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[nescac1]

News on an Amherst QB commit:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/high_school/2017/10/north_attleboro_qb_chad_peterson_a_veteran_success_story

He apparently picked Amherst over D1 Bryant. 

[Hamiltonian]

Hamilton obviously is a huge game since a win would lock down a winning season for the Ephs, which frankly would have been inconceivable in August.  But Hamilton seems to be playing better and that looks now like a toss-up game, with the Ephs a slight favorite playing at home.   

agree 100 percent.  excellent analysis.

[Hamiltonian]

News on an Amherst QB commit:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/high_school/2017/10/north_attleboro_qb_chad_peterson_a_veteran_success_story

He apparently picked Amherst over D1 Bryant.

again to my earlier point:  there can only be a few NESCAC teams likely to snare a serious D1 prospect because he or his parents want that school and that name for reasons having little to do with football.

[Pat Coleman]

Bryant and serious D-I don't really belong in the same sentence. This is an FCS team that is right around .500 and is not in an FCS power conference. D-I has a wide range.

[Hamiltonian]

fair enough.

[middhoops]

Oh no, back to the D1 vs D3 discussion.  Regardless the sport, the question that must be asked before seriously saying ".....he/she turned down D1 ______......" is, Was it a scholarship offer or an invited walk-on?

[nescac1]

In this case, I believe the QB recruit had a scholarship offer at Bryant.  Now, as Pat mentioned, there is D1 and then there is DIVISION I.  But still, earning a full athletic ride anywhere in D1 isn't easy.  Amherst really has quite a stable of young QBs between Eberth, this incoming kid, a current frosh who I think was well-regarded, and sophomore transfer Glazier, who I seem to recall at least one poster here raving about when it was announced he was headed to Amherst (although he's no better than fourth on the current depth chart!).  Plus Morales still has another year.  It will be interested to see how all of that shakes out in future years ... Amherst seems to bring in a high volume of notable QB recruits, a few of whom typically end up at other positions as juniors / seniors. 

[nescac1]

Oh, and speaking of QBs, here is a trivia question: when was the last time that an all-NESCAC team did NOT feature a Middlebury QB on the 1st or 2nd team? 

Here is a hint: counting this year's anticipated selection, every single Midd QB to be named all-league during that streak made at LEAST two all-NESCAC squads.

Trivia question, part two, and this one is REALLY tough: what was the last year no Trinity running back (including those listed at either TB or FB) was on an all-NESCAC squad? 

In each case, is it the system, the talent, or both?  I think the answer has to be "both." 

[Grabowski]

Was good to see the Mammoths formerly known as the Lord Jeffs establish our rushing attack .......

If your idea of "establishing" is:
NET YARDS RUSHING          150
Rushing Attempts               38
Average gain per rush          3.9

And if you remove Hasani's 51 yard TD carry..... the above becomes:
NET YARDS RUSHING            99
Rushing Attempts                37
Average gain per rush          2.67

individual rushing stats are:
                        Att   Yards  Ave  Long  TD
Ollie Eberth   13   56   4.3   26   1
Hasani Figueroa   10   44   4.4   51   1
Jack Hickey   11   37   3.4   24   1
Bo Berluti            1   14   14.0   14   0
Reece Foy            3   -1   -0.3   3   0

And if you took away the 3 long plays:
NET YARDS RUSHING            49
Rushing Attempts                35
Average gain per rush          1.40

The above ain't worrying Tufts, Trinity, or Williams..........
Please remove the exaggeration in your descriptions... the inaccuracies have gotten old.

When you put it next to what Wes did (68 yards on 38 attempts) the Small Elite Liberal Arts College in Central MA DID establish their ground attack.  And really, they sorta did establish at least a necessary respect for the ground game--lots of 2nd and 6 for the purple, whereas the Cards were looking at 2nd and 9 or 10 most of the times they tried to run on first.  Another thing...I'm not 100% certain of this but aren't sacks counted as lost rushing yards in college ball?  So you also need to add back three sacks for 34 yards to their rushing total.  Wes has not run the ball well this year, IMO it's the primary reason they are 1-2 against the top tier.  FWIW I'd make the Mamms close to a pickem or slight favorite over Tufts, and a TD dog to Trinity (blind guess) on a neutral field.

[ColbyFootball]

Oh, and speaking of QBs, here is a trivia question: when was the last time that an all-NESCAC team did NOT feature a Middlebury QB on the 1st or 2nd team? 

Here is a hint: counting this year's anticipated selection, every single Midd QB to be named all-league during that streak made at LEAST two all-NESCAC squads.

Trivia question, part two, and this one is REALLY tough: what was the last year no Trinity running back (including those listed at either TB or FB) was on an all-NESCAC squad? 

In each case, is it the system, the talent, or both?  I think the answer has to be "both."

