity Hartford State - it's a great school even if it's not as good as where your jr. goes -
we all know for a fact that your children are way smahtah and way more qualified to attend a NESCAC than ours - ours barely got out of high school - but you do not need to CONSTANTLY rub our noses in how much more elite you are!

But the social media post of the kids gloating under the scoreboard can't be explained away.  Even Kellyanne Conway would have a problem looking at that photo, then calling the fans of other teams "bullys".

I never called the fans of other teams bullys - I called the people on this board who refuse to call the school by it's proper name (because it somehow makes them feel better about losing?)  bullys
- AND There is no excuse for that photo- being a poor winner is worse in my book than being a poor loser - I don't know them, but as a former Bantam mom I am embarrassed by it an apologize for them