I have always believed, and still do, that Middlebury's system drives the QB numbers. I've seen many QB's at the HS and college level have numbers far greater than their ability because of the system the play in. That doesn't mean Middlebury hasn't had some terrific QBs. So please don't misunderstand. They have.

[Trin9-0]

Oh, and speaking of QBs, here is a trivia question: when was the last time that an all-NESCAC team did NOT feature a Middlebury QB on the 1st or 2nd team? 

Here is a hint: counting this year's anticipated selection, every single Midd QB to be named all-league during that streak made at LEAST two all-NESCAC squads.

Trivia question, part two, and this one is REALLY tough: what was the last year no Trinity running back (including those listed at either TB or FB) was on an all-NESCAC squad? 

In each case, is it the system, the talent, or both?  I think the answer has to be "both."

I only know the Trinity answer because I was still playing for the Bantams at the time; but I'm pretty sure 2001 was the last year Trinity didn't have any RB/FB representation on the NESCAC 1st or 2nd teams. That's pretty incredible and I'd tend to agree that it's likely a combination of talent and system.

[nescac1]

Right-o on Trinity.  I almost couldn't believe it looking back ... (for Middlebury, it's 2007, which is likewise amazing considering there are only 2-3 QBs on each all-NESCAC squad).   And Trinity's streak is sure to continue this year, and into 2018 so long as Chipouras stays healthy. 

[Vandy74]

(for Middlebury, it's 2007, which is likewise amazing considering there are only 2-3 QBs on each all-NESCAC squad).   

That was a 7-1 season with Don McKillop at QB as a freshman.  The Panthers averaged more yards per game rushing than passing, 173 and 161 respectively.  McKillop led teams went 5-3 twice and 4-4 once over the rest of his Middlebury career.  McKillop never beat Williams.

[westcoastDad]

Mr Nescac Football Observer/Resident Nescac Analyst


Sounds like you got it in for me lol?  I guess I better check with the General to make sure everything I post is to the letter of the law. 

Let's be clear, I said, "was good to see the Mammoths ESTABLISH our rushing attack".  I'm not sure why I get the feeling you feel that is some type of bravado that Amherst DOMINATED on the ground.  Maybe your panties are in a bunch about something else?  But, ESTABLISH is appropriate.  Sure, Bates (who does little else but run the ball) and Tufts both gained over 200+ yards against Wesleyan.  But, their other 3 games (Middlebury, Hamilton and Colby) combined for 135 yards against the Cardinals on 82 carries.  That's what?  1.6 yards a carry?  3.9 yards on a hot day in the trenches is not too shabby.

THE TEAMS THAT RAN THE BALL 40 TIMES AGAINST WESLEYAN SEEMED TO BE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL  IN GETTING THE BALL INTO THE END ZONE.

SINCE YOU'RE THE ULITMATE STUDENT OF THE GAME.......YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT MANTRA OF GREAT RUNNING GAMES GETTING STRONGER AS THE GAME ROLLS ALONG.  Well, good ones do as well. 

That last big gain of 51 yards by Hasan Figueroa lived up to that wouldn't you say Mr. Know Everything? The coaches stuck with their thought that they could win in the trenches versus via the air.  Clearly, Amherst has shown a STRONGER running attack this 2017 campaign because the pass has seen at least 3 INT's for TD's for the opponent.

So, yeh knucklehead, it was very good to WITNESS the Mammoths establish a solid running game.  One that was good enough to provide the game winner against a stingy defense.

As for your predictions for the last 3 games........it sounds like you're saying the Mammoths will finish the season with 3 L's.


Time will tell



[/b][/i]Was good to see the Mammoths formerly known as the Lord Jeffs establish our rushing attack .......

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If your idea of "establishing" is:

NET YARDS RUSHING          150
Rushing Attempts               38
Average gain per rush          3.9

And if you remove Hasani's 51 yard TD carry..... the above becomes:

NET YARDS RUSHING            99
Rushing Attempts                37
Average gain per rush          2.67

individual rushing stats are:

                        Att   Yards  Ave  Long  TD
Ollie Eberth   13   56   4.3   26   1
Hasani Figueroa   10   44   4.4   51   1
Jack Hickey   11   37   3.4   24   1
Bo Berluti            1   14   14.0   14   0
Reece Foy            3   -1   -0.3   3   0

And if you took away the 3 long plays:

NET YARDS RUSHING            49
Rushing Attempts                35
Average gain per rush          1.40

The above ain't worrying Tufts, Trinity, or Williams..........

Please remove the exaggeration in your descriptions... the inaccuracies have gotten old.
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[FanOfNescac]

Parent commenters are the best. I wonder if they go back, months or years after their son's career is over, and re-evaluate their posts from a more distant perspective